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Metellus

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Nice! Saved for future use. Seems like this can be used pretty much anywhere on the internet.
 

Isaac Beach

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A WIP (Might have exported way too large an image to be honest :coldsweat:) I've been throwing together in Inkscape using @Upvoteanthology's incredibly useful guide. I'll be honest, colouring in is still a right bitch and I'm not really sure what I'm doing therein, but otherwise I'm really happy with how this is working out. Thanks Becca!

As to the piece itself, set in 'das future' as seems to be my predominant theme. Balkanised Malaysia, heck yeah, now with 80% more Chinese Special Administrative Regions.

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For those who are aware of my "Punk-Time" list project, I've decided to have a map for the unashamedly-punk world it is set in, a world of undead mummies in long-abandoned pyramids, bear-riding Russian cavalry, mad steampunk inventors in the 1890s and sneaky cyberpunk hackers in a grim 1980s, a world that is basically "take our world, now take it to absurdity".

The base map for this was created by @Imperator Frank for his project and used with permission and I emphasise that the world he is creating is wholly different from "Punk-Time" and should not be confused with it.

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The (still heavily-WIP) map here is of Hennodia, the general Europe-equivalent. As you can see, there's a fair few "equivalents" here, but also some oddities. The setting is just before the WWI-equivalent.

Pink: Unified Realm of Azalaia and Narsenia
The land of Celtic-y-pagan-deities-worshipping tophat-wearing gentlemen and ladies that say "How do you do?" and sip tea before cycling to the local temple for their druid to give a sermon and give a sacrifice to the Gods.

Of course, this is a bit of an exaggeration, with there being a large and increasingly-politically-active working-class [the Radical Party is on 27 seats after all] and especially in Lundain, not everybody worships the Pantheon.

Blue: Gallican Commonwealth
Heavily proud of their commonwealth and of their democratic heritage, they have a long rivalry with Azalaia [seeing them as backwards], but due to the rising Teutonic threat, they have entered into an alliance.

The alliance is a bit difficult, given the two were at war barely a decade ago, but the threat of Teutonia has let bygones be bygones. At least until the threat has subdued.

Grey: Teutonic Imperium
A land of very dark humour and a tendency towards authoritarianism and militarism, its people nevertheless are praised even by Azalaians and Gallicans for terrifying efficiency. Their beer and sausages [frankenwuert] are distinctively Teutonic in the mind of other Hennodian states and especially in the Allied States of Lagellania where Teutonic-Lagellians hold Novambeirfests in honor of their Teutonic heritage.

Currently, they're seen as the most likely spark for the wholly-feared "Great Hennodian War" where steam machines will clash with other steam machines in a fight to the death for dominance of the continent.

Orange: Kingdom of Gelderland
If you ask an Azalaian or a Lagellian what they associate with Gelderland, they'll say canals or rowboats or windmills or wooden shoes. All of those exist in Gelderland, but also existing there is the legacy of a clever inventor by the name of Samuel van der Coompuist, who has invented the first combustion engine. Gelderland is very much an "odd one out" in a continent dominated by steam, as it has embraced "diesel" strongly.

Green: Kingdom of Estalia
Once the heart of a huge Empire [the Reman Imperium], it is now a small kingdom noted for its oddly-string-shaped food and for this novelty known as "pessa". Never will catch on, unfortunately. It has thrown its hat in with Teutonia and Moskraya in the increasingly division of Hennodia in two camps bitterly opposed to each other. Much like Teutonia, it has a vocal emigrant community in Lagellania proud of their heritage.

Brown: Knightly Order of Saint Rudolph (Barleia)
What do you get if you mix North-Garudian and South-Hennodian cultures together with a band of knights on a somewhat-isolated island? You get Barleia, a rather weird country truth be told. The Knights has been governing it for centuries, and so far they seem to be secure in power those days. Still, never say never.

Blue-Grey: Halvestian Confederacy
A somewhat-bipolar country, truth be told. In North-West Halvestia, they speak a Teutonic dialect and tend to be more of the "build/make-your-own" mentality, including clocks, knives, cheese, you name it. All of those, when not used, tends to make their way down-slope to South-East Halvestia where their biggest city is. It's a trade hub and is one of the most popular places for bored and wealthy Hennodian teens to go to, for it is noted as one of the most extensive marketplaces where traders ply their wares here. In the South-East, they speak a Hellenic dialect, a legacy of the days where Tyzanbium once ruled it.

Out of necessity [given they border it], they make nice with the Tyzanbine Empire and remain steadfastly neutral.
 
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A timeline where Henry Clay won the 1844 election, and Texas was made into a slavery haven rather than annexed; the American Civil War is avoided as Texas welcomed American slaveholders. While the U.S.A. no longer supports slavery on paper, Texas' slavery industry is supported rather openly. Initially established as a weak buffer state between Texas and Mexico, Chihuahua has a very low population, and is now largely a Californian client state with almost no political power of its own. The Rio Grande Republic is fairly independent-minded, but doesn't have the population or power to compete with any of the larger powers.

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Why does Afghanistan get the Wakhan corridor if it is a protectorate of the UK? The area was to be a buffer zone between Russia and Great Britain.
It was exactly like this IOTL. Check over the following link for details. And really, what point would there be for the British to annex more mountains? They would just give it to a Princely State anyways, unless they planned to garrison the area and directly administer it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Russian_Entente
here's a map of an atl 1925 in a world where the russian white army won the civil war in 1921

I am more interested in why the Belgians thought they could keep that area in Africa (especially as IOTL they declared they were going the more limitted route and were hardly going to manage to rule that area when they had to use the Congo River to get men and supplies over there) as well as why the British both let them have that area, gave all of Togo to France, and then awkwardly split Kamerun with them. And then there is the oddness of the Turks losing to so many weaker countries, the implications of Bavaria hating the French for seizing Baravian Palantine, etc. Still, if we kept everything as realistic as possible this would be a very boring thread.
 

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POD: Germany decides to do a combination humanitarian/gästarbeiter program with the US, offering permanent residency to poor Americans who do not hold a second citizenship. Unfortunately, as so few of them spoke German beforehand they often end up either settling in poor areas in the East or doing low wage jobs alongside "third world" immigrants (cleaning toilets, driving trucks, etc). Many end up in the inner cities of Berlin, Hamburg, Dresden, and Munich, or end up in low-rent suburbs where they carpool for hours to find jobs. As with wealthy hipster expats, many Americans feel no pressure to integrate or learn the language. You also have the bonus twist that many of the poor whites turn to gunrunning, manufacturing crude guns in abandoned factories and dingy flats, and begin to resent the better-assimilated Slavic, African, and Turkish immigrants who they work with. By 2018, the American guest workers are significantly overrepresented in crime stats, and because of the high levels of gun, biker, and racist gang activity (living among, and being treated like, poor Africans and Turks will do that to a lot of poor but arrogant rural white Americans), there is a huge gun and gang problem among both white and black guest workers.
 
So let's play spot the difference as this is the current map in the Alt World Football timeline which it currently is in 1954.
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Difference that I can see:

Soviet Helsinki
Karelian SSR
Independent Brittany-Normandy
France and the UK kept their occupation zones in Libya
France kept Saarland
Rhine-Ruhr is a separate adminitrative region in West Germany
British Somaliland has expanded
Jordan stole a bit more of Israel's land
Pakistan (including East Pakistan) and Sri Lanka are British dominions
Soviet occupation of a bit of northwest China
UK/US/Soviet occupation of Japan
Western Australia is independent
East Germany/West Germany border is a bit different
The UK did a bit of land reclamation in the Wash
(West?) Berlin is a different color to West Germany
Tibetan and Chinese Republican rebellion
Soviet Dalian
(P. R.) Chinese control of a bit of Korea just south of Pyongyang
Tibetan rebellion spread to Arunachal Pradesh a bit
Semi-independent Jeju?
British dominion of Pakistan occupying bits of Gujarat
Brazilian Cabinda (!?!)
Border between Algeria and Morocco looks a bit different
PRC got a port on the Sea of Japan, between the USSR and Korea
Republic of China dropped some of its OTL territorial claims like Mongolia and Tuva, but retains a claim to one city in the Tuva region
A bit of a mess in eastern Indonesia; this might be the same as OTL but I can't remember for sure.
Free City of Trieste
 
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