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Redid a map from the beginning of my timeline.

The Viceroyalty of New Spain in 1810, on the eve of the Grito de Dolores.

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1. Intendancy of México
2. Intendancy of Guanajuato
3. Intendancy of Valladolid
4. Intendancy of Guadalajara
5. Intendancy of Zacatecas
6. Intendancy of San Luis Potosí
7. Intendancy of Veracruz
8. Government of Tlaxcala
9. Intendancy of Puebla
10. Intendancy of Oaxaca
11. Intendancy of Mérida
12. Intendancy of Nuevo Santander
13. Intendancy of Nuevo León
14. Province of Tejas
15. Province of Coahuila
16. Intendancy of Durango
17. Intendancy of Sonora
18. Government of Nuevo México
19. Province of Alta California
20. Province of Baja California
21. Intendancy of Chiapas
22. Intendancy of Guatemala
23. Intendancy of San Salvador
24. Intendancy of Comayagua
25. Intendancy of León
26. Province of Costa Rica
27. Province of Florida
28. Intendancy of Habana
29. Intendancy of Puerto Príncipe (incl. Santo Domingo)
30. Intendancy of Santiago de Cuba
31. Intendancy of Puerto Rico
 
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In the defense of people who post WIPs in the main thread: a lot of people don't have the time to finish their maps, but nevertheless have brilliant ideas that they want to share. Confining their maps to a WIP thread just because it messies up the main map thread -a thread which isn't actually all that active in the first place- is a bit mean in my honest opinion, especially considering the WIP thread doesn't receive all that much traffic beyond the people posting their work there.

I generally agree, but I think the main objection is not to WIPs, but posting multiple iterations of the same WIP without changing all that much between postings.
 
i'll repost my 1984+ map mainly to just get this thread into my notifications. naturally, any and all questions, comments, and constructive criticism are much appreciated--it's the only way i'll know if i overlooked anything

main points:
  • the whole idea is that it's an homage to Nineteen Eighty-Four and dystopian fiction in general, with most/all of the countries present and regions within them taking some cues from such media
  • the general POD is set in the late 1940s and deals with both Israel and the United Nations not coming to be. shit hits the fan almost immediately for reasons i have yet to properly devise but almost the entire world comes under different authoritarian regimes which divide themselves into a few particular power blocs based on the superstates from Nineteen Eighty-Four, but remarkably another world war hasn't broken out yet even though there are skirmishes all over the place
    • "Oceania" is the most divided, being comprised mostly of former colonial states and a few others with the North American Union (formerly the United States) as the leading power among them--they form the Oceanic (or Oceanian) Treaty for International Security, or OTIS, as TTL's version of NATO
    • "Eurasia" is comprised mainly of the Soviet Union, which has expanded to include all of the former Eastern Bloc with the remaining European states corralled into a new Western Bloc of pro-communist client states; their main ally outside Europe is Cuba, which is protected from American imperialism by the threat of mutually-assured destruction, but they also have forward bases in Suriname and French Guiana thanks to their European puppets
    • "Eastasia" is the smallest power, and in development it's the one i had the hardest time developing anything for because i was conflicted over how to justify their being a superpower compared to the rest--i eventually settled on them having a war machine powerful enough to take most of Central Asia and now they're in a stalemate with the Russians, with both of them having the ability to get very close to the other's capital
    • finally, the disputed zone from the novel has been reimagined as a superpower of its own, which is actually the most powerful nation in the world and the last significant bastion of democratic ideals (there are some others littered across the map but they're all pretty small); this country is officially known as the Equatorial Federation but is colloquially known as the Last Democracy or the Free World. with that said, the Equatorials have a bit of an authoritarian streak of their own to the effect that they put down dissidence that would threaten them, ironically working to preserve democracy by undemocratically suppressing radicals and the like within their borders. think of them as the Federation from Star Trek in that regard (there's a fan theory that, for all its claims of freedom, the Federation is actually a fascist state--i don't know terribly much about it, look it up if you want to know more)
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"Oceania" is the most divided, being comprised mostly of former colonial states and a few others with the North American Union (formerly the United States) as the leading power among them--they form the Oceanic (or Oceanian) Treaty for International Security, or OTIS, as TTL's version of NATO

So South America, South Africa, Japan and Australia-NZ are part of the Oceanian block? It's not really very clear visually.

"Eastasia" is the smallest power, and in development it's the one i had the hardest time developing anything for because i was conflicted over how to justify their being a superpower compared to the rest--i eventually settled on them having a war machine powerful enough to take most of Central Asia and now they're in a stalemate with the Russians, with both of them having the ability to get very close to the other's capital

A capitalist Chinese dictatorship that avoided the extended civil war period and the Maoist mischief of OTL could definitely be a superpower by 1984 (think the old Super Power Empire TL's China, but more eeevil): the only trouble would be resource shortages (how willing are Oceania and the Free World to trade with other blocks? Or the Eurasians, for that matter?)
 
Map of South America after the First South American War (1879-1887)

The war started as the War of the Pacific between Chile against Peru and Bolivia and it goes as we know it until 1881. In this year, the negotiations on the border dispute between Chile and Argentina failed and both countries went to war, with Argentina invading the southern half of Chile by the end of 1881, opening a second battlefront for the chilean army.

Brazil already threatened Argentina to enter the war on the side of Chile if the platineans made a move, so in the beginnings of 1882 Brazil invaded Argentina, but they were already waiting for them, offering a ferocious resistance. At this point, chileans named the war as South American War, while the universal history names it as the whole conflict since 1879. Both sides fought intensely during months; Bolivia and Peru launched a counteroffensive, retaking Lima, Miraflores, Chorrillos, down to Ica, while Bolivia threatened the city of Calama, but they failed to retake it.

At this point,the brazilian government asked to their paraguayan pair to let their forces to cross freely by its territory, offering to give back the lands lost by Paraguay on the War of the Triple Alliance years before. Paraguay was a broken country and with no means no negate such petition, so they decided to let the brazlian troops to move freely on their land and aiding them with the few resources they had.

Argentina and Bolivia threatened to annex completely Paraguay and a massive wave of indignation crossed Chile and Brazil, doubling the war effort.

Finally, the peruvian desorganization and the rise of various warlords, added to internal conflicts on the bolivian government take its toll and the chilean forces were able to march to the north again, reconquering Lima by April of 1885, while Brazil lay a long siege on La Paz, taking it on September of 1885. Both countries surrendered and left the war at the beginnings of 1886.

Argentina was left alone and resisted for nearly a year, but they couldn't manage to defeat the combined might of Chile and Brazil, added to the paraguayan army that was armed by Brazil and at February of 1887, the three armies were a few tens of kilometers away from Buenos Aires; at this point the argentinian government surrendered with the only coindition to not have its capital conquered by the allies. Peace was signed on May 1887 and the new borders were settled during the next 5 years.

Brazil conquered parts of peruvian jungle and mountains and a chunk of northern Bolivia. It also created two puppet states, the Republic of Santa Cruz and the United Provinces of Corrientes and Entre Ríos.

Chile took all the Patagonia, the bolivian coast and southern provinces of Perú, up to Arequipa.

Paraguay recovered land lost to Argentina on the War of the Triple Alliance but Brazil refused to give the land they conquered from Paraguay on that war, offering the Chaco Boreal as a compensation, land that was part of Bolivia.

The death toll is estimated on 350.000 human lives between soldiers and civilians and the war delayed the economy of the belligerent countries between 5 to 30 years.

The continent lived in peace for nearly 30 years, when the Second South American War begun, moving the forces of Brazil, Peru, Ecuador, Colombia, Venezuela and Santa Cruz

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Just to let you know that i didn't drew it myself. It just that it will help me give me some Ideas. I know this is a Map Thread but this is my first step of becoming a Novel/Manga writer. If you have any questions just let me know.


If you KNEW these were off topic why didn't you post them where they could be of some help?

All you gained by posting them off topic was a reported post and me having to come in and tell you not to do it again.
 
So South America, South Africa, Japan and Australia-NZ are part of the Oceanian block? It's not really very clear visually.
i could post the artsy-shmarsty alliances map i made for the same project (it's the same world, just with each alliance, etc., highlighted in a different color) but i think i've hit the three-images limit for today and it'll be easier to just post it again. that map itself should still be in either the previous map thread or the one before it. you're actually mostly right guessing on OTIS membership--i was originally gonna say that it's mostly ex-British territories (including the US) but remembered that it also includes formerly French, Spanish, and Portuguese colonies as well so that's why i essentially said it was post-colonial states as well. of those you guessed, only Japan and New Zealand aren't OTIS members--Japan's in a different alliance between just itself and Peru (in terms of designing the alliance, it was inspired by the existence of Alberto Fujimori) and New Zealand is a satellite of the Equatorials, the fictional inspiration in that regard being New Zealand's position in Worldwar where it's more or less ignored by the Race because they see it as just another out-of-the-way island of no importance to them. other key member-states of OTIS include Rhodesia, Colombia and Venezuela (though that's mainly because they're America's stomping grounds, another aspect of the endless war), and Brazil
A capitalist Chinese dictatorship that avoided the extended civil war period and the Maoist mischief of OTL could definitely be a superpower by 1984 (think the old Super Power Empire TL's China, but more eeevil): the only trouble would be resource shortages (how willing are Oceania and the Free World to trade with other blocks? Or the Eurasians, for that matter?)
no ideas on your questions at present--while the map is completed, the rest of the project is still a work in progress--but thanks for the input on China :)
 
This is a scenario where the English language and the Spanish language switch destinies. I didn't have any POD in mind when I made it; rather, each country here is directly parallel to a Spanish-speaking country in OTL. If I had to give it one, however, I'd say that Britain got into the colonization game much earlier but ended up collapsing and losing its empire in the 18th and 19th centuries to France and Spain, while most of Spain's New World colonies successfully united and eventually became a superpower.

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Countries where English is the de jure or de facto national language:

Virginia- The largest English-speaking country at 104 million people, Virginia covers the Great Lakes south to OTL North Carolina and Tennessee. Eastern Virginia is prosperous and nearly first-world in its living standard, but the Great Lakes area is overrun by drug cartels that produce and smuggle drugs into Colombia via the Caribbean.

New England- The second-largest English-speaking country, barely, with 46 million people, it covers the area from Pennsylvania to Maine. The Northern Appalachian area, for the past sixty years, have been a haven for far-left guerilla groups which take advantage of the mountainous terrain and nearby borders with Virginia and Canada. In the past couple of years, however, the central government in New York has reached deals with the guerillas, and the conflict has nearly ended.

Kingdom of Britain- With 44 million people, England is the third-largest English-speaking country. It is also the wealthiest, although it’s fallen quite far since its collapse in the early 19th century. In comparison to other European states, England is regarded as poor and corrupt, but barely functional enough to count as a first-world economy. Scotland and Wales are currently agitating for independence, but London refuses to allow any referendum to take place.

California- Includes OTL Southern California and Nevada; has 33 million people. Emerging from various successive dictatorships, California has become a forward-thinking democratic nation, although the police are corrupt and the politicians are possibly worse. Goodwinds, on OTL San Francisco Bay, is the single largest city and center of government in California.

Channel Islands- A small island territory owned and populated by the French, any Californian will tell you that it is rightfully Californian. There was a war with France in the 1980s where California occupied the islands but was defeated, and the Californians are still very angry about it.

Canada- Population 30 million. During the English conquest of Canada, the French were booted out of the St. Lawrence Valley and migrated westward to the Prairies. French is now a national language, but Francophones are generally poorer, with more Native ancestry. In the 1980s, a Francophone communist guerilla movement with weird new-age religious overtones was active in the rural prairies. Quebec City is the largest city and main port in Canada, with more than 12 million people in its metropolitan area.

Houstonian Republic of Texas- Population 22 million. Texas’s history is fraught with dictatorships and economic mismanagement caused by an over-reliance on oil revenues. The newest tragedy in the cycle began with the election of a new president and subsequent replacement of the Texas Constitution with a new Socialist one in 1998. That president ruled until his death, and now his successor is sending the army to suppress protests against his rule.

Australia- Population 18 million. After a successful war of independence in the 19th century and a stable, prosperous century thereafter, Cold War shenanigans triggered a coup d’etat which led to a brutal military dictatorship. Eventually, democracy returned and Australia is almost a first-world country now.

Republic of the Plains- Population 15 million. Roughly where Kansas and Oklahoma are IOTL, but extending all the way to the Rockies, one could be forgiven for forgetting about this country. It borders both the USA and Texas, from which it declared independence in the mid-19th century, and has an unfortunate history of losing land to its larger neighbors. With a left-wing parliament, it is friendly with the other socialist countries in the region: Texas, Cascadia, and Houstonia, but is considered much less radical.

Republic of Florida- Population 14 million. This nation, located on the Florida Peninsula, is ethnically about half-native and half European. The Southern States declared independence from Virginia as the United Provinces of Southern America, shortly after Virginia declared independence from Britain. Florida dominated the UPSA, but the union collapsed before long. After a long and bloody civil war in the late 20th century, it has established a somewhat shaky democracy, though drug violence, poverty, and crime remain rampant.

Cascadia- Population 10 million. Comprising OTL Washington and Northern Oregon, Cascadia is a full-fledged communist military dictatorship with little regard for political freedoms. The current regime is something of a reaction to the previous right-wing regime, which was itself brutal and autocratic. Cascadia is sometimes considered a rogue state, and faces constant shortages due to embargoes and economic mismanagement.

Houstonia- Population 8 million. Consisting of the wide Northern plains south of Canada with whom it briefly united in the 19th century, Houstonia has a large indigenous population. Houstonia, historically, had a deep economic rift between the natives and the whites, but the current socialist regime is mending that as best it can. Poverty is still a massive problem in the country.

Caribbean Republic- Population 8 million. Comprising the Lesser Antilles, Richport (OTL Puerto Rico), Jamaica, Guyana, and part of Cuba, the Caribbean Republic suffered its share of dictatorships and civil war, but is quickly growing into a vibrant democracy. The population is primarily mixed, resulting from intermarriage between blacks and whites beginning in the 19th century.

Georgia- Population 7 million. Another former UPSA state. After a long, troubled history of civil wars, dictatorships, drug violence, and gang warfare, Georgia is still the homicide capital of the world.

Arizona- Population 5 million. When Arizona declared its independence in the early 19th century, it struggled with racial tensions and neighbors meddling in its politics. In the 1840s, a brutal dictatorship had an elegant solution: Death for anyone trying to leave the country for any length of time, and mandatory intermarriage between whites and natives. The dictatorship fell after a horrific war that destroyed almost three-quarters of the adult male population, but its legacy is still felt today: Navajo and English are spoken equally within the country, and it is still deeply independent.

Alabama- Population 5 million. Another former UPSA republic, alabama has had a similarly tragic post-independence history. Following a long drawn-out civil war, Alabama still suffers from extraordinary crime rates. The Yellow Hammers, a notorious criminal gang, traces its origin to Alabama.

Mississippi- Population 5 million. In the late 1970s, Mississippi's government was taken over by communist insurgents. In response, Colombia began arming and training counterrevolutionary death squads, resulting in a civil war in which tens of thousands were killed. Today, the country still struggles with crime and poverty. The Biloxi Coast is an autonomous area in southern Mississippi, where French and Biloxi are spoken.

South Carolina- Population 4.5 million. After a series of dictatorships culminating in a civil war in the mid-20th century, South Carolina abolished its armed forces and became one of the few English-speaking republics with a strong, stable democracy. It is also a hot-spot of eco-tourism and boasts a thriving green energy sector.

Louisiana- Population 4 million. Louisiana declared independence from Texas in the early 20th century as part of a Colombian scheme to control trade in the Mississippi River region. The port of Louisiana City (OTL New Orleans) is a major shipping hub that connects the heart of the North American continent with the Gulf of Mexico and beyond. Louisiana has grown fairly wealthy thanks to this port and also the country's status as a tax haven.

Occidental Republic of Oregon- Population 4 million. Oregon is a stable democracy that ranks first in Anglophone North America in human rights, lack of corruption, and press freedom, and is nearly top-ranked in terms of GDP per capita, income equality, and overall economic growth. It is friendly with its neighbors and generally keeps to itself.

Sierra Leone- Population 3 million. The only officially English-speaking country in Africa, Sierra Leone has grown wealthy from its lucrative diamond mines. However, the extreme corruption at all levels of government ensures that very little of this money actually benefits the average citizen. Despite a high GDP per capita, Sierra Leone has a very low standard of living, poor education, and little infrastructure.

Overseas Department of Hawaii- Population 2 million. A French overseas department, Hawaii is nonetheless almost completely English-speaking. The state has grown and thrived from its link to the French metropole, but still lags behind France in terms of living standards and unemployment.


Countries where English is a significant minority language or where it was once a national language:

Colombia
- The country of 300 million is the worlds premier superpower and a major player in world politics. Although Colombia is not primarily an English-speaking country, there is a significant Anglo-Colombian minority throughout the country. Today, over 40 million Colombians speak English as a first language, although immigration policy has become increasingly restrictive and discrimination against non-Spanish speakers is on the rise.

Nigeria- Population 100 million. Nigeria was part of the British Empire for a long time, but was lost in a war with France in the late 19th century. English remained an official language in the country, along with Nigerian (a standardized Yoruba register) and French, until the 1980s, but the language is seldom spoken today. An English creole, Negrish, is spoken in some inland areas.

North Borneo Territory- Population 6 million. North Borneo was owned by England as one of the last vestiges of the British Empire until the territory was handed over to Indonesia and Malaysia in the 1970s. This led to a guerilla war; Indonesia dropped its claim and Malaysia moved to take the entire territory, eventually building a wall between the coastal areas and the jungle interior. The Kalimantan Democratic Republic, which claims the territory but only controls the sparsely-populated inland areas, lists English and Malay as national languages, but Malaysia only lists Malay.

Ouacalla/Wakala- Population 1 million. Located in OTL East Florida, it was called French Florida until it gained its independence from France in the 1980s. Ouacalla is not, officially, an English-speaking nation; the country’s official languages are French and Muskogee. However, long centuries alongside Florida and Alabama has ensured that most Ouacallais have at least a basic grasp of English.

The Principality of Ellan Vannin- Population 90,000. Ellan Vannin, also known as Mannin or Mann, is an island country located between Ireland and Britain. Mann's primary language is Manx but recognizes English as a secondary language, alongside French and Welsh. Mann is traditionally a diarchy where the two co-rulers are the High King of Ireland (or Taoiseach in the modern era) and the Bishop of Clwyd in Wales. However, day-to-day governance is handled by an elected Prime Minister. Mann is a major tourist destination and tax haven, and as a result two-thirds of the population are foreign residents.

Dover/Douvres- Population 30,000. The French exclave of Douvres has been owned by France since the 18th century, and remains a sore spot in Anglo-French relations, as England still claims it. French is the only official language, but residents speak both French and English fluently along with a mixed vernacular known as Falaisien.
 
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I agree with you, yes. But for people who have difficulties in communication (I have heard autism/Asperger Syndrome has such symptoms, is that right?) it might well need to be clearer...
I count as both myself, but doubt many who have went with years of special education would continue on that path. Heck, as a kid I left during awkward scenes in movies because I felt uncomfortable. I don't see memes being something worth arguing over.

Baden gains land only in the north, and thus gains South Baden as part of it's name?
Redid a map from the beginning of my timeline.

The Viceroyalty of New Spain in 1810, on the eve of the Grito de Dolores.

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Oh dear. Any land set aside for the rest of the US's Natives? Or if the trans Mississippi area basically the Unorganized Territory at this point?
 
Ah that was quick.

Here's yet another WIP that shall be condemned to a year of development hell before it sees the light of completion.

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So someone made a map of Mondas from the recent Dr Who episodes...

Blog entry: http://www.gian-cursio.net/2017/07/mondas-reconstruction/
Full size map: http://www.gian-cursio.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/WEaT-Mondas.jpg

Quoting myself, changes I can see...

Europe is mostly unchanged. However, that is either a strange cloud formation, or a massive Balearic Island. Aral Sea is gone. Caspian Sea is going the way of the OTL Aral Sea.

It's a bit unclear under the cloud, but it looks like we have a Siberian Sea. The Russian Far East is also either missing or displaced south-east quite a distance (to a point significantly east and a bit south of OTL Japan).

Africa has a huge chunk of sea where the Congo jungle was. West Africa looks like it has something suspiciously similar to Arabia tacked on to it. It was probably a lot wealthier in this timeline as a consequence, due to different rainfall patterns. Madagascar is missing (actually relocated to where the OTL Galapagos Islands are).

Arabia lost the Oman region. It's unclear what's going on in India, but we seem to have an Afghanistan Sea, and another Tibetan Sea.

India itself appears to either be fragmentary or have an internal sea. Perhaps in this timeline, the geological pressures failed to force the subcontinent northwards so quickly. The Indian Ocean and associated longitudes seem to be considerably wider, which is compensated by a much smaller Pacific ocean.

South-east Asia is just weirdly shaped. The East Indies appear to have sunk or failed to form. However, Australia appears to be massive. It's unclear from the projection and incomplete data, but perhaps it is connected to Antarctica still. There might also be hints of a connected Zealandia subcontinent here.

The Aleutian Islands seem to be missing, instead replaced by a shifted Russian Far East. It's unclear if Alaska is connected to the North American mainland (geologically, it should be if things are anything like OTL). However, there appears to be a fair amount of blur in that part of the map, so it could go either way. There also appears to be a massive channel going south from a slightly west-shifted Hudson Bay, then being west around Kansas to southern California. Mexico's Baja California is gone. Coupled with the Alaskan Channel, that suggests some very different geology.

South America looks to be far wider OTL, but the southern cone is missing any data.
 
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