List of Alternate Presidents and PMs II

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Teejay

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Not going to lie, this timeline doesn't sound bad at all (except Macklin taking over from Beazley, i'd rather beaz stay).

I have adjusted the dates accordingly, in this TL the Liberal Party governs a lot like the Conservative Party in the UK or the Nationals did in New Zealand. Peter Costello's reputation was mixed, sort of like David Cameron was. Julie Bishop is pretty similar to Theresa May in her governing style, since back in the 1990's the Conservative wing of the Liberal Party suffered a major setback when John Howard was Prime Minister.

The ALP in recent years in recent years have become more left wing under the leadership of Tanya Pibersek. However the previous election held in 2017 only resulted in a narrow Coalition majority, Labor is predicted to win government in the election due in 2010 on current polling.

The Australian Greens are more a party focused on achieving an environmentally sustainable economy, renewable energy and advocating Zero Population Growth for Australia, their current federal leader is Scott Ludlam. They currently hold the balance of power in the Senate and enjoy a support level of around 10-13%.

Former Labor Treasurer Mark Latham is the leader of what is seen as a far-right populist (if you can call that) party called Alternative for Australia (AfA) which is Classical Liberal on economics. However it rallies against multiculturalism, immigration levels, Islam, what they see as privileges enjoyed by the Aborigines and the LBGT+ community, along with Feminism among other things. Other members of the party include Corey Bernardi and Eric Abetz who defected from the Liberal party. It's support level is currently 10% in the opinion polls and on track to win some senate seats.
 
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I have adjusted the dates accordingly, in this TL the Liberal Party governs a lot like the Conservative Party in the UK or the Nationals did in New Zealand. The ALP in recent years in recent years have become more left wing under the leadership of Tanya Pibersek. However the previous election held in 2017 only resulted in a narrow Coalition majority, Labor is predicted to win government in the election due in 2010 on current polling.

The Australian Greens are more a party focused on achieving an environmentally sustainable economy, renewable energy and advocating Zero Population Growth for Australia, their current federal leader is Scott Ludlam. They currently hold the balance of power in the Senate and enjoy a support level of around 10-13%.

Former Labor Treasurer Mark Latham is the leader of what is seen as a far-right populist (if you can call that) party called Alternative for Australia (AfA) which is Classical Liberal on economics. However it rallies against multiculturalism, immigration levels, Islam, what they see as privileges enjoyed by the Aborigines and the LBGT+ community, along with Feminism among other things. Other members of the party include Corey Bernardi and Eric Abetz who defected from the Liberal party. It's support level is currently 10% in the opinion polls and on track to win some senate seats.

Good god, that nutcase has 10% popularity, what a mistake it was to have him run in 04.

The Greens sound like some of the centrist or right wing greens parties so it isn't completely ridiculous (i think Sustainable Australia is similar). My guess is Dick Smith is bankrolling them.
 
Former Labor Treasurer Mark Latham is the leader of what is seen as a far-right populist (if you can call that) party called Alternative for Australia (AfA) which is Classical Liberal on economics. However it rallies against multiculturalism, immigration levels, Islam, what they see as privileges enjoyed by the Aborigines and the LBGT+ community, along with Feminism among other things. Other members of the party include Corey Bernardi and Eric Abetz who defected from the Liberal party. It's support level is currently 10% in the opinion polls and on track to win some senate seats.
Wasn't he the guy who assaulted a reporter and called him pedophile for taking a picture of his family at a restaurant?
 

Teejay

Gone Fishin'
Good god, that nutcase has 10% popularity, what a mistake it was to have him run in 04.

It is fuelled by discontents who voted for the Coalition, plus people who are concerned about what they see as the "Islamization" of Australia . Anyway 10% is at the top end of their polling results. The Greens are polling upwards to 20% in the opinion polls.

Neither the Liberals or Labor are prepared to do any deals with Alternative for Australia, because of their what they see as Islamophobia coming from the party. However some in the Australian and Sky News are supporters of them.

The Greens sound like some of the centrist or right wing greens parties so it isn't completely ridiculous (i think Sustainable Australia is similar). My guess is Dick Smith is bankrolling them.

I can see that happening, the Greens are polling better (they polled 13% nationally in the last federal election) in this TL than Alternative for Australia. Since a number of more moderate environmentally concerned Labor and Liberal voters have switched over the Greens.
 

Teejay

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Wasn't he the guy who assaulted a reporter and called him pedophile for taking a picture of his family at a restaurant?

Yes, in this TL that forces his resignation as Labor Treasurer (he was a decent treasurer, despite his erratic personality) and left the parliament at the election after that. What happened to him after he left politics let him to form Alternative for Australia. In this TL immigration while lower than OTL is more heavily focused from East Asia, South Asia, Sub-Sahara Africa and the Middle East and the Muslim population is slightly higher than in OTL. Especially with a more generous refugee intake than in OTL.

AfA politicians are often under fire for controversial comments, such as Yassmin Abdel-Magied being asked to move to Saudi Arabia or Sudan where Sharia law is implemented, after remarks she made about Anzac Day. Not to mention speeches about the whole halal certification industry as a massive scam and calling for Islamic facial coverings such as Niqab and Burka to be banned. Also one Afa figure deciders to criticise the whole #meetoo movement and comparing that to the European #120db movement where women sexually assaulted by migrants have told their stories.

The ABC, SBS, The Fairfax and Newscorp papers are very critical of the AfA. However generally the commercial talk back radio and the alt-right blogs are fans of the AfA. They have been attracting some significant support as of late including backing from the Q Society (which is an organisation critical of the Islamic religion) and the guy who the IDF Training gym in Melbourne Avi Yemini among others. There are clashes between AfA and Anti-Fascist groups supporters when ever they turn up to the same protest. Plus they have speakers such as Geert Wilders and Milo speak at their party rallies.
 
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Presidents of Iraq

1979-2008: Saddam Hussein (Iraqi Ba'ath Party)
2008: Izzat Ibrahim Al-Douri (Iraqi Ba'ath Party)
2008: Uday Hussein & Qusay Hussein (Iraqi Ba'ath Party) [CIVIL WAR]
2008-2011: Qusay Hussein (Iraqi Ba'ath Party)
2011: Ahmed Chalabi (Iraqi National Congress)
2011-2013: Ayad Allawi (Iraqi National Accord)
2013-: Nizar al-Khazraji (Iraqi Ba'ath Party)

Saddam, undeterred by threat posed to him by the ever-present enemy of Israel and an Iranian government seeking agreement with President Gore, continued on his course that had served himself and his family so well. Iraq's economy was in terminal decline and international allies were dwindling as even the governments of Libya grew tired with Hussein. Economic sanctions and the arrest of prominent dissidents, even those that were Sunni, turned Iraq into ever more of a pariah state. Saddam's health deteriorated and by 2008, some considered it a blessing when he keeled over. Al-Douri took over but was quietly pushed to the side. A civil war broke out with Uday, long fallen out of Saddam's favour due to his reckless behaviour, and Qusay, noted for his quiet demeanor.

Uday initially had strong support but as he became more desperate, he issued orders for depraved actions against civilians believed to be on Qusay's side, putting off many fighting for him. Qusay triumphed against Uday, having spent years amassing support among the army. Qusay opted not to have his brother executed, but Uday would eventually be put to death under the al-Khazraji regime. Qusay himself fell as the Iraqi populace rose up against the oppressive government, with Shia minorities having support from Iranian and American money. Qusay fled, and the era of the Husseins was over. Chalabi took over with popular support from the Americans, but as corruption allegations stuck to his party and parliamentary elections showed anemic support for the National Congress, he resigned and gave way to a more acceptable figure, who nonetheless failed to rally support behind him. Nizar al-Khazraji, the architect of a poison gas attack on the Kurds in 1988, overthrew the government with the support of the army. Civil war continues to rage in Iraq as the Iranians and Americans mull intervention.

Supreme Leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran

1979-1989: Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini
1989-2014: Ayatollah Ali Khameini
2014-2017: Ayatollah Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani
2017-: Ayatollah Ebrahim Raisi

Presidents of Islamic Republic of Iran


1989-1997: Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani (CCA)
1997-2005: Mohammad Khatami (ACC)
2005-2009: Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani (CCA)
2009-2017: Mohammad Hashemi Rafsanjani (ECP)
2017-: Mohammed Reza Aref (IIPF)
 
I’ve seen a lot of lists around a merger of the Tories in the 1940s or 1950s, but the 1990s were another time. ITTL, Thatcher narrowly misses a majority and makes a coalition with David Owen and his allies in the SDP (with the anti-coalition members joining Steel in oppositon). By 1990, the goverment has fallen apart and Kinnock wins a 400 something seat majority, and is re-elected twice before stepping down for Brown. Michael Hestletine then defeats Brown in 2002 with support from many Liberals and Democrats. However the aging moderate is removed, with Seb Coe winning against the One Nation and Eurosceptic wings. Despite losing a majority, he forms a coalition with the Liberals and SDP, forming the new United Party. Steve Radford takes the radical members of both parties into his gang of goofballs.

Currently, the soft left Labour Party is dominate, with the party of Clive Lord in third in around twenty seats but far less in the popular vote.

1979-1987: Margaret Thatcher (Con.)
1979 def. Jim Callaghan (Lab.), David Steel (Lib.)
1983 def. Michael Foot (Lab.), David Steel & Roy Jenkins (All.)

1987-1990: Margaret Thatcher (Con. SDP Coalition)
1987 def. Neil Kinnock (Lab.), David Steel & David Owen (All.)
1990-2000: Neil Kinnock (Lab.)
1990 def. Margaret Thatcher (Con.), Paddy Ashdown (Lib.), David Owen (SDP)
1994 def. Dave Mellor (Con.), Paddy Ashdown (Lib.), David Owen (SDP)
1998 def. Dave Mellor (Con.), Paddy Ashdown (Lib.), Rose Barnes (SDP)

2000-2002: Gordon Brown (Lab.)
2002-2005: Michael Hestletine (Con.)

2002 def. Gordon Brown (Lab.), Malcolm Bruce (Lib.), Rose Barnes (SDP), Clive Lord (Green)
2005-2006: Seb Coe (Con.)
2006-2011: Seb Coe (Con. SDP Coalition)

2006 def. Glenda Jackson (Lab.), Malcolm Bruce (Lib.), Rose Barnes (SDP), Clive Lord (Green)
2011-2014: Glenda Jackson (Lab.)
2011 def. Seb Coe (United), Steve Radford (Act.), Clive Lord (Green)
2014-Present: David Blunkett (Lab.)
2015 def. Nick Soames (United), Clive Lord (Green Act.)
 
That is some AAAAAA worthy content
Thanks, it's my own idea as to how an Uday-Qusay civil war would pan out followed by things going a bit Egypt.

Not entirely happy with Rafsanjiani's brother becoming Prez but I was having trouble finding credible "Conservative but not outright batshit" politicos circa 2009.
 
1970-1972: Reginald Maudling (Conservative and Unionist)
1970 (Majority) def. Harold Wilson (Labour), Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal)
1972-1973: Keith Joseph (Conservative and Unionist majority)
1973-1980: Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal)
1973 (National Unity with Democratic-Conservatives and Democratic-Labour) def. Harold Wilson (Labour), Keith Joseph (Conservative and Unionist)
1978 (National Unity with Democratic-Conservatives and Democratic-Labour) def. Tony Benn (Labour), Enoch Powell (Conservative and Unionist)

1980-1985: Jeremy Thorpe (National Unity)
1982 (Majority) def. Tony Benn (Labour), Ian Paisley (Conservative and Unionist)
1985-1994: Paul Channon (National Unity)
1986 (Majority) def. Gerald Kaufman (Labour), Ian Paisley (Conservative and Unionist)
1991 (Minority, with CUP confidence and supply) def. Bryan Gould (Labour), Ian Paisley (Conservative and Unionist)

1994-2000: Bryan Gould (Labour)
1994 (Minority) def. Paul Channon (National Unity), Ian Paisley (Conservative and Unionist)
1996 (Majority) def. Michael Heseltine (National Unity), Ian Paisley (Conservative and Unionist)

2000-2006: Chris Mullin (Labour)
2001 (Majority) def. Paddy Ashdown (British Peoples'), Malcolm Bruce (Liberal Alliance For The New Millennium), Ian Paisley (Conservative and Unionist)

Maudling is elected in the Tory leadership election of 1965. His corruption and dodgy deals come out in 1972 and he jumps before he is pushed. Keith Joseph wins the leadership election, not long before a general strike is launched. Joseph's brutal methods, along with escalating violence in Northern Ireland and his monetarist economic policies sees many in the moderate wing leave the party. A similar thing happens in Labour as Wilson decides to come out in support of the strikes and the Democratic-Labour group grows.

A National Unity Agreement is formed, and when Joseph loses his majority, a general election sees National Unity sweep into power. Jeremy Thorpe goes on to govern the country for twelve years officially. Unofficially, he remained the power behind the throne until the collapse of Channon's minority government in the 90s. His time in government was characterised by following the American lead on neoliberalism, crushing the unions and centralising power to Westminster. With Labour and Tories alike swinging to the fringes, National Unity seemed like the only sensible option and Thorpe did all in his power to keep it that way.

Channon's premiership was lamentable almost from the beginning. Corruption allegations began to froth to the surface, and the authoritarianism that Thorpe had subtly used to such dramatic effect became a clunking fist that saw journalists clumsily blacklisted and protests embarassingly contained. Despite this, National Unity's institutional strength enabled it to retain a great deal of staying power well into the 90s.

After Gould got his majority government in 1996, a proper investigation of National Unity's doings during its time in government could be carried out and the findings were cataclysmic. Everything from the illegal sale of arms to anti-communist military regimes in Latin America and the Middle East, to the cover-up of party grandee Cyril Smith's sexual crimes. The long repressed media found new dirt every week and it became clear that National Unity would not survive. While the bulk of the party would reform under Ashdown's leadership, aiming to purge itself whilst claiming the former party's achievements as its own, a Liberal Restoration group also emerged.

The Labour Party had its own problems, but re-election wasn't one. They became the party of protest in the National Unity years as the Tories were ensnared by Ulster, and they were now vindicated by the scandals which had emerged. But the party's moderation in order to gain power now came under criticism from within. Why should they toe the line of a National Unity established agenda? Gould stepped down in 2000, deciding the turn of the millennium was a good time to stand down. At the ensuing leadership election, Chris Mullin won in a shocking turn of events. He had gained no small amount of fame since 1994, finding himself at the heart of the revelations of the National Unity period and his own role in their events. Emblematic of that time and presenting a radical new agenda that proposed to take Britain out of that time into a new one, he won the leadership and then an increased majority over the divided opposition in 2001.
 
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So that's why people don't like Reggie Maudling. I thought it was just because he was a dork.

Yeah, his directorship of companies came up in the 1965 leadership election, but nothing really stuck until 1972 when an architect he helped get lucrative contracts for went bankrupt. The architect regularly used bribery, and when the police tracked them, his connection to Maudling became clear. At the time, he was Home Secretary.
 
Spitzer Keeps It in His Pants

2007-2014: Eliot Spitzer (Democratic, Independence, and Working Families)
def. 2006 John Faso (Republican and Conservative)
def. 2010 Rick Lazio (Republican and Conservative), Howie Hawkins (Green)

2015-0000: Chris Gibson (Republican and Independence)
def. 2014: Andrew Cuomo (Democratic), Howie Hawkins (Green), Carl Paladino (Conservative), Zephyr Teachout (Working Families)

Eliot Spitzer either doesn't get involved with the escort scandal, or at least doesn't get caught, and becomes a successful Governor, passing Same Sex Marriage in 2009. He does not seek a third term, supposedly to launch a 2016 bid to succeed President Clinton, leaving the Democratic Field wide open. The nomination of Attorney General Cuomo causes the Working Families Party to nominate Zephyr Teachout. On the Republican side, the nomination of the moderate Chris Gibson leads Carl Paladino and conservatives to also lead a walkout.
 
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Two-party system in Russia

1992: Yegor Gaidar (Independent) - Acting
1992-1998: Viktor Chernomyrdin (Gazprom)
1998: Sergey Kirienko (Gazprom)
1998: Viktor Chernomyrdin (Gazprom) - Acting
1998-1999: Yevgeny Primakov (Silovik)
1999: Sergey Stepashin (Silovik)
1999-2000: Vladimir Putin (Silovik)
2000-2004: Mikhail Kasyanov (Independent)
2004: Viktor Khristenko (Gazprom) - Acting
2004-2007: Mikhail Fradkov (Silovik)
2007-2008: Victor Zubkov (Gazprom)
2008-2012: Vladimir Putin (Silovik)
2012: Viktor Zubkov (Gazprom) - Acting
2012-Present: Dmitry Medvedev (Gazprom)


Well, technically I just made a list of Prime Ministers of Russia by previous experience/connections, but it looks rather alternatehistory-ish.
 
Spitzer Keeps It in His Pants

2007-2014: Eliot Spitzer (Democratic, Independence, and Working Families)
def. 2006 John Faso (Republican and Conservative)
def. 2010 Rick Lazio (Republican and Conservative), Howie Hawkins (Green)

2015-0000: Chris Gibson (Republican and Independence)
def. 2014: Andrew Cuomo (Democratic), Howie Hawkins (Green), Carl Paladino (Conservative), Zephyr Teachout (Working Families)

Eliot Spitzer either doesn't get involved with the escort scandal, or at least doesn't get caught, and becomes a successful Governor, passing Same Sex Marriage in 2009. He does not seek a third term, supposedly to launch a 2016 bid to succeed President Clinton, leaving the Democratic Field wide open. The nomination of Attorney General Cuomo causes the Working Families Party to nominate Zephyr Teachout. On the Republican side, the nomination of the moderate Chris Gibson leads Carl Paladino and conservatives to also lead a walkout.
"Spitzer keeps it zipped" is a better title. Great scenario though. Wow. Those butterflies.
 
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