Keynes' Cruisers Volume 2

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Story 1933

Messina, March 5, 1943


Half the sky was covered in clouds. The other was blanketed with shell bursts. A twin engine bomber, factory fresh and flown by a pilot on his second combat mission, burst into flames. A single parachute emerged. The farmers were not kind to the navigator from Texas.

Several squadrons of single engine fighters weaved overhead. One squadron, the 99th Fighter Squadron had arrived in Tunisia just days earlier and was flying its first combat mission. Half a dozen aerial jousts had occurred during the morning. Most were inconclusive. A trio of P-40s had been damaged during an encounter with defending Italian fighters limped back to the hard surface airfields near Bizerte instead of the dirt strips where they had taken off in the morning.

Hundreds of bombs had been dropped. All landed. Many worked. Half a dozen actually hit the docks. Two wooden fishing vessels were on fire. A small coal fired coaster was underwater after a near miss buckled the hull.
 
Story 1934

Pantelleria March 6, 1943



American P-38s and P-51s circled overhead. No action had been seen so far. But the fighters waited as the fleet below spread out. This was a tempting target. Beneath the fighters, half a dozen amphibians circled. Radars probed for Italian submarines. Minesweepers had cleared several wide and long firing lanes. Motor torpedo boats and gunboats had kept the cleared lanes open from any late night Italian coastal craft laying new mines.

Richelieu slowed to a stately running pace that would be too slow for a recruit at the end of his basic training. Eight heavy naval rifles swung around and hung over the port bow. The secondary batteries were aiming at different targets. A moment later, A turret fired. Four heavy shells screeched over the sea and slammed into harbor. Corrections were called and B turret flung out its shells.

Behind the French battleship, her two older and smaller cousins began to fire. The heavy cruiser Algerie picked her targets and began a rapid cannonade even as a pair of light cruisers and a quartet of destroyers waited. They would be the rapid counter-battery fire, held in reserve against any Italian gunners who were both brave and foolhardy.

Three hours later, smoke covered the small harbor on the northern side of the island. The airfield was also closed for at least several days for anything larger than an artillery directing aircraft. Even as the French fleet left to return to Bizerte to re-arm and refuel, dozens of British bombers began their runs against the southern port on the island.
 
Story 1935 March 7 1943 Corps activation

Tripoli, Libya March 7, 1943



General Pienarr looked down at his men. The South African expeditionary forces were being re-organized into a stand-alone corps. Replacements were slow in coming as only volunteers would ever be deployed outside of Southern Africa. The two big infantry divisions had done well in the advance from Egypt to Tunisia. They had since pulled back to camps outside of Tripoli where training could take place near ports while the overworked rail net of Tunisia could be relieved of some stress.


Each infantry division had three full strength infantry brigades as well as an infantry tank support group and enough artillery to blast through the thickest defenses. He could find enough men to keep the rifle strength up to standards for one, perhaps two engagements, but his divisions were brittle creatures. Instead of trying to keep two infantry divisions with a total of eighteen working rifle battalions and two infantry tank regiments up to strength, the South Africans were re-organizing. Two new divisions were being officially activated tomorrow even as the two formed divisions were being de-activated.


4th and 6th South African Armoured Divisions would spring into existence tomorrow as real units. The 5th South African Armoured Division was a phantom with one hundred andfive men and thirty one radios assigned to it. The 5th was assigned to the invasion of the Peloponnese. The two real divisions would be unique formations. Two armoured battle groups would be formed. Each had a cruiser regiment paired with an infantry battalion supported by two self-propelled batteries of Horse Artillery to form the mobile punch. An assault infantry brigade with two infantry battalions and an infantry tank regiment provided the division the ability to break through. General Pienarr as the corps commander would hold onto one pure infantry brigade. The South African expeditionary force would go from twenty battalions of front line combat troops to seventeen. The tank park would increase from seventy infantry tanks to over three hundred cruisers and seventy infantry assault tanks. Three fewer battalions were needed, and the average battalion had fewer men now. Corps support troops would be provided by other Commonwealth units.


The South African Corps would be ready for the follow-on operation after Husky.
 

Driftless

Donor
Tripoli, Libya March 7, 1943


General Pienarr looked down at his men. The South African expeditionary forces were being re-organized into a stand-alone corps. (snip)

Dan Pienarr has a plausible longer lease on life in this universe. He has some difficult organizational and eventual combat challenges ahead.
 

Driftless

Donor
Pantelleria March 6, 1943
(snip)
Richelieu slowed to a stately running pace that would be too slow for a recruit at the end of his basic training. Eight heavy naval rifles swung around and hung over the port bow. The secondary batteries were aiming at different targets. A moment later, A turret fired. Four heavy shells screeched over the sea and slammed into harbor. Corrections were called and B turret flung out its shells.

Behind the French battleship, her two older and smaller cousins began to fire. The heavy cruiser Algerie picked her targets and began a rapid cannonade even as a pair of light cruisers and a quartet of destroyers waited. (snip)

Good to see the French fleet in (continued) action in the Mediterranean.
 
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Messina, March 5, 1943

Half the sky was covered in clouds. The other was blanketed with shell bursts. A twin engine bomber, factory fresh and flown by a pilot on his second combat mission, burst into flames. A single parachute emerged. The farmers were not kind to the navigator from Texas.

Some German civilians, especially city dwellers, would abuse and even murder downed Allied aircrew. I'm not sure this would occur here. I thought the average Italian citizen at the time held America in good regard or at the very least didn't hate the U.S. Many people had American relatives from recently past emigration.

Southern Italian farmers would not appreciate the bombing but I think they would be more likely to blame Mussolini for being stupid enough to get Italy into a war against the U.S. Another reason for the ordinary citizen to hate him.
 
Some German civilians, especially city dwellers, would abuse and even murder downed Allied aircrew. I'm not sure this would occur here. I thought the average Italian citizen at the time held America in good regard or at the very least didn't hate the U.S. Many people had American relatives from recently past emigration.

Southern Italian farmers would not appreciate the bombing but I think they would be more likely to blame Mussolini for being stupid enough to get Italy into a war against the U.S. Another reason for the ordinary citizen to hate him.
And, in addition, back on the homefront, the US gov't had declared a truce with the Mafia, and that was paying off with cooperation from the Italian Mafia in Sicily and southern Italy. A downed American airman might well be treated as a VIP...
 
Strategic discussions are occurring as to what to do next. At this time, the French want a push into Indochina but they can supply perhaps a brigade and a cruiser squadron so their wishes are merely that. The UK is happy to make one more push to grab a strategic set of choke points and then fort up and supply the Americans. Perhaps there will be a corps for inter-ally cooperation purposes but from the POV of London, the garrison forces of SE Asia have achieved their mission.

London's view would be that the job would only be done once North Borneo is re-taken. However I can see a need to take south Indochina for the airfields there as this would remove bombers from hitting Singapore. Be funny if that moves the Japanese into developing very long range bombers.
 

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Southern Italian farmers would not appreciate the bombing but I think they would be more likely to blame Mussolini for being stupid enough to get Italy into a war against the U.S. Another reason for the ordinary citizen to hate him.

I concur. Morgan's "The Fall of Mussolini" is very helpful regarding the home-front ( here is the link to the pdf https://b-ok.org/book/756420/aedbda)

The Italians themselves rarely seemed to accept this propaganda of hate. They were almost terrorized by Allied bombing. But what they expressed on the basis of their own experience of the bombings was not a hatred of the American ‘gangsters’ dropping the bombs. Instead, they were shocked, incredulous, and angry at what was perceived to be the total inadequacy of the authorities’ preparation and response. People’s letters were full of criticisms of the poor performance of the Italian air force and of the country’s anti-aircraft defences, which left cities defenceless against bombing attacks. They also spoke of air raid sirens either not sounding before raids, which caught people unawares, or sounding continuously, false alarms which forced people in and out of shelters. The public and private shelters
were regarded as death traps, poorly constructed and maintained, and always
dangerously overcrowded.

The Sicilian cities of Palermo and Catania were bombed throughout the war. Like most cities on the island and in the south, they were always in the range of Allied bombers and they took a particularly intense battering before and during the Allied invasion of Sicily in June and July 1943. When
the bombings started and were still a dramatic novelty, people in Palermo, and in the other bombed cities, naturally tended to exaggerate the destructive impact of the raids on lives and property. The imagining of destruction was part of the frisson and terror which the early bombings induced. But later,
police reporting to their superiors in Rome and shocked residents writing to friends and family elsewhere in Italy, almost exactly coincided in their descriptions of a bombed-out city on its knees, recording in prosaic, concrete, eyewitness terms the breakdown of public services and utilities. The city in early 1943 had long since given up on being adequately defended against bombing raids. It was by this point not even being defended against their consequences. Fires burnt themselves out; survivors cleared and scavenged
through the rubble, unaided and unguided. In a report which we know reached Mussolini’s desk on the eve of the Grand Councilmeeting, the police chief of Catania succinctly summarized the situation in the city: ‘without flour and without water, 30,000 people who crowd into unsafe shelters are subjected, day and night, to incessant terrifying naval and air bombardment which is transforming the city into a heap of ruins’.

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... it was unlikely that the regime could ever get Italians to hate the Americans who were bombing them. For many Italians, especially from the south and the islands, the USA was their Wrst, let alone their second, fatherland, still the land of migration, opportunity, and the second chance. The consumerism and materialism of US culture, so derided in Fascist wartime propaganda, was precisely what attracted many Italians to the USA, or the idea of the USA. If anything, the stock of the USA was enhanced during and as a result of the war, as defeated Italian soldiers acknowledged to themselves and others that such material abundance, expressed in better provisions, better equipment, and better weapons, was enabling the Allies to win the war.

Also, far more important than the attitudes of the civilians, are the attitudes of the Fascist Party bosses. ITTL, there were not even temporary successes in North Africa. Furthermore, the Dodecanese were lost earlier on. The basic elements that pinned down the party bosses against Mussolini are already here. Philip Morgan in the book quoted above, presented how Dino Grandi, Giuseppe Bottai and Ciano himself, were plotting against Mussolini since the winter 1942-1943. So, the basis for the 2 coups (monarchical and fascist) exists and has matured.

It is interesting to mention that Grandi envisioned the changing sides as follows: Firstly, Mussolini was to fall from power, then the King to get more responsibilities. Afterwards, the Italian forces were to attack the Germans at once, before any official talks of armistice and surrender with the Allies. Therefore, he hoped that the Italians will be treated as allies since they are already fighting against the Germans, rather than a defeated foe. Very ambitious plan and I believe that it would extremely difficult to implement.


Be funny if that moves the Japanese into developing very long range bombers.

By the time the Japanese can have a very long range bomber developed, Richelieu won't be shelling Pantelleria but ironworks in Honshu.
 
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If Germany had an issue with building LR bombers in terms of productive capacity especially for suitable engines, Japan's situation was much, much worse. Each bomber costs them four fighters on the front end as the engines can only go one way or the other. Lots of other issues - you really need a flight engineer on this aircraft in WWII, did the Japanese even have a training system for these at all - if they did you know it would not be producing adequate numbers... That's only the beginning.
 
Story 1936

Sunderland, March 8, 1943


HMS Campbeltown
was slowly eased into the dry dock. The destroyer was tired and wearing out. Convoy duties beat up on ships. Large waves and ice cold seas ruined hulls and battered men. Her crew had installed an emergency hot chocolate urn as well as an instant cuppa maker ready to pour out boiling water whenever a work party came below decks. There was nothing so remediating available for the ship. A pair of fresh frigates had just joined the escort group. One was reinforcement, the other was a replacement.

By nightfall, the shipyard’s busy hands had wrapped themselves around the old destroyer. She would be in their hands for the next forty five days. Easier duty would be her next task as the long but far calmer Freetown to Liverpool runs still needed escorts.
 
Story 1937

North of Luhansk, March 9, 1943


Sergeants ordered silence. Men responded with raised eyebrows as the movement of two complete Panzer corps could never be quiet. Eleven divisions had concentrated north of the Russian-Ukrainian border town over the past ten nights. A false concentration of three more Panzer divisions was being shown to the Red Army intelligence system eighty miles to the south near the Black Sea coast.


Another battalion of heavy Tiger tanks was moved into position. There should have been forty five of the monsters available. Seven had broken down after the train trip to the forward depots. Another four had never been issued. Someday the broken down tanks would be available as combat replacements once the workshops finished cannibalizing one or two of the tanks for the other five or six to fight. The heavy tanks would be the spearhead into the Soviet forward defenses. Once a gap was opened up, motorized infantry from the SS would hold the edges and then the almost at full strength 10th Panzer Division would lead the rest of the offensive into the deep rear of the Soviet Southwestern front.


It was a simple plan. A heavy blow against an over-extended enemy. It was a straightforward plan. It was a plan that had a narrow window to work as the mud season was coming and once that happened, nothing would move off road even if it had tracks.


The next morning, a brief artillery barrage concentrated on only a few miles of the front. The tanks advanced with infantrymen right behind them to clean out the hold-outs and strong points.
 
Sunderland, March 8, 1943

HMS Campbeltown
was slowly eased into the dry dock. The destroyer was tired and wearing out. Convoy duties beat up on ships. Large waves and ice cold seas ruined hulls and battered men. Her crew had installed an emergency hot chocolate urn as well as an instant cuppa maker ready to pour out boiling water whenever a work party came below decks. There was nothing so remediating available for the ship. A pair of fresh frigates had just joined the escort group. One was reinforcement, the other was a replacement.

By nightfall, the shipyard’s busy hands had wrapped themselves around the old destroyer. She would be in their hands for the next forty five days. Easier duty would be her next task as the long but far calmer Freetown to Liverpool runs still needed escorts.
At least HMS Campbeltown got a better fate than used as an explosives dummy.

And that drydock aint much use since no German battleships can use them anymore.
 
If Germany had an issue with building LR bombers in terms of productive capacity especially for suitable engines, Japan's situation was much, much worse. Each bomber costs them four fighters on the front end as the engines can only go one way or the other. Lots of other issues - you really need a flight engineer on this aircraft in WWII, did the Japanese even have a training system for these at all - if they did you know it would not be producing adequate numbers... That's only the beginning.


Only as far as I can surmise the Navy for their long range patrol aircraft and flying boats.
 
Seeing as how there are ATL German formations present is the German attack North of Luhansk very different from the events there in OTL?
 
You guys that are asking about particular divisions and such...please say that you're looking this up before asking the question and you don't have this stuff filed away like history geeks know Lee's horse's name or the tune Custer's troopers rode to. Do you actually know what divisions fought in what battles and where each ship was deployed?
 
Do you actually know what divisions fought in what battles and where each ship was deployed?
Some people have a particular interest due to family connections. They had (either or all of the above) a great-great-great grandfather in the 17th (ACW), great-great-uncle with the Ulster Division on the Somme (WW1) or a uncle on Ark Royal (WW2) or an older cousin on HMS Sheffield (Falklands) and have read up and heard stories about that particular unit, ship or regiment.
 
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