Map Thread XVIII

Discussion in 'Alternate History Maps and Graphics' started by FesteringSpore, Jul 28, 2018.

  1. Nyvis Well-Known Member

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    That sounds like something they'd do once they run out of black slaves, honestly. Start with the Irish and work up...
     
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  2. HeX Self-Proclaimed Disney Expert

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    Yeah, but if that starts to happen, then the Confederacy will definitely fall apart. One of the only reasons the poor white farmers of the South (the majority) sided with the rich planter class (the minority) was because they were told that, even though their lives were garbage and they were living in literal shacks, they were held as 'better' than blacks. If you start enslaving the Irish, the yeomen of the South are going to revolt immediately, because that one last vestige of self-worth will be taken away from them and they'll know it's only a matter of time before the planters come stomping in to cart them off to the plantations.
     
  3. Gokbay Well-Known Member, apparently huh...

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    Have the idea of a mini-timeline featuring Prussian Napoleonic Wars with a King of Prussia as Napoleon in basically the same time that includes French Revolution being crushed by the first coalition and the actual Napoleon dying in battle. The aforementioned king of Prussia comes from a minor undetermined pod in the 1700s that changes basically nothing other than butterflying a few European monarchs (said Prussian included) in or out and leading the the French Republic being crushed. Very early 1800s sees a Austro-Prussian war where Austria loses their Polish partition, Saxony loses the otl land they lost to Prussia and Bavaria annexing Salzburg and Tyrol. Austrian Emperor of the HRE also abdicates and Prussian King is elected emperor (by their own and Bavarian votes+ treaty forcing Austria (as Electorate of Bohemia) and Saxony to vote for him). The League of Berlin is created between Bavaria, Prussia and Prussian vassals in eastern Germany (Saxony, Mecklenburg, Thueringian states). Few years later there is the War of the First Coalition or the German War of Unification. Holy German Empire is created. Netherlands (independent and Austrian) is annexed by Prussia, so is Switzerland. Savoy annexes Milan. Bavaria annexes Austria proper and W├╝rttemberg. Denmark secedes Norway to Sweden, Schlieswig to Prussia. Britain seizes all Dutch colonies but East Indies (independent under the VOC) and Danish-Norwegian overseas territories (Iceland, Greenland, Faroes). Russia also surrenders their partition that was under the Crown of Poland (and not Lithuania). Latin American revolutions happen on schedule.

    That is pretty much all I have outline for now and have maps for. But on top of this there are some more ideas.
    1. War of the Holy League (2nd Coalition) Russia, Hungary-Bohemia and France vs Prussia, Sweden-Norway, Ottomans and maybe Savoy. Prussia "liberates" Lithuania (with a Hohenzollern Grand Duke) and Bohemia (Hohenzollern King). Bohemia joins the HGE (a Kaiserreich like deal). Ottomans create Transylvania, Banat and Croatia as vassals. Hungarian remnant stays under Habsburgs as a German puppet. Sweden gets Estonia.
    3. War of the 3rd Coalition: Unsure but include Britain. Maybe the partial unification of Italy. If they haven't already Ottomans completely get rid of the Jannisaries and create a European like Army.

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    Since this is the map thread here is the Map of the Holy German Empire at its creation. Just after the end of the German War of Unification or the War of the First Coalition and before the War of the Holy League or the War of the Second Coalition. Kingdom of Bavaria, Swabia and Austria is colored separately because it has more freedom than other minor states and is the second most influential after Prussia.
     
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  4. Nyvis Well-Known Member

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    Nah, you tell the non Irish yeomen it's just the Irish because they're dirty papists. And give them some of the new slaves to keep them complicit. And next time you need more, you make up more stringent purity criteria.
     
  5. HeX Self-Proclaimed Disney Expert

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    Somehow I doubt everyone in the South would be stupid enough to fall for that. By the 1860s and beyond, it'd pretty much be impossible to justify white-on-white slavery. White-on-black slavery can be justified in that time because everyone of non-European descent had come to be seen as less intelligent than Europeans. So, sure, the South may not like immigrants, especially Irishmen, and I think the populace would have been fine putting them in slavelike conditions, but no matter what their religion or national origin is, no white man in the South would stand for another white man being inspected like an animal and sold down the Mississippi. In fact, doing that might make the yeomen more sympathetic to the situation African slaves were in, if the planters decided to do the same to them.

    Just my two cents, good day to you sir.
     
  6. Daeres Well-Known Member

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    And here we've got another Crumpleverse map, this time for somewhere pretty weird.

    Chrome is in orbit around Fargelaus, and Fargelaus is one of the three Hueless Stars, which actively strip the colour from all that their light touches. This effect can be blocked with special shielding technology but it's extremely specialised and expensive (you could probably achieve the same effect accidentally with 28th century military shielding technology but that's like trying to use nanites as sun tan lotion, just a tad overkill). Nonetheless, Chrome is a habitable planet, and somebody was bound to settle it. The Angevins mentioned as its primary settler population and core culture are originally a Franco-English New Culture from Asterion. Most Angevins remain on Asterion or on other, more 'normal' migration targets, it was only ever a small minority that formed the Chrome settlement enterprise. Nonetheless, almost everybody Angevin or adjacent respects their cousins that managed to make a go out of living full time on Chrome.

    Chrome in the modern era is something of a political interstellar oddity. The planet took over the old UNSA defence/observation post (it's the square on the system map, lying between the orbits of Fargelaus IV-V) during the Interregnum when that organisation fell, and have turned it into a fairly cutting edge bastion with lots of efficient automated defences linked to a wider system defence net. Nothing short of a dedicated siege fleet is going to take it on and have any chance of success. Chrome is not part of a wider interstellar alliance, as many (though but no means all) modern colonies are, nor is it reliant on ISA for its system defense as most colonies not part of a wider alliance tend to be. It's a combination of the system's comprehensive defenses and also the psychological weirdness of hueless light for populations not used to it. Sure, the Fargelaus system has mineral wealth, but there are plenty of not-weird systems with mineral wealth that wouldn't require prohibitively large fleets to seize.

    The graphic itself goes into more detail about some of Chrome's culture. As usual, if there's any other questions about context I'm happy to answer.

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  7. Sailor Haumea Well-Known Member

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    The Balkans, balkanized.
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  8. Analytical Engine Monarchist Collectivist Federalist

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    Yes, nothing could possibly go wrong.
     
  9. Pikers3 No republic please, im British

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    Great map and interesting concept!

    But what have you done with Hillingdon, Ealing and Brent?!
     
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  10. Sailor Haumea Well-Known Member

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    What if we make it a federation? We could call it the Federation of South Slavs or something.
     
  11. Gokbay Well-Known Member, apparently huh...

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    I think Greeks and Albanians might take offense at that.
     
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  12. DracoLazarus Master of Punkind

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    What they need is a dynasty to unite them !
    Let's fire the random name generator... the... Osmanoglu ?
     
  13. Ephraim Ben Raphael Super Writer Extraordinaire

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    This is beautiful (no pun intended) and refer to both the map and the idea behind it. I must say; an asterisk over "Habitable" is not something I would want to see when picking a planet to settle on.

    What is so destructive about hueless light anyway? OTL color torture requires the absence of all color including black and there are plenty of perfectly healthy persons with color blindness.
     
  14. Luxembourg Is it Luxembourgish or Luxembourger?

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    A random ASB map that I came up with in my spare time. My most detailed one yet.
     
  15. Aqua817 The Means of Production

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    The end of the world came, not with a bang, but with a whimper.

    Their name in their native tongue was utterly unpronounceable to us humans, a cackling of cartilage that was unreplicable to us humans. The names we gave them, however, were as diverse as the stars in the sky. The Others. The Interloopers. The Skymen. I personally preferred the Visitors.

    The Visitors were not evil. They did not conquer us to eat us, or to implant within us their young, or anything like that. Their biological functions, while stable at STP that betrayed that their homeworld was very similar to our own, were utterly incomparable to us humans. They also did not torture us for fun. When one of their hunters burned through a small school in New Zealand several years ago, there were actual reparations made. However, that did not change one fact: that we were in their way.

    Though, perhaps I should start at the beginning. I still remember the warm, muggy night that their ships first lit up our skies. The air force was scrambled, a curfew on pain of death was enforced across most of the world. However, they did not invade. Their ship captain, using a broken algorithmic translator, explained that they were searching for new worlds and wanted to open peaceful contact with humanity. Their first gifts to us were truly without strings. Poverty and disease were eliminated within two weeks. The human life expectancy jumped to 120 without implants. They became our heroes.

    As time went on, they began to offer even greater gifts to those who would be fine with giving something up in return. The government of Cote d'Ivore was usurped by a military dictator who began destroying Visitor technology throughout his demesne. Hundreds died in the fighting. The Visitors secretly came to the government of Burkina Fasho with a proposition: They would allow them to have vast secrets beyond human imagining if the country allowed the Visitors to set up an occupation zone in the African nation, for protecting the people of course. Naturally, they agreed. The first Visitor soldiers landed on earth, and within an hour, the dictator's head was on a spike outside the presidential palace. The first Visitor boots on the ground. Burkina Fasho began to absolutely glow with the new Alien tech that was allowed into the nation. And as time went on, more and more nations grew deeply jealous.

    World War III was over within a few weeks. Nations across the globe, hoping to gain the favor of the Visitors, began fighting each other, offering the land of their neighbors in exchange for Visitor secrets to the mysteries of the Universe. The Visitor armies were absolutely beyond anything the Earth could achieve. They conquered but did not kill. Industry was commandeered but the people were not abandoned. Those who truly refused to surrender to Visitor control were deported off world, to vast dyson spheres packed densely with myriad alien species. They gained more and more goodwill as they expanded their reach on earth. By 2030, Africa was, in one way or another, essentially owned by the Visitors.

    But then, the truth was revealed. A group of terrorists (who, some were say, were aided by a rogue Visitor who was against the policies of their homeworld) ended up intercepting a message on the vast quantum computer that the Visitors used to communicate with each other. The message was replayed on every major news outlet on earth. Ultimately, the Visitors were not here to harvest everything, they wanted the Earth herself. The cosmos had only a meager few worlds where the Visitors, or really any other species, could survive without either highly expensive terraforming or vast engineering projects that even the Visitors were not particularly fond of embarking on.

    On one hand, many humans were fine with this. The Visitors had ended things such as poverty, yes, but the wealthy gap between poor and rich has never been greater. The Visitors chose groups that were historically marginalized and mistrusted throughout the world to enforce their will. Not to mention, the Visitors chose to settle in lands that were only marginally suitable for human habitation before making them bloom. Visitors also established control of Mars and Venus, where they began turning the worlds into gardens. The Visitors were not downright genocidal, either. A wealthy human could even afford to send their children to get cutting edge implants or knowledge in the grand Homeworld of the Visitors, or move to Mars or another world. And even the poor were mostly content with their lives. Yet, many of us were disgusted at the concept of the Visitors stealing the very earth away from us.

    This all came to a head in 2055. Radical elements within the American and Chinese government stole nuclear codes, and launched a full nuclear assault on the Visitors. While the Visitor ships were, naturally, rather impervious to such perfidious and barbaric weapons as nuclear weapons, the Visitor cities were not as lucky. For a time, it seemed as if the Visitors were on the retreat.

    Until the Ironfall. Visitor armies designed for use against interstellar powers that were on parity with the Visitors, and not the primitives living off of scraps that we were to them, dropped across the world. The United States government was utterly destroyed, and vast portions of the American population was off-worlded. The Hungarians, who played an instrumental part in the attack on the Visitors, were given the choice to be either deported to Finland or off-worlded while Hungary itself was turned into a Visitor colony. China was invaded, but between the surprising effectiveness of several Chinese projects and a massive manpower advantage, vast parts of the Chinese countryside remains in PLA control.

    On this day, May 31, 2058, the order would come in that, except for certain vital religious and cultural sites, Humanity was to be off-worlded to a distant space station tailor-made for Humanity. And in the end, most of us wouldn't even resist.

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    I can't tell what's more horrifying: aliens invading and conquering Earth, or the fact that most of humanity doesn't seem to care.
     
  18. Minchandre Well-Known Member

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    What were Israel, South Africa, and Eritrea's crimes?
     
  19. 245 Well-Known Member

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    so, who lives on earth now?
     
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  20. decker Well-Known Member

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    Very nice.
    If you want to put even more energy into it, please give province names and capitals.
    You can also specify the leader name and the polictical party in charge.

    And religions too...