Weekly Flag Challenge: Discussion & Entries

[xt828]

Please, over to you now.

Why don't we wait until the poll is closed before declaring a winner? There's still a little under 24 hours for people to vote in.

 

[King Helü of Wu]

Why don't we wait until the poll is closed before declaring a winner? There's still a little under 24 hours for people to vote in.

Sorry, I thought it's already closed.

 

[xt828]

So, for the second consecutive time we have a tie - Dom Jao II and ah-sue have equal votes. Congratulations to the both of you.

I guess you'll have to sort out between you who posts the next challenge.

 

[ah-sue]

I'm happy either way - to set the challenge or to stand down.

 

[titulus regius]

Should we go with ah-sue if there's no comment from Dom Jao II by midnight (BST) ?

 

[xt828]

Should we go with ah-sue if there's no comment from Dom Jao II by midnight (BST) ?

I've send Dom Jao II a PM, waiting to hear back.

 

[Stuyvesant]

Sooty, sleep. I have no idea about a challenge, so I hand that responsibility to ah-sue.

 

[ah-sue]

FLAG CHALLENGE 94

SOUTH GERMAN CONFEDERATION
[FONT=&quot]Design a flag for a South German Confederation (or South German Union etc) which comes into being anytime from 1815 (OTL Congress of Vienna) to 1866 (OTL Austro-Prussian War). [/FONT]Chiefly comprising Austria and Bavaria, but feel free to add in any other states in the south of Germany. Feel free to include or exclude Hungary and her attendant territories, in the latter case assuming an independent Hungary.
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[/FONT]Challenge begins: Friday 14 June
Challenge ends: Friday 21 June (midnight BST)
Voting begins: Saturday 22 June (hopefully!)
Voting ends: Saturday 23 June (midnight BST)

 

[viperhawkz]

Hehe. Now THIS I can groove to.

 

[viperhawkz]

The flag of the South German Federation, adopted in 1866 after Austria's final capitulation and subsequent incorporation into the Federation. Clashes between Munich and Vienna would mark the rest of the Federation's history...

(Includes Baden, Wurttemburg, Bavaria and Austria proper, but not Hungary, Bohemia, etc.)

Big version:

Entry version (300px):

 

[Alternatehistorybuff5341]

The Union of Southern German Kingdoms was founded in the latter half of the nineteenth century; a union between the catholic states of southern Germany, the two most powerful being the Kingdom of Bavaria and the Kingdom of Austria. The original flag was simple enough, a combination of the two kingdom's colors (Bavarian blue, Austrian red), with the Holy Roman Eagle. However, after a political revolution, the Union of Southern German States replaced the eagle with the coat of arms of the new nation...

 

[ah-sue]

Great! Two nice entries already, one suggesting (to me) that the Austrian Corporal effect exists in that timeline.

 

[viperhawkz]

The Union of Southern German Kingdoms was founded in the latter half of the nineteenth century; a union between the catholic states of southern Germany, the two most powerful being the Kingdom of Bavaria and the Kingdom of Austria. The original flag was simple enough, a combination of the two kingdom's colors (Bavarian blue, Austrian red), with the Holy Roman Eagle. However, after a political revolution, the Union of Southern German States replaced the eagle with the coat of arms of the new nation...

...Ruled by the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg!



You and I seem to have had the same idea for colours.

 

[King Helü of Wu]

This is not the entry. The entry is below.
I combined color elements from flags of the Bavaria(

), Württemberg(

), Austria(

), Bohemia(

), Moravia(

), as well as historical HRE (

) and Catholic League(

).

The result was rather interesting.



IIRC Austria didn't have a colony in China.

Standard of the Chancellor. Each state has their own Kings (Austrian Archduke as the Holy German Emperor) , but the Republic only has one Chancellor, who has the real power.

Pope's Guard Flag. Beside the Pope's own Swiss Guard, The Holy German Republic also sent a Guard Battalion to Rome in order to protect the pope from the Italians, like Napoleon III did IOTL.

 

[King Helü of Wu]

The Holy German Republic was comprised of Bavaria, Württemberg, Austria, (the German-speaking part of) Bohemia, and (the German-speaking part of) Moravia.

It also resonated back to its historic predecessors: historical Catholic League and Holy Roman Empire.

 

[xt828]

IIRC Austria didn't have a colony in China.

The had a concession in the city of Tianjin, and were a part of the Shanghai International Settlement. They also contributed troops to the suppression of the Boxer Rebellion.

 

[viperhawkz]

This is shaping up to be a good round. I can feel it.

 

[Iserlohn]

The South German Confederation was formed as one of the successors of the German Confederation in 1866, after the Austro-Prussian rivalry devolved into an outright war over the recent accession of Denmark into the Confederation. While northern Germany under Prussian leadership took over most Schleswig-Holstein afterwards, Denmark chose to part with the German states again. Southern Germany however the states who previously fought Prussia and it's allies decided to band together to form a much tighter political union which would be able to challange Prussia. So Austria, Würrtemberg, Bavaria and the rump Grand Duchy of Hessen decided to band together. Baden on the other hand decided to withdraw into neutrality to avoid future conflict.

As part of the peace treaty between the young North German Federation and the South German Confederation the transfer of Hohenzollern to Würrtemberg in exchange for Prussia annexing Saxony, large parts of Hessen and southern Hannover. North Germany, dominated by Prussia and the Hanseatic city states adopted a black-white-red tricolor. South Germany chose to adopt a flag both based on it's member states and it's legacy. The flag below was adopted in 1868, with it's colours representing it's four member states (though Hessen only indirectly, since it only joined in 1870 after a brief period of neutrality) but not directly the ruling Habsburg family as well as the Reichsadler as a symbol of consistency with the old German Confederation.

It should be noted that Austria split up to some extent after the creation of the SGC, namely that Hungary seceded from Austria (though it stayed Habsburg, just a different branch) and it took Galicia with it due to a different Ausgleich, which also led to Croatia staying with Austria (and to clarify it: all of Bohemia, Moravia and Austrian Silesia is still with Austria). Hungary-Galicia and the SGC remain allied.

So yeah... This challenge is right up my alley and I used some ideas I had for a potential reboot of "Zu Schutz und Trutz", the Danish king's proposal to join the GC in order to resolve the Schleswig-Holstein problem AND the challenge into one. I hope you like this design!

Also just a general comment: Double-headed eagles... The most iconic symbol for this sort of thing. Kinda sad that no-one pulled of something very creative here. Well, it just seems to be ideal for this

 

[titulus regius]

This challenge is getting somewhat eyry.

 

[The Professor]

And just to change things up a bit

The Flag of the South German Confederation
The SGC formed in the years following the so-called "Peace of the Austrian Succession" where the Habsburg inheritance was divided among the Wittelsbach and Wettin claimants in the west while Hungary went fully independent.
Initially an Austro-Bavarian Union the SGC extended among the other states leery of Saxon or Prussian dominance and uneasy about alliance with British Hannover.
The current red-yellow-cerulean flag replaces the red-white-cerulean of the early years.

[EDIT2 yeah, it's boring and? ]