Blue Skies in Camelot: An Alternate 60's and Beyond

I wonder what the Argentine Junta is going to think about this...
That angle depends on how they approach things. If they offer to buy/buy back the Falklands, Healy’d probably sell. Better money to put into social programmes than a vestigial outpost of Empire.

If the junta invades, though...he’d have to respond and he knows it.

Though I doubt they would. ITTL, British military expenditure seems to have been higher - they have at least one big carrier still. The junta would have to be idiots to invade.
 
That angle depends on how they approach things. If they offer to buy/buy back the Falklands, Healy’d probably sell. Better money to put into social programmes than a vestigial outpost of Empire.
Im sure the people actually on the Falklands would really not appreciate that, and the conservatives back home would use that disapproval for some great political hay
 
Im sure the people actually on the Falklands would really not appreciate that, and the conservatives back home would use that disapproval for some great political hay
As I understand it, OTL the Conservatives had been planning on divesting themselves of the Falklands but the invasion made it untenable politically. And after fighting a war for the islands...
 
Oh didnt know that...Interesting. Still would run into problems when the actual Islanders get word theyve been sold to a tinpot dictatorship
This much is true. If it did happen, then it wouldn’t happen without some kind of free relocation and compensation for the islanders.

Though this all depends on the Argentinians making any kind of offer. If they remain quiet on the issue, status quo will probably go on as is - I see Healy as making a deal if approached but not seeking the junta out - but if they invade...

There’s a TL on the site about a Falklands War where the RN still have HMS Eagle. By the end of it, the Argentinian Navy and Air Force effectively don’t exist anymore...
 
This much is true. If it did happen, then it wouldn’t happen without some kind of free relocation and compensation for the islanders.

Though this all depends on the Argentinians making any kind of offer. If they remain quiet on the issue, status quo will probably go on as is - I see Healy as making a deal if approached but not seeking the junta out - but if they invade...

There’s a TL on the site about a Falklands War where the RN still have HMS Eagle. By the end of it, the Argentinian Navy and Air Force effectively don’t exist anymore...
No effective about it the entire Argentine fleet was on the bottom. In any case the Falklands would declare independence, seize the guard ship and fight Argentina themselves before they would accept Argentine control in any TL.
 
Yeah, TTL America being more consistent with democracies likely means we won't see the CIA supporting coups to install right wing, pro Washington leaders.
 
Great update, I enjoyed it.

A small nitpick, though: the Acts of Union took place in 1707, and only covered England and Scotland, not Wales (which had been part of England since 1542).
 
President_Lincoln, I note only one mention of Australia or New Zealand throughout your complete history, thus far. Why? Are we so unimportant to the world that you only see us as mercenaries, siding with the UK in it's fight against Communism in Rhodesia?

Australia is far, far more than just that. It is the home of (arguably) the best Cricket team, the best Rugby team and the best tennis players. It is home of the "fair go for all", where governments work for the betterment of all, no matter which side of politics they hail from.

IOTL Gough Whitlam was perhaps our greatest Prime Minister, taking us into the 1970s and ending 23 years of Liberal Party rule. He was deposed of course, though muck raking and a crooked Governor-General doing the bidding of Buck House and the Liberal Party leader, Malcolm Fraser.

Since then we have supported IOTL numerous pieces of US military adventurism and ended the occupation of East Timor by Indonesia. We were one of only three economies not to suffer a recession during the GFC (Global Financial Crises) and we bailed out the Asian economies when they collapsed. We have not had a recession ourselves in over 40 years.

Surely we deserve at least an occasional mention?

Apart from that, it is a great time line and I have enjoyed reading it from the start to the finish over the last fortnight.
 
President_Lincoln, I note only one mention of Australia or New Zealand throughout your complete history, thus far. Why? Are we so unimportant to the world that you only see us as mercenaries, siding with the UK in it's fight against Communism in Rhodesia?

Australia is far, far more than just that. It is the home of (arguably) the best Cricket team, the best Rugby team and the best tennis players. It is home of the "fair go for all", where governments work for the betterment of all, no matter which side of politics they hail from.

IOTL Gough Whitlam was perhaps our greatest Prime Minister, taking us into the 1970s and ending 23 years of Liberal Party rule. He was deposed of course, though muck raking and a crooked Governor-General doing the bidding of Buck House and the Liberal Party leader, Malcolm Fraser.

Since then we have supported IOTL numerous pieces of US military adventurism and ended the occupation of East Timor by Indonesia. We were one of only three economies not to suffer a recession during the GFC (Global Financial Crises) and we bailed out the Asian economies when they collapsed. We have not had a recession ourselves in over 40 years.

Surely we deserve at least an occasional mention?

Apart from that, it is a great time line and I have enjoyed reading it from the start to the finish over the last fortnight.
Nice to meet a fellow Aussie! I'm also curious about Australia and New Zealand in TTL. I agree Gough Whitlam was our greatest Prime Minister alongside the late great Bob Hawke
 
Rickshaw and Kennedy Forever; It's because we know that Australia and New Zealand don't really exist and are just a conspiracy thought up by the British to mess with the American's and these forums don't allow discussion of such stuff... ;D

Seriously no idea, you folks stay safe and take care :)

Randy
 
Rickshaw and Kennedy Forever; It's because we know that Australia and New Zealand don't really exist and are just a conspiracy thought up by the British to mess with the American's and these forums don't allow discussion of such stuff... ;D

Seriously no idea, you folks stay safe and take care :)

Randy
Cheers Randy
 
Wasn't Whitlam the guy that was couped out by the CIA?
So, some people claim. Remember, this was 1975, only three years after Allende was "couped out by the CIA" in Chile. Personally, while I acknowledge that the CIA was mixed into Australia's politics in the day (re: Nugen-Hand Bank), ultimately, Gough's dismissal was very much a home-grown affair. Australian politics is a complex mix and Kerr's (the Governor-General) exercise of the GG's "reserve powers" was very much unknown territory for everybody concerned. While not unconstitutional it was new territory. No GG had exercised those powers before. Gough was also much an agent of his own demise. If he hadn't hesitated for a meal of Steak and Chips (French Fries to our American cousins) on 11 November 1975, he would have dismissed Kerr himself (which was in the powers of the PM). Kerr had taken illegal advice from the Chief Justice of the High Court, Sir Garfield Barwick and the leader of the Opposition - Malcolm Fraser. The end result of was that the Gough got given the sack. Fraser went on to win the General Election that was called as a consequence.

That Fraser had manufactured the circumstances which had resulted in Gough's sacking went by the wayside to the Australian public. We ended up with a Liberal (Tory) conservative government and an economic downturn until Bob Hawke (recently deceased and another great Australian PM) was elected in 1983. I was 15 years old when Gough was given the sack and I will always remember the shock that went through my household upon receipt of the news. Republicanism received a real boost as a consequence but the Liberal (Tory) conservative PM in 1999 cleverly structured the Referendum to make sure it was defeated.
 
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