List of Alternate Monarchs and Aristocratic Lineage

[krieger]

The asterisk marking Catherine of Lancaster? Who is she? Henry V's daughter I'm assuming

Yes, ITTL Henry V lives longer and sires a daughter. I forgot to mention this (which I intended to do).

 

[WillVictoria]

It was developed from an idea elsewhere of WI Francis pressed his claim, and one of the ideas suggested was that Francis marries OTL Victoria, possibly through earlier Catholic Emancipation and a change to the succession laws.

Here that doesn't happen, but the Prince of Wales, and the Duke of Clarence provide issue so Victoria never becomes the Heir Presumptive and remains a relatively minor Princess throughout her life and is allowed to marry a relatively minor - and Catholic - Prince because her accession was considered extremely unlikely.

Alexander of Modena would consider himself the King Claimant not just because of Francis of Modenas claim, but because of his mother's claim to the crown too. So even outside of the Jacobite line claim, there is the "Victorian" claim as well.

One of the reasons for allowing Victoria to marry Francis would be to try and bring the Jacobite claim (unpressed as it had been since the death of the Cardinal Duke) under "Hanoverian" control. It somewhat backfired.

Except Victoria spent several years as heiress presumptive ITTL for Queen Georgina. Based on the dates, we're supposed to assume that as soon as Georgina Jr is born they marry off the second in line to the throne to a Catholic? Even with Georgina Jr's birth, she's still a baby and they'll want a spare (here it's Victoria) in case the kid dies, which was a real possibility at the time.

Also, once she married a Catholic, there is no Victorian claim to the throne. The Act of Settlement is very clear that once you marry a Catholic you're out of the line of succession. Alexander can choose to believe it or not, but the law is not on his side. He can call himself the King of the UK, but that doesn't mean anyone believes he has a serious claim to push. George III called himself King of France but by that point, no one took the claim seriously.

Finally, why do the Hanoverians care about the Jacobite claim? It's unpressed and at this point has no popular support. While people might have been sympathetic when it was the Stuarts, by this point, it has moved on to a random Italian Duke. They don't need the Jacobite claim under their control because when Henry Stuart died it lost all popular support at home and abroad. No one is coming in with an army to put the Duke of Modena on the throne, and no international country is calling Francis King of the UK. The Jacobites are a non-issue and they aren't going to waste the second in line to the throne on them (more likely Victoria gets the "pleasure" of marrying Willem III of the Netherlands)

 

[Kellan Sullivan]

(more likely Victoria gets the "pleasure" of marrying Willem III of the Netherlands

Or Christian IX of Denmark, or Alexander II of russia

 

[Jan Olbracht]

Henry VI kills himself during attack of madness in 1454 leaving infant son as heir. Richard of York is regent of his young cousin, Yorks do not claim the throne for themselves and Wars of the Roses are avoided


Edward IV (1453-1501) King of England 1454-1501, Duke of Burgundy iure uxoris 1477-1501 m. 1474 Mary of Burgundy (1457-1511)

1) Margaret (1476-1504) m. 1488 Charles VIII (1470-1500) King of France

1) Charles IX (1493-1516) King of France 1500-1516)

2) Louise (1495-1497)

3) Louis (1496-1498)

4) Francis I (1498-1549) King of France 1516-1549

5) Charlotte (1500-1564)​

2) Mary (1478-1523) m. 1495 John (1478-1497) Prince of Asturias

John III (1498-1556) King of Spain​

3) Henry (1480-1483)

4) Edward V (1483-1539) King of England 1501-1539, Duke of Burgundy 1511-1539 m. a) 1504 Elizabeth of Austria* (1487-1418) b) 1520 Beatrice of Portugal (1504-1538)

1a) Edward (1507-1524)

2b) Mary (1522-1576)

3b) Henry VII (1524-1543) King of England, Duke of Burgundy 1539-1543

4b) John II (1525-1598) King of England, Duke of Burgundy 1543-1598

5b) William (1528)

6b) Margaret (1530-1572)

7c) Richard (1532-1535)

8c) Charles (1534)​

5) Catherine (1485-1541) m. 1499 James IV (1473-1519) King of Scotland

1) James V (1505-1559) King of Scotland 1519-1559

2) Alexander (1507)

3) Alexander (1508-1556) Duke of Ross

4) Robert (1511)
​

* Daughter of HRE Maximilian and Sophia of Poland.

 

[vandevere]

Slight typo here. You have Edward V, son of Edward IV also listed as Edward IV...

That said, that's a very interesting TL you've got there! I like it!

 

[Jan Olbracht]

Slight typo here. You have Edward V, son of Edward IV also listed as Edward IV...

That said, that's a very interesting TL you've got there! I like it!

Thanks, corrected.

 

[kasumigenx]

Jeanne II d’Auvergne and Burgundy m. Philip II of Burgundy(a)

1a. John the Fearless b. 1366

2a. Marguerite of Burgundy b. 1368

3a. Catherine of Burgundy b. 1472

4a. Bonne b. 1376

5a. Anthony, Count of Boulogne b. 1480

6a. Mary of Burgundy b. 1482

7a. Philip II of Rethel b. 1484


Margaret III of Flanders m. Charles IV(d)

1d. Anne of Bohemia b. 1368

2d. Sigismund of Luxembourg b. 1370 m. Margaret of Hainault

3d. John of Bohemia b. 1373

4d. Margaret of Bohemia b. 1375

5d. Charles of Bohemia b. 1378

 

[krieger]

4) Francis I (1498-1549) King of France 1516-1549

If you're going for the names not used by royal line of Valois (first king or royal son Francis was OTL Francis I, who was not the son of Charles VIII) why didn't you name the lad Edward, after maternal grandfather? It is more natural than naming the child after distant cousin, who is still a small child at time of birth of Charles's younger son and is not important.

 

[Jan Olbracht]

If you're going for the names not used by royal line of Valois (first king or royal son Francis was OTL Francis I, who was not the son of Charles VIII) why didn't you name the lad Edward, after maternal grandfather? It is more natural than naming the child after distant cousin, who is still a small child at time of birth of Charles's younger son and is not important.

Charles VIII had younger brother named Francis IOTL (Francis, Duke of Berry born in 1473), so it would not be first Valois Francis.

 

[krieger]

Charles VIII had younger brother named Francis IOTL (Francis, Duke of Berry born in 1473), so it would not be first Valois Francis.

Correct, forgot about that Francis.

 

[wwbgdiaslt]

Gender Flipped Georgians - (WIP)


George III, b. 1738, r. 1760 - 1820, m. Charlotte of Mecklenburg-Strelitz, b. 1744, d. 1818

1) Charlotte, Princess Royal, b. 1762, d. 1830, m. Frederick Ferdinand Constantin of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach, b. 1758, d. 1793

a) George, b. 1793, d. 1817, engages to Marie of Wurttemburg, b. 1799, d. 1860​

2) Augusta, b. 1763, d. 1827, m. Frederick Adolf of Sweden, Duke of Ostergotland, b. 1750, d. 1803

X) no issue​

3) Magdalena, b. 1765, d. 1837, m. ?

X) no surviving issue​

4) George IV, prev. Prince of Wales, b. 1766, r. 1820 - 1828, m. Elisabeth Wilhelmine Marie of Wurttemburg, b. 1767, d. 1790

X) no issue​

5) Elisabeth, b. 1767, d. 1820, m. Francis of Saxe Gotha and Saalfield, b. 1850, d. 1806 * (1)

a) George Anton, b. 1784, d. 1841, m. Charlotte Frederica of Mecklenburg-Schwerin, b. 1784, d. 1840

1) George Francis, as George V, b. 1805, r. 1857 - 1866, m. Louise of Prussia, b. 1808 - 1870
2) Charlotte, b. 1806, d. 1874, m. ?
3) Alexander, b. 1808 (m)
4) Alice, b. 1809 (f)
5) Anton, b. 1811 (m)
6) Francis, b. 1813 (m)
7) Frederica, b. 1815, d. 1908, m. Karl of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg, b. 1813, d. 1878

a) m
b) f
c) m​

8) Louise, b. 1818, (f)
9) William, b. 1822 (m)​

6) Frederick, "The Bachelor King", prev. Duke of York & Albany, b.1768, r. 1828 - Late 1840, never married
7) William, Duke of Clarence and St. Andrews, b. 1770, d. Early 1840, m. Caroline of Hesse Homburg, b. 1772, d. 1854

X) no issue​

8) Mary, b. 1771, d. 1851 (f)

a) issue​

9) Frederica, b. 1773, d. 1843, m. Louis Philippe, Duke of Orleans, b. 1774, d. 1850

X) legitimate issue, but excluded from line of succession due to Catholicism​

10) Sophia, b. 1774, d. 1850 (f), m. ?

a) issue​

11) Edward VI, prev. Duke of Kent and Strathearn, b. 1776, r. 1840 - 1857, m. Catharina Frederica of Wurttemburg, b. 1783, d. 1835

X) no issue​

12) Ernest, Duke of Cumberland and Teviotdale, b. 1777, d. 1848, never married

(1) - 2nd Marriage​

 

[FalconHonour]

Gender Flipped Georgians - (WIP)


George III, b. 1738, r. 1760 - 1820, m. Charlotte of Mecklenburg-Strelitz, b. 1744, d. 1818

1) Charlotte, Princess Royal, b. 1762, d. 1830, m. Frederick Ferdinand Constantin of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach, b. 1758, d. 1793

a) George, b. 1793, d. 1817, engages to Marie of Wurttemburg, b. 1799, d. 1860​

2) Augusta, b. 1763, d. 1827, m. Frederick Adolf of Sweden, Duke of Ostergotland, b. 1750, d. 1803

X) no issue​

3) Magdalena, b. 1765, d. 1837, m. ?

X) no surviving issue​

4) George IV, prev. Prince of Wales, b. 1766, r. 1820 - 1828, m. Elisabeth Wilhelmine Marie of Wurttemburg, b. 1767, d. 1790

X) no issue​

5) Elisabeth, b. 1767, d. 1820, m. Francis of Sace Gotha and Saalfield, b. 1850, d. 1806 * (1)

a) George Anton, later George V, b. 1819, r. 1857 - 1901, m. ?​

6) Frederick, "The Bachelor King", prev. Duke of York & Albany, b.1768, r. 1828 - Late 1840, never married
7) William, Duke of Clarence and St. Andrews, b. 1770, d. Early 1840, m. Caroline of Hesse Homburg, b. 1772, d. 1854

X) no issue​

8) Mary, b. 1771, d. 1851 (f)

a) issue​

9) Frederica, b. 1773, d. 1843, m. Louis Philippe, Duke of Orleans, b. 1774, d. 1850

X) legitimate issue, but excluded from line of succession due to Catholicism​

10) Sophia, b. 1774, d. 1850 (f), m. ?

a) issue​

11) Edward VI, prev. Duke of Kent and Strathearn, b. 1776, r. 1840 - 1857, m. Catharina Frederica of Wurttemburg, b. 1783, d. 1835

X) no issue​

12) Ernest, Duke of Cumberland and Teviotdale, b. 1777, d. 1848, never married

(1) - 2nd Marriage​

I like this, but I'm not sure I fully understand it. Why is this 'Gender-flipped' Georgians??

 

[VVD0D95]

Having a bit of fun with this:

James II of England and Ireland VII of Scotland (b.1633) m Sophia of the Palatine (b.1630)

Issue:

Charles, Duke of Cambridge later Charles III (b.1660)

James, Duke of Kendal (b.1661)

Henrietta of England (b.1664)

Edgar of York (b.1666)

Henry of York (b.1668)

 

[wwbgdiaslt]

I like this, but I'm not sure I fully understand it. Why is this 'Gender-flipped' Georgians??

The gender of George III's children and grandchildren has been flipped.

 

[Kellan Sullivan]

The gender of George III's children and grandchildren has been flipped.

Gender flipped maybe, but the consorts don't really make much sense. You've got the Princess Royal marrying a reasonably unimportant prince, and her younger sister to a royal prince. George IV's wife dies with no issue and he lives another 30years without remarrying? Pretty ASB IMO.

 

[wwbgdiaslt]

Gender flipped maybe, but the consorts don't really make much sense. You've got the Princess Royal marrying a reasonably unimportant prince, and her younger sister to a royal prince. George IV's wife dies with no issue and he lives another 30years without remarrying? Pretty ASB IMO.

Adjustments can be made when the initial pass is completed. I looked to find brothers/sisters, or as close familial counterparts as possible for the spouses. The Duke of Kent analogue marries the father of the Dukes wife because the ages matched more.

 

[Jonathan]

An updated list, working Progress First and second generation done

WI Elizabeth of York was born male.

Edward IV of England (28/2/1442–9/4/1483) m. 1464, Elizabeth Woodville (c. 1437–8/7/1492)

1) Edward V of England (11/2/1466–6/11/1513) m. 1590, a) Isabella, Princess of Asturias (2/10/1470–23/8/1491) b) 1492, Anne of Brittany (25/1/1477– 9/1/1514)

1a) Edward, Prince of Wales (23/8/1491-19/7/1493) Died 1 year, 329 days after his mother.
2b) Richard III of England (11/10/1492–16/12/1544) m. 1508, Marguerite of Angoulême (11/4/1492-21/12/1549) Marriage was arranged between his father Edward V, his step mother, Anne of Brittany, his aunt Mary, Mary’s husband Charles VIII and Louise of Savoy, the mother of the bride.

1) Edward VI of England (15/3/1510-22/4/1553) m. 1527,
2) Prince Richard of York (10/04/1514-5/1/1555)
3) Princess Elizabeth (04/04/1515-26/05/1515)
4) Princess Elizabeth (26/09/1516-3/12/1547)
5) Princess Mary (07/02/1521-02/08/1521)
6) Prince Charles (04/10/1522-31/3/1570)
7) Princess Mary (28/02/1523-13/04/1527)
8) Princess Margaret (14/10/1525-15/1/1566)
9) Princess Louise (16/11/1528–9/7/1572)
10) Prince Francis (7/7/1530-25/12/1530)​

3b) Edward, Duke of Cornwall (16/8/1493) Third son, died a few hours after birth
4b) Stillborn daughter (25/3/1494)
5b) Stillborn daughter (2/4/1495).
6b) Edward, Duke of Cornwall (8/9/1496–2/10/1496)
7b) Francis, Duke of Cornwall (20/7/1497) Died several hours after his birth.
8b) Anne of England (20/3/1498) She died in the evening of her birth.
9b) Anne of England (13/10/1499–20/7/1524) m. 1516, John II of Denmark and Norway, III of Sweden (20/6/1501-17/11/1569)

Issues see below ​

10b) Miscarriage (2/9/1500)
11b) Stillborn son (21/1/1502)
12b) Miscarriage (1/12/1503)
13b) Miscarriage (30/6/1505)
14b) Miscarriage (24/5/1508)
15b) Miscarriage (27/11/1509)
16b) Elizabeth of England (25/10/1510–12/6/1574) m. 1526, Edward I of Scotland (14/4/1502-9/3/1565)

Issues see below​

17b) Stillborn son (7/1/1512)​

2) Elizabeth of York (11/8/1467–23/5/1482) Died aged 14
3) Mary of York, later Maria, Queen of France (20/3/1469–24/8/1507) m. 1486, Charles "the Affable" VIII of France (30/6/1470-7/4/1498)

1) Anne of France (23/7/1489–27/12/1498) Died aged 9 years old.
2) Joan of France (20/2/1491–25/1/1499) Died aged 8 years old.
3) Charles "the Red" IX of France (19/4/1493-1/9/1545) m. 1512, Antoinette de Bourbon (25/12/1494–22/1/1583)

1) Marie of France (22/11/1515–11/6/1560) m. 1532,
2) Charles X (17/2/1519–24/2/1578) m. 1535,
3) Joan of France (10/1/1520–18/10/1542) m. 1538, Sigismund II Augustus of Poland (1/8/1520–7/7/1572)

1) Sigismund III Casimir of Poland (1/9/1540-5/10/1575)
2) Elizabeth of Poland (17/10/1542-)​

4) Antoinette of France (2/9/1522–3/4/1602) m.
5) Edward, Duke of (17/2/1524–26/12/1574)
6) Louis, Duke of Berry (18/8/1526–3/3/1573)
7) Francis, Duke of Auvergne (21/10/1527–29/3/1578)
8) Prince Henry (3/9/1529–24/9/1529) Died 21 days old
9) Prince John (3/4/1530) Died within hours.
10) Elizabeth of France (31/8/1531–6/3/1561) m. 1542, Sigismund II Augustus of Poland (1/8/1520–7/7/1572)

1) Joan of Poland (/12/1547-)
2) Casimir V of Poland (25/4/1550-24/11/​

11) Hugh, Duke of Bourbon (18/4/1534–3/6/1563)​

4) Charlotte of France (24/8/1496-15/6/1559) m. 1513, Maximilian II, Holy Roman Emperor (16/2/1496-26/3/15)

Issues see below​

4) Richard, Duke of York, later Duke of Norfolk (these are forfeit when he became, Co-King of Navarre (2/11/1470–14/8/1533) m. a) 1478, Anne de Mowbray, 8th Countess of Norfolk, later Duchess of York and Duchess of Norfolk (10/12/1472–18/ November 1481), b) 1483, Catherine, Queen of Navarre (3/6/1468–12/2/1517)

1b) Anne of Navarre (19/5/1492–15/8/1532) m.
2b) Margaret of Navarre (29/3/1494–11/5/1504) Died aged 10.
3b) Catherine of Navarre (5/9/1495–15/10/1532) m. Francis d'Orléans, Count of Angoulême (12/9/1494–31/3/1547)
4b) Princess Elizabeth (15/6/1496–15/11/1496) Died aged 5 months.
5b) Princess Elizabeth of Navarre (3/2/1499–16/10/1536) m.
6b) Stillborn son (17/6/1500)
7b) Prince John (14/10/1501–17/4/1504) Died 2 and a half years old.
8b) Charles V of Navarre (18/4/1503–25/5/1555) m.
9b) Princess Eleanor (14/7/1505 – 5/9/1512) Died aged 7 years old, during the sweating sickness epidemic.
10b) Prince Richard (11/5/1506–5/9/1512) Died aged 6 years old, , during the sweating sickness epidemic.
11b) Prince Edward (9/11/1508–3/9/1512) Died aged 4 years old, , during the sweating sickness epidemic.
12b) Prince Philip of Navarre, Cardinal, Bishop of Pamplona (12/12/1510-16/9/1565)
13b) Princess Mary of Navarre (15/1/1514–16/1/1555) m.​

5) Cecily of York (10/4/1472–11/12/1472) Died 8 months old.
6) George, Duke of Bedford, his title is forfeited when he became, Co-King of Castile, Aragon and León (17/8/1473–21/12/1539) m. 1496, Joanna, Queen of Castile, Aragon and León (6/11/1479–12/4/1555)

1) Princess Eleanor (15/11/1498-25/2/1558)
2) Ferdinand III (24/2/1500-21/9/1558)
3) Princess Isabella (18/7/1501-19/1/1526)
4) Prince Duarte (10/3/1503-25/7/1564)
5) Princess Mary (18/9/1505-18/10/1558)
6) Princess Catherine (14/1/1507-12/2/1578) m. 1525, John III of Portugal (7/6/1502–11/6/1557)

1) Afonso (24/2/1526-25/3/1526)
2) Infanta Maria Manuela (15/10/1527-12/8/1545) m. 1543,
3) Infanta Isabel (28/4/1529-2/8/1573)
4) Infanta Beatrice (15/2/1530-5/1/1602)
5) Prince Manuel (1/11/1531-14/4/1573)
6) Prince George, (25/5/1533-29/4/1592)
7) Prince Manuel (6/4/1535-1/1/1538)
8) Prince John, (3/7/1537-2/1/1554)​

7) Margaret of York (2/11/1475–23/11/1511) m. 1495, Philip IV, Duke of Burgundy (22/7/1478–25/9/1506)

1) Maximilian II, Holy Roman Emperor (16/2/1496-26/3/15) m. 1513, Charlotte of France (24/8/1496-15/6/1559)
2) Mary of Burgundy (24/11/149
3) Philip V, Duke of Burgundy (19/8/1500-)
4) Elizabeth of Burgundy (30/1/1502-)
5) Francis, Count of Dijon (3/6/1503-)
6)​

8) William, Earl of Rutland (4/3/1477–25/3/1479) Died three weeks after 2nd Birthday.
9) Anne of York (14/8/1479–15/11/1527) m. 1500, James IV of Scotland (17/3/1473–9/9/1513)

1) James, Duke of Rothesay and Albany (7/6/1501-27/2/1504) Died shy of his third birthday.
2) Edward I of Scotland (14/4/1502-9/3/1565) m. a) 1515, Isabella of Austria (18/7/1501–19/1/1526) b) 1526, Elizabeth of England (25/10/1510–12/6/1574)

1a) James, Duke of Rothesay and Albany (21/2/1518-11/5/1532) Died aged 14.
2a) Prince Edward (4/7/1519) twin brother, died in childbirth, named after his father.
3a) Prince Philip (4/7/1519) twin brother, died in childbirth, named after maternal grandfather.
4a) Princess Margaret (10/11/1520-31/5/1580)
5a) Princess Christina (8/11/1521-10/12/1590)
6a) Prince Robert (9/1/1523) died during childbirth
7a) Prince Alexander (29/12/1525) died in childbirth, which would claim his mothers life.
8b) Princess Anne (16/11/1529–23/12/1605)
9b) Edward II of Scotland (22/11/1531-1/3/1596)
10b) Princess Renee (16/12/1535–10/6/1598)
11b) Princess Mary (16/7/1537-19/10/1581)
12b) James, Duke of Mar (21/12/1538–14/1/1586)​

3) Princess Margaret (6/6/1503-20/2/1549)
4) Princess Elizabeth (5/11/1505-11/11/1551)
5) James, Duke of Ross (14/9/1507-1/11/1519) Died aged 12 years.​

10) Catherine of York (10/11/1480–2/7/1517) m. 1500, Christian II of Denmark, Norway and Sweden (1/7/1481–25/1/1559)

1) John II of Denmark and Norway, III of Sweden (20/6/1501-17/11/1569) m. 1516, Anne of England (13/10/1499–20/7/1524)

1) Christian III of Kalmar Union (22/3/1518-2/4/1597) m. 1534, Hedwig Jagiellon (15/3/1513–7/2/1573)

1) Catherine of Kalmar (6/9/1537–22/8/1595)
2) Prince John (2/12/1538–14/9/1566) m. 1560, Elisabeth of Hesse (13/2/1539–14/3/1582)

1) Anna of Kalmar (1561–1589)
2) Elisabeth (15/7/1562–2/11/1562)
3) Christian IV of Kalmar Union (19/8/1566–14/11/1612) m.​

3) Anne of Kalmar (2/3/1540–21/10/1602)
4) Hedwig (14/12/1541–27/6/1564)
5) Prince Christian (30/7/1543–23/3/1544)
6) Stillborn daughter (24/11/1545)​

2) Prince Edward, Duke of Lübeck, Protector of the Hanseatic League (7/4/1503-16/11/1578) [1] m. 1542, Beate Clausdatter Bille (30/4/1526–18/10/1605)

1) Prince Edward, Duke of Lübeck (14/12/1546–24/10/1601)
2) Princess Anne (20/2/1548- m. Joachim Frederick, Elector of Brandenburg (27/1/1546–18/7/1608)
3) Prince Christian (23/1/1550-9/10/1561)
4) Prince John, Duke of Hamburg (19/11/1550-
5) Prince Henrich, Duke of Stockholm (26/9/1551–30/10/1617)
6) Prince Frederick, Duke of Malmö (23/7/1552-)
7) Princess Catherine (11/5/1553-5/3/
8) Princess Beatrice (25/3/1554-
9) Prince Otte (16/4/1555-
10) Prince Eric (22/9/1556-24/8/1561)
11) Princess Christine (1558-1603)
12) Princess Sophie (23/11/1559-24/11/1559)
13) Prince Adolf (1/11/1560-
14) Princess Sophie (4/3/1562)​

3) Princess Dorothea (10/11/1506-31/5/1566) m. 1525, Prince Christian, Duke of Schleswig and Holstein (12/8/1503–1/1/1559)

1) Princess​

4) Princess Christine (9/11/1511-10/12/1580) m. 1527,
5) Princess Elizabeth (26/12/1515-25/4/1588) m. 1534, Otte Brahe (2/10/1518–9/5/1571)
​

History of the Kamar Union
- The Vasa Revolt was a rebellion and a civil war that started in 1521 and would last for eleven years, in which the Gustav Eriksson of the Swedish noble family of Vasa, united Swedish and Norwegian rebels.
- Prince Edward, at only 18 on the break out of the Vasa Revolt, became known for his fighting ability and military strategic knowledge, working with Admiral Henrich Krummedige and his nephew, Otte Brahe, who served on the Privy Council of the Realm. Following his victory in 1532, he was created by his brother the Duke of and Lübeck, with the free-city honoured to have their city, having the house of Oldenburg, reside in the newly build, Palace of Oldenburg, situated on the
- Frederick, Duke of Schleswig and Holstein, born 7/10/1471, the younger son of the first Oldenburg King Christian I of Denmark, Norway and Sweden (1426–81), brother of John I of D, N & S, uncle to Christian II of D, N & S, was the highest fatality in the Vasa Revolt, dying at the Battle of Brunnbäck Ferry on the 10th April, 1521, on hearing his death, his second wife, Sophie of Pomerania, who was pregnant, broke down in tears, her heavy weeping caused her to go into early labour with their only child, causing the death of both mother and child.

 

[kasumigenx]

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“Eudes III

Marriages

Eudes III married in 1194 Theresa of Portugal (1156–1218), the daughter of Afonso I of Portugal, and Matilda of Savoy, and the widow of Philip, Count of Flanders. She was repudiated in 1195, having produced no children.

In 1199, he married Eleanor of Brittany the sister of Arthur I of England and niece of Richard I of England. This marriage produced:

Constance (1200–1223), married Raoul II of Lusignan (died 1250), Seigneur d'Issoudun and Count of Eu.

Alice (1204–1266) married Robert I (died 1262) Count of Clermont and Dauphin of Auvergne

Hugh IV (1213–1272), his successor in the duchy

Eleanor (born 1216), married Humbert III of Thoire (died 1279)”




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“Guiges VI of Viennois

Marriages

In 1199 he married Alice of Vergy (1182 – before 1248 the daughter of Hugh, Seigneur de Vergy, by Gillette de Trainel.[4] This marriage produced:

Beatrice (born 1205) married Amaury de Montfort

Guigues VII (born 1212), his successor to the duchy”

 

[VVD0D95]

Something that's long been playing on my mind:

Alexander III of Scotland (b.1241: d. 1301) m Yolande of Dreux (b.1263)

Issue:

Margaret of Scotland (b.1286)

Alexander IV of Scotland (b.1287)

Yolande of Scotland (b.1290)

William of Scotland (b.1293)

Robert of Scotland (b.1296)

 

[Jan Olbracht]

Olbracht II

Albrecht Friedrich Hohenzollern, Duke of Prussia, isn't menthally ill and happened to be ambitious, like father, and religiously indifferent. After death of Sigismund Augustus Albrecht runs for Polish throne as descendant of Jagiellon kings (he was great-grandson of Casimir IV through his paternal grandmother Sophia Jagiellon). Luckily for Albrecht Charles IX dies few months earlier, thus Henri de Valois isn't candidate to the throne of PLC anymore, leaving Albrecht as main counter-candidate of Archduke Ernst. As Habsburgs have large 'negative electorate' Albrecht wins and rules Poland as king Olbracht II. Later, Albrecht Friedrich inherits also Franconian possessions of his cousin Georg Friedrich, as his closest male relative. AF is thus ancestor of 3 lines of House of Hohenzollern (Polish-Prussian, Ansbach, and Bayreuth line) and monarchs of PLC have something they dreamed about IOTL-hereditary duchy.

Albert Frederick (1553-1618) Duke of Prussia 1568-1618, King of Poland (as Albert II) 1573-1618 Margrave of Ansbach and Bayreuth 1603-1618 m. 1580 Isabella of Sweden* (1564-1615)

1) Sigismund III (1582-1636) Duke of Prussia, King of Poland 1618-1636 m. 1605 Constance of Austria (1588-1632)

2) Anna Catherine (1584-1588)

3) Sophia Dorothea (1587-1599)

4) Casimir Albert (1589-1642) Margrave of Bayreuth 1618-1642 m. 1620 Christina of Bavaria** (1603-1655)

5) Vladislaus Frederick (1592-1661) Margrave of Ansbach 1618-1661 m. 1631 Margaret of Bavaria** (1615-1667)

* Oldest daughter of John III Vasa and Catherine Jagiellon, IOTL died in infancy

** Daughters of Elector Maximilian of Bavaria and Anna of Austria (OTL Queen of Poland and Sweden)