Map Thread XIV
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He's about to last as long as Luthor did as president.
Translation difficultiesAh, but then they didn't do better against the Mongols, did they?
The link is excellent, although if one does want to balkanise countries such as Finland, one needs to look at dialectal differences which are rather large. A group of people from Helsinki, Rauma, Savonia, and Tampere, respectively, are going to have a really hard time understanding each other. And this, mind you, is in the 21th century; imagine the situation in a largely rural, decentralized, and illiterate Finland until the 1800s where the different dialects might as well have been different languages.
It's like a fun I Spy game, but with geography. I just hope you put in the Kazakh border somewhere.
I mashed together a few maps that were out there, and came up with this. This is the future map of my NationStates country, Ginkaigan.
I'm sorry, but yes it does (also, I think you mean Richard III there). Firstly, neither of his parents - Richard, Duke of York (b. 1411) and Cecily Neville (b. 1415) - will be born to begin with. Richard's paternal grandparents - Richard, Earl of Cambridge and Anne de Mortimer - married in 1408; there's no guarantee this will even happen ITTL. Also, even though Richard's maternal grandparents - Ralph Neville, Earl of Westmorland and Joan Beaufort - married in c.1396, but that still doesn't mean that Cecily (the youngest of their fourteen children IOTL) will even be born.
The meeting of egg and sperm is subject to extreme random chance, given how many things have to go exactly the same as they did IOTL, this is almost impossible to happen again, especially given how much time has elapsed since the PoD in your example (52 years), never mind assuming that two generations of people will be born and have the exact same life experiences during this time.
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Well, yeah, pretty much this. Also, for another example the death of some Midwestern teenager in a car accident in 1962 would almost certainly not have butterflied the assassination of JFK in Dallas in '62, or even likely have had any notable effect on history in general, unless, perhaps, they were a well-known figure IOTL.
Yeah, good point. I mean, there are standards to which a TL can be looked at plausibility wise(for example, ours may be either a Type II or 2.5, or somewhere in between, depending on the circumstances), but authors also shouldn't feel terribly constrained, unless they choose to aim for a certain goal.
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Absolutely. The Shield of Liberty is certainly a Type II or II½ alternate history by the merit that I don't find the process of in-depth hard counterfactual research to be fun. I rather like the idea of spinning narratives, something that I should have accepted and realized in the last iteration of it, but oh well.
Having OTL people born under ATL circumstances and making them different people despite the same person existing is what's fun.
Absolutely. The Shield of Liberty is certainly a Type II or II½ alternate history by the merit that I don't find the process of in-depth hard counterfactual research to be fun. I rather like the idea of spinning narratives, something that I should have accepted and realized in the last iteration of it, but oh well.
Having OTL people born under ATL circumstances and making them different people despite the same person existing is what's fun.
Yes, that's a very good point, and several other popular TLs have been between Type II & Type III as well: just look at Decades of Darkness as a good example-there was a substantial amount of hard research done, but what made it a Type II(besides the Draka-esque premise of the TL)lotta steering was done to the point where it not rarely stretched plausibility to a significant degree.....but the writing was well done by all accounts and it made for a good read.
And What Madness is This? is basically a Type III. But again, a fun read if you have a thing for dystopias.
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