Because thats never being challenged at all by any government in the USA
Lol .
I wonder how Catholic "Gilbert" will be accepted by the common man and the church in the new (and hopefully balkanized as fck) "United" "States" of "America"
Because thats never being challenged at all by any government in the USA
Lol .
I wonder how Catholic "Gilbert" will be accepted by the common man and the church in the new (and hopefully balkanized as fck) "United" "States" of "America"
I think that Gilbert was big on religious toleration, so there is a chance that he would remain Catholic in order to help gain support for Catholics in America. Furthermore, if Gilbert (yes I know that the name Lafayette is more popular, but Gilbert is a pretty great name) remains Catholic it could help America further integrate French Canada or former Spanish colonies through that religious connection.Whilst the Marquis was Catholic, Nothing I have ever read about him has ever really spoken about any kind of religious fervor in him. He is always written about as a man more interested in the military, Politics and the rights of his fellow man. In my opinion if he believed he could do more as a protestant then as a Catholic I think he probably would convert.
Loving this timeline so far. Whilst I think that the initial uprisings are a bit unrealistic, particularly the slave revolt given that slave revolts didn't typically spread that quickly and were usually crushed very quickly, I consider it a freebie in terms of the suspension of disbelief and everything else has followed naturally and realistically from it.
Part of me wants to see a timeline where the Regulators are successful and the various fun and games that comes from that. Just imagine the look on the British faces when the rebels they supported to strengthen their interests in the Americas starts waging violent revolutionary wars against their colonies.
Fun fact: I believe that canonically General Wayne is the ancestor of Bruce Wayne. If TTL has a Batman maybe he's a die-hard Republican?
Following the Virginia Plan was the Hamilton-Gorham Plan, which was an even larger departure from the current system. The Hamilton-Gorham Plan called for the abandonment of the republic, and the establishment of a centralized monarchical government in the style of Great Britain. While such a plan would have been utterly rejected only months prior, the H-G Plan saw support from the states which had suffered the most from the current instability, Massachusetts, and the Carolinas.
But, suddenly, a shot rang out, echoing above the noise of the crowd. Fired from a building only slightly ahead of the parade, the shot struck Washington in the head, showering blood, brain and bone fragments into the crowd on the opposite side. Screams rang out, as the General, so beloved by his people, fell from his horse, dead before he hit the ground. The firm hand which had steered America from the brink of disaster was gone. Who could lead the Union now?
The hung vote persisted through the first weeks of June, and the Convention’s progress ground to a halt. During this time, news of Matthews’ defeat reached Philadelphia, and once again, the monarchists gained even more influence. However, on June 13th, a compromise plan came into existence, brokered by Benjamin Franklin and Roger Sherman. A provision would be added into the executive branch that allowed the states to vote yea or nea on whether or not they would accept a monarch when ratifying the Constitution. If the majority voted yea, then the new government would appoint a monarch, but each state would still have the power to decide their own method of governance, whether monarchical or republican.
On December 12th in upper New York pro-republican militia flying the white-black-red tricolor seized control of Albany. With the fate of the union, all eyes turned on New York and New Jersey, expecting the next vote to come from those states. Then, on Christmas Day, Massachusetts unexpectedly ratified the Constitution and voted for a monarchy. The Republic was dead.
On a cold morning in January 21st however, a new candidate was named: the Marquis de Lafayette. Lafayette was received far better than either Louis or Henry, and on January 24th, the C. Congress approved of inviting Lafayette to be the King of the United States of America
On the second day of Congress, Lafayette was offered the crown by Congress only to turn it down, stating that “It would be unwise to accept the crown until Congress is fully assembled.”
"I gave my heart to the Americans and thought of nothing else but raising my banner and adding my colors to theirs."
--Marquis de Lafayette
When Keyes’ republican army arrived at Boston on July 11th, there was one thing noticeably absent: the monarchist army. The bulk of the monarchists had retreated across the bay to Charleston, while some returned to their homes in Boston. Boston fell without a single shot being fired, leading Keyes to proclaim victory, and that night, the republican army celebrated their “victory.”
However, after night fell, the harbor burst into a flurry of activity that went unnoticed by the celebrating republicans. Small boats carrying monarchist troops began to land troops on both Cobb’s Hill in the north of the Boston peninsula, and on the Boston Neck which was a small sliver of land that connected the territory of Boston to the rest of Massachusetts. At 3 am, when the celebrations finally died down, a number of the monarchists who stayed in their homes began firing at republicans on the streets of Boston as the monarchists on Cobb’s Hill, led by Lafayette, began to march into the city proper. In the confusion, order in the republican army broke down and the majority began to flee only to be caught by the force on the Boston Neck, led by Shays. By dawn, the Battle of Boston was over with a complete and total defeat of the republicans. The monarchist strategy had been designed in its near entirety by Lafayette, and with the complete victory Lafayette’s legitimacy as a potential monarch became near unchallengeable.
I think that Gilbert was big on religious toleration, so there is a chance that he would remain Catholic in order to help gain support for Catholics in America.
Lafayette was shot at point blank in the left shoulder before beating the would be assassin unconscious with his holstered sword and fists
interesting. What exactly will distinguish the republican and monarchist states that makes this deal acceptable.
I wonder if we will see a Texas analogue though anti union here as a republican nation founded by Settler patriots in the Southwest?
BOO! WHAT THE HECK DID YOU ALL REVOLT FOR!
Plato did say that the best government is tyranny (in the Greek sense) by a supremely competent individual...
So a civil war between feudalism and central authority be it autocrat or a possible parliament.
This is going to be ugly. But not as much as OTL I expect.
What's the reaction to a Frenchman (as I assume the good Marqis is?) in charge of America?
So a civil war between feudalism and central authority be it autocrat or a possible parliament.
This is going to be ugly. But not as much as OTL I expect.
Louis XVI is going to have a very different reputation on the future
Indeed, and the important thing here is that the king and the royal family are on the side of the reformers. That means that Europe is not going to get involved to that great of an extent as it did in the First Coalition. It also means that we might see a French constitutional monarchy existing into the 20th century. It may even mean that Napoleon is just going to go down in history as an insanely good general, not the man who nearly conquered all of Europe.
What's the reaction to a Frenchman (as I assume the good Marqis is?) in charge of America?
A validation of "French Greatness" I would assume for the French. And the British likely red with rage. After all the colonials fiestiness over Republic and democracy, they make a Frenchman their king?!
You monster.Oh no, I've given the French justification to be even more smug! And the Brits being angry definitely will be important.
Oh God, just bing read this amazing tl. May I ask what the name of the royal dynasty of America is? It's not the most uncommon thing for people to create diffrent surnames when they achieve significant status change. How about the royal "house of America"...unless that's to plain.
Oh God, just bing read this amazing tl. May I ask what the name of the royal dynasty of America is? It's not the most uncommon thing for people to create diffrent surnames when they achieve significant status change. How about the royal "house of America"...unless that's to plain.
I think it's the House of... Gilbert...
May I ask what the name of the royal dynasty of America is?