Looks great!
The Liberal in me fears for Chretien's electoral future, though.
Welcome to my pain
Looks great!
The Liberal in me fears for Chretien's electoral future, though.
The NDP will Reform Party the Liberals?Predictions on Chrétien's term and future party leaders?
Immediate thoughts:*snip*
Heffer had a stronger base than his rivals, along with a more successful grassroots effort.
- Why Heffer? I know he ran in '83 IoTL, but there was a reason he only received 7-41-29, and constituency issues would have dogged him in any follow up. Hattersley would have been the natural successor had Kinnock died.
I don't see anything about that in the post.
- It wasn't the Falklands that wrecked Benn's chances IoTL, it was losing his seat.
Cartwright was loyal to Owen and Williams lost her seat.
- What happened to David Owen? Why Maclennan and not someone like John Cartwright (Chief Whip), or Shirley Williams (Party President)?
That's true, I was unsure about it myself.
- Why would the Liberals/SDP enter a Grand Coalition for AV when they could easily just wait Thatcher out as Labour ate itself and have a shot at Government? Steel was famously opposed to any deals with the Tories, whilst Owen was open to the idea.
That's SDLP, Plaid Cymru, and Sinn Fein. I'll fix the numbers.
- The numbers in the wikibox are off, and you may have to explain some of the seats (such as the Green Party?).
Mostly to the Alliance.
- Where did that 6.5% of the Labour vote go?
Shore was more likely, wasn't just an 'anti-EEC nationalist', and has a better chance of getting elected with both 'soft' left votes and 'hard' left votes. Hattersley isn't going to get it without some other PODs, but Heffer certainly won't - he's more likely to step aside and let Shore run to victory.Heffer had a stronger base than his rivals, along with a more successful grassroots effort.
You've convinced me, I'll switch to Shore.Shore was more likely, wasn't just an 'anti-EEC nationalist', and has a better chance of getting elected with both 'soft' left votes and 'hard' left votes. Hattersley isn't going to get it without some other PODs, but Heffer certainly won't - he's more likely to step aside and let Shore run to victory.
Kinnock had been an opponent of the Thatcher's leadership in the Falklands War and the Militant faction of the Labour Party (being thought to have destroyed Tony Benn's campaign for Deputy Leader).I don't see anything about that in the post.
Yes but that doesn't really answer my question about Owen.Cartwright was loyal to Owen and Williams lost her seat.
Right but it's a 16.3% swing away from the big two- with the Alliance only getting 10.9% of that, there is an unaccounted 5.4%.Mostly to the Alliance.
I could see how one would think that, I will fix it.Kinnock had been an opponent of the Thatcher's leadership in the Falklands War and the Militant faction of the Labour Party (being thought to have destroyed Tony Benn's campaign for Deputy Leader).
Which on the initial read would have implied that both factors were related to Benn's failure in the Deputy Leadership.
Perhaps he makes some comment on the Liberals that would divide the Alliance.Yes but that doesn't really answer my question about Owen.
Sorry about that, with higher turnout, minor parties get increased support.Right but it's a 16.3% swing away from the big two- with the Alliance only getting 10.9% of that, there is an unaccounted 5.4%.
Which parties (and did any of them get representation)?Sorry about that, with higher turnout, minor parties get increased support.
The SNP in Scotland, the Alliance in NI, and the Greens. Besides the SNP, none got representation.Which parties (and did any of them get representation)?
Increased environmental concerns post-Chernobyl and the race being seen as more than just the Tories and Labour gave them a boost.waht
Something this big should have really been mentioned in the update.Increased environmental concerns post-Chernobyl and the race being seen as more than just the Tories and Labour gave them a boost.
They weren't the sole party to gain in percentage, it was still quite small.Something this big should have really been mentioned in the update.
This isn't a matter of percentage, this is that the pre-split Green Party has parliamentary representation (and by the looks of it quite a bit),They weren't the sole party to gain in percentage, it was still quite small.
That's not the Greens, it's PC, Sinn Fein, and SDLP.This isn't a matter of percentage, this is that the pre-split Green Party has parliamentary representation (and by the looks of it quite a bit),
There are six seats that are shaded in the colour of the Green Party.That's not the Greens, it's PC, Sinn Fein, and SDLP.
Me like, but that's not Dave Barrett in the photo.Ed Broadbent had given the NDP their greatest success yet, even though they failed to make the Opposition. Broadbent himself was quite popular, beating both Trudeau and Mulroney in his approval. The party would need someone new to fill that gap. Seven candidates would come and announce a run.
Author Roger Lagassé doubted his potential to lead Canada, only running to raise awareness on issues. Ian Waddell, an MP from Vancouver had been Energy Critic and a supporter of aboriginal rights. Windsor-Lake St. Clair MP Howard McCurdy would be the first black parliamentary leader, and had a history as a civil rights activist. Simon De Jong was a notable supporter of disarmament and came from the party's base in Saskatchewan. The most left-wing candidate would be Steven W. Langdon, a two-term MP and economist. However, only two candidates would really have a chance. Audrey McLaughlin was the first NDP candidate to win in Yukon and was caucus chair. Dave Barrett was the former Premier of British Columbia had returned to politics, being elected in the 1988 election. Both McLaughlin and Barrett would differ on their beliefs for the party's future. McLaughlin believed that the NDP should focus on gaining seats in Quebec, giving her the support of Chambly MP Phil Edmonston (the first Dipper in Parliament from Quebec). Barrett wanted to increase the party's base in the West, with Manning's Reform eating into their support.
The first two ballots had McLaughlin and Barrett with a clear lead, with all of their other rivals left in the dust. De Jong, who had been eliminated on the second ballot, had announced his endorsement for Barrett. McLaughlin supporters suspected some deal doing on, but that argument was contradicted when she and Waddell were caught negotiating as part of a CBC documentary's microphone. This catapulted Barrett into first, gaining the support of Langdon. On the final ballot, Barrett would win a close race. The party would be divided, with Edmonston and his fellow delegates from Quebec walking out and leaving the NDP.
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Initially Edmonston sat in Parliament as an independent. However, he had wanted to start a new movement, believing that the PCs under Campbell would give up its pro-Quebec bent under Mulroney, while the Liberals and NDP had failed. Edmonston announced the formation of the new "Parti pour un meilleur Québec", or Party for Better Quebec in support of Quebec nationalism. While Edmonston had hoped to get Liberals and Tories to defect to the PPMQ (even asking Lucien Bouchard to join, which the Foreign Affairs Critic laughed at), he would be the only MP. That would be until Gilles Duceppe would win a by-election in Laurier-Sainte-Marie. The PPMQ would have one less seat than the Reform Party, but would not be the only new third party.
Paul T. Hellyer was a cabinet member under the Pearson and Trudeau ministries. He was a candidate in the infamous 1968 Liberal convention, but left the party in 1971 to form Action Canada. The party would be short lived, as Robert Stanfield asked him to join the PCs. Although he would lose his seat in 1974, he would run in the 1976 PC leadership election, losing to Joe Clark. Hellyer would remain silent from politics for a while, but would renter to run for the riding of St. Paul's. He would win, narrowly defeating Barbara McDougall. However, he would become disillusioned with Chrétien's ministry.
Mel Hurtig would also be another nationalist former Liberal. Hurtig was the publisher of the Canadian Encyclopedia and an Officer of the Order of Canada. Hellyer and Hurtig would bring back Action Canada for the 1990s. They would need someone else more high profile than a political has-been and an unknown publisher. They would reach out to the charismatic "prairie socialist" and strong candidate for the Liberal leadership in 1987, David Orchard. A charismatic rancher from Saskatchewan, Orchard would be the perfect candidate to boost their image with the NDP divided and Chrétien unpopular. Hellyer would be the party's temporary leader in Parliament, Hurtig would be a fundraiser, and Orchard would be the leader of the party and spokesperson. They would announce their new party in a press conference. Six different parties had representation in Parlament. It would be an exciting election season.