manifest destiny

  1. TunguskaStorm

    WI: Mexico Sold California to the United States, Instead of refusing.

    So, I think nose of us on here know how the Mexican-American War started. Texas had been admitted into the US as a State, after winning a revolution in Mexico only 10 years prior. This was considered an act of war by Mexico, who never recognized the Texan claim to the land. Couple this with the...
  2. TunguskaStorm

    AHC: Make Relations Better Between Americans and the Native Americans

    So, yeah, I think we can agree that life has sucked for the Native Americans over all after being absorbed into the United States. Between the Indian Removal Act to the Trail of Tears, relations haven't been the beast between American settlers and the Natives, either. So, I challenge you...
  3. An Empire of Liberty

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  4. WI: The Oregon Country becomes independent

    PoD is John McLoughlin became the leader of the Provisional Government of Oregon instead of George Abernethy (McLoughlin was a pro-independence figure in OTL). So the Provisional Government decided to declare its independence as a de facto sovereign state in order to solve the 54'40 dispute once...
  5. No Manifest Destiny

    What if the United States did not have what is called the Manifest Destiny so they do not and do not want to go past the Mississippi river. Possible POD is the offer to purchase New Orleans, the purchase goes through but not the purchase of the land West of Mississippi river. It could be they do...
  6. How much Manifest Destiny ?

    So i watched a video from Monsieur Z. In the video WW1 didnt happen and therefore the US stayed isolationist. In his scenario the US gained the unpopulated States of Canada, Cuba and northern Columbia because they didnt had any land left in the US to take away from the natives. (The difference...
  7. Napoleon53

    The Star-Spangled Expanded Universe of "What Madness Is This?"

    THE STAR-SPANGLED EXPANDED UNIVERSE OF "WHAT MADNESS IS THIS?" Due to an almost constant output of little bits of fiction written by fans of WMIT Redux: The Union Forever, dare I say one of the darkest - yet really fun and intriguing - dystopias you'll ever read (I hope you agree, at least)...
  8. USA without a Pacific coast

    Hi everyone! This is my first time posting here, but I´d like to see your thoughts on this scenario, which I think seems more or less pretty feasible. Though the POD is pre 1900, many of the questions I ask are related to post 1900 consequences, so not sure if this is in the right place...
  9. How would a US confined to east of the Mississippi develop?

    Let's assume that the Louisiana Territory is taken by Britain from France. Let's also assume that Britain and the US have friendly relations with each other as they cooperate over joint-ownership of the river. How would no Manifest Destiny across the continent affect American culture? With no...
  10. GameBawesome

    AHC: Violent Christain Theocratic State in America

    Challenge: Around 1830s to 1850s, create a violent, theocratic state in America, that is founded by Christians, such as a Baptists. And keyword, VIOLENT, so unless you want to make Mormons violent, then Deseret does not count.
  11. Manifest Destiny; United States of North America

    World in 1900 Point of Divergence: Nader Shah retains his health and military genius. World Powers by 1900: French Empire Head of state: Napoleon V Government: Constitutionally absolute monarchy Russian Empire Head of state: Paul II Government: Absolute monarchy United States of America...
  12. Napoleon53

    "What Madness Is This?" Volume I: The Union Forever
    Threadmarks: CHAPTER 1

    FORMERLY KNOWN AS "What Madness Is This?" Redux: The Union Forever, Volume I here is the first in the planned WMIT Redux Trilogy, which will feature Vol. II: Prophecies in the Dark, and Vol. III: The Pinnacle Future. WMIT, as of July, 2022, is still going strong, thanks in large part to the...
  13. Manifest Destiny if the US Could Not Reach the Pacific

    I have been wondering about this idea for a little while, and I'm trying to use it in a potential TL. So what if the US wasn't able to reach the Pacific. Like if Texas chose to remain independent (as out there as it might be) and Britain was able to gain it's entire claim in Oregon. The US is...
  14. WI: Lewis and Clark Expedition is instead a Conquistador or Cossack-esque campaign of conquest

    American Manifest Destiny was peculiar among historical conquests. Excepting other settler colonies, most conquests did not see such large-scale settlement. There are a number of demographic, political, and logistical factors as to why the U.S. conquered and then settled native land, instead of...
  15. Kerguelen

    WI: President William T. Sherman

    During the year 1884, businessman and Civil War General, William Tecumesh Sherman was a curious figure in the world of politics. He was regarded by many as the hero of the Union and the scorn of the south prompting several abolitionists and radical republicans to wonder whether or not he would...
  16. AstroRangerBeans

    Spain and Dutch Global Power and Austria in New World TL

    Hi, welcome to my new thread called "Spain and Dutch Global Power and Austria in New World" is my TL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A World where United States is different, New Amsterdam isn't exist or become New Vienna, Dutch...
  17. thisisspacejesus

    Could the United States effectively 'whiten' Mexico and Central America?

    If the United States were to gradually conquer Mexico and Central America, with at least the area of the 48 contiguous states also included, could it successfully make the people in these regions 'white'? With enough immigration from Europe and the rest of the U.S., I suspect it might be...
  18. Manifest Destiny: Lewis And Clark Vs Lovecraftian Horrors

    Is anyone here reading the comic book series Manifest Destiny by Carl Dingess and Matthew Roberts. Basically, it's the story of Lewis and Clark discovering America. But The America they investigate is a far cry from the one in our history books. I'm curious as to whether the Author is going to...
  19. American Destiny
    Threadmarks: Chapter 1 Treaty of Mexico City

    Treaty of Mexico City Signed February 2, 1848 In the name of almighty god! The United States of America and the United Mexican States animated by an sincere desire to put an end to the calamities of the war which unhappily exists between the two Republics and to establish upon a solid...
  20. WI: The United States adopted the "Siberian Fort" strategy of westward expansion?

    What if the United States' Manifest Destiny was a little bit more "Russian", and analogous to the Russian eastward expansion? In this scenario: Expansion is done by building fortresses along major points, without significant settlement until much later, akin to the Russian Ostrogs in remote...
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