Our Soviet Union (USSR)

[CountofDooku]

By the way, what is the impact of all of my recent intiatives aimed at preparing the army and industry for a future prolonged war?

Partially, as the situation in Europe worsenes, we will increase our expansions of forces and overall mobilisation.

EDIT Also need a new laptop/ keyboard as I can hardly see half the letters anymore thanks to them fading away, that clearly doesn't help with my dislecoa furhter....

 

[Dude-a-Buck]

Here's something for us to consider, the irl Soviet Union established the Jewish Autonomous Oblast by official decree in 1928 with it being officially established in 1934. Since we're already taking steps to maintain good relations with our religious citizens, including those in the minority, I believe this would further our cause in this area by giving a historically oppressed community it's own living space.

As to where we would establish this area, there are three possible options that come to mind...

1) The irl location in the Soviet Far East
2) The Crimean Peninsula which was considered in otl.
3) The historic Pale of Settlement on our western border

Thoughts, Comrades?

 

[CountofDooku]

Here's something for us to consider, the irl Soviet Union established the Jewish Autonomous Oblast by official decree in 1928 with it being officially established in 1934. Since we're already taking steps to maintain good relations with our religious citizens, including those in the minority, I believe this would further our cause in this area by giving a historically oppressed community it's own living space.

As to where we would establish this area, there are three possible options that come to mind...

1) The irl location in the Soviet Far East
2) The Crimean Peninsula which was considered in otl.
3) The historic Pale of Settlement on our western border

Thoughts, Comrades?

Also potentially the Bessarabian region gained from Romania.

 

[Analytical Engine]

Here's something for us to consider, the irl Soviet Union established the Jewish Autonomous Oblast by official decree in 1928 with it being officially established in 1934. Since we're already taking steps to maintain good relations with our religious citizens, including those in the minority, I believe this would further our cause in this area by giving a historically oppressed community it's own living space.

As to where we would establish this area, there are three possible options that come to mind...

1) The irl location in the Soviet Far East
2) The Crimean Peninsula which was considered in otl.
3) The historic Pale of Settlement on our western border

Thoughts, Comrades?

Whilst it might be wise to consider such a thing, should we not encourage all of our comrades to live together harmoniously, regardless of their religion?

As to the Crimea - whilst certainly significantly better than the Far East, we must not discount the views of our Muslim Tartar Comrades.

 

[panpiotr]

Whilst it might be wise to consider such a thing, should we not encourage all of our comrades to live together harmoniously, regardless of their religion?

As to the Crimea - whilst certainly significantly better than the Far East, we must not discount the views of our Muslim Tartar Comrades.

This, I think there is no need for Jewish oblast, as they are equal citizens across the Union, so why bother?

 

[panpiotr]

Here's something for us to consider, the irl Soviet Union established the Jewish Autonomous Oblast by official decree in 1928 with it being officially established in 1934. Since we're already taking steps to maintain good relations with our religious citizens, including those in the minority, I believe this would further our cause in this area by giving a historically oppressed community it's own living space.

As to where we would establish this area, there are three possible options that come to mind...

1) The irl location in the Soviet Far East
2) The Crimean Peninsula which was considered in otl.
3) The historic Pale of Settlement on our western border

Thoughts, Comrades?

You know what comrade, I change my opinion, lets vote on this, but I will also add an idea for autonomous oblast for Volga Germans, as Germany is our main ally, so it would be a good sign to Germany how we care about their brethen in USSR.

 

[Dude-a-Buck]

Also potentially the Bessarabian region gained from Romania.

I researched it after reading this and it seems the region is under Romanian occupation.

You know what comrade, I change my opinion, lets vote on this, but I will also add an idea for autonomous oblast for Volga Germans, as Germany is our main ally, so it would be a good sign to Germany how we care about their brethen in USSR.

A fair compromise. I'm willing if the others are.

 

[CountDVB]

Maybe a mix of both 1 and 2 since Huey Long was popular with the lower class and the minorities, which may lead to the socialist and communist parties in America to form a sort of coalition against the Democrats and Republicans.

I doubt it, given Huey Long has some shady aspects to him, and by some I mean quite a bit regarding the minorities and the like.

 

[CountofDooku]

You know what comrade, I change my opinion, lets vote on this, but I will also add an idea for autonomous oblast for Volga Germans, as Germany is our main ally, so it would be a good sign to Germany how we care about their brethen in USSR.

Were should that be best located? Were OTL one was?

and all ethnic German territories within the Soviet Union

 

[CountofDooku]

I researched it after reading this and it seems the region is under Romanian occupation.

For now, the Soviet Union claimed it OTL and got it quit easily, so we could do the same.

 

[panpiotr]

Were should that be best located? Were OTL one was?

Yup. Btw what is overall population of Germans within USSR?

 

[CountofDooku]

Yup. Btw what is overall population of Germans within USSR?

Roughtly between 1,427,000 to 1,539,000.

Let's vote for it then, as most ethnic minorities have their own national provicnes/ states within the Soviet Union, should the Germans and Jews be giving their own as well:
A) Yes create the Jewish SSR (Bessarabia, Crimea or another destination to later vote upon)
B) Yes create the German SSR (Volga)
C) Yes to both.
D) That is not needed.

For context:

main German settled regions (also see the map a few posts below this one).

(here we can see why Bessarabia and other closeby regions like Volhynia might be a more ideal area for it then even Crimea)

main jewish settled regions.

 

[Analytical Engine]

Roughtly between 1,427,000 to 1,539,000.

Let's vote for it then, as most ethnic minorities have their own national provicnes/ states within the Soviet Union, should the Germans and Jews be giving their own as well:
A) Yes create the Jewish SSR (Bessarabia, Crimea or another destination to later vote upon)
B) Yes create the German SSR (Volga)
C) Yes to both.
D) That is not needed.

For context:

main German settled regions (also see the map a few posts below this one).

main jewish settled regions.

B - considering that the Volga basin has such a high concentration of our German comrades already.

I am neutral to the proposition of creating a dedicated Jewish autonomous area at this time. However, if they do wish to have their own, I would support it. Of course, we should welcome any of our oppressed Jewish comrades into our Glorious Soviet Union(TM).

 

[panpiotr]

Roughtly between 1,427,000 to 1,539,000.

Let's vote for it then, as most ethnic minorities have their own national provicnes/ states within the Soviet Union, should the Germans and Jews be giving their own as well:
A) Yes create the Jewish SSR (Bessarabia, Crimea or another destination to later vote upon)
B) Yes create the German SSR (Volga)
C) Yes to both.
D) That is not needed.

For context:

main German settled regions (also see the map a few posts below this one).

main jewish settled regions.

C) Yes to both. As for Jewish SSR I vote for Crimea.

 

[Dude-a-Buck]

C) Russians, Ukrainians, Kazachs & more all have their own dedicated living space. Why not Jews & Germans?

 

[CountofDooku]

Well the overall idea for the Jewish Autonomous Oblast comes from around 1928, but some Soviet and even Jewish ideas predate that, given the massive land Russia had to offer. With us not antagonizing Judaism and Zionism TTL, a Jewish SSR could actually atract many Jewish people without a nation to call their own from all around the world, especialy when like all our SSR it gets complete internal liberty and autonomy, more so then ever before granted to many of these new and old citizens.

 

[panpiotr]

Well the overall idea for the Jewish Autonomous Oblast comes from around 1928, but some Soviet and even Jewish ideas predate that, given the massive land Russia had to offer. With us not antagonizing Judaism and Zionism TTL, a Jewish SSR could actually atract many Jewish people without a nation to call their own from all around the world, especialy when like all our SSR it gets complete internal liberty and autonomy, more so then ever before granted to many of these new and old citizens.

Well I think that we can kill 2 birds with one stone both in Germany and USA, as we would score propaganda points in Germany and with Jewish population in the US, knowing how influential they are in the US, we could use their good will in the future, for example gaining low-interest credits for our industrialisation.

 

[CountofDooku]

Well I think that we can kill 2 birds with one stone both in Germany and USA, as we would score propaganda points in Germany and with German and Jewish population in the US, knowing how influential they are in the US, we could use their good will in the future, for example gaining low-interest credits for our industrialisation.

Remember the Germans were also quit influential in the USA back in the time, either directly or over their descendants who until WW1 and partly even until WW2 were still rather proud and open about their heritage and overall conenctions to Germany and German influence back in the Old World, naturally that changed after the horrors of the World Wars and German responsibility, heck after 1945 the Austrians invented a whole new view of themselves to furhter distance themselves as a seperate state and partialy even ethnic group from mainland Germany alltogether, after before being so eager to become part of a greater Germany (partly also because they had been so supportive of the pan-German and Nazi idea before when they joined into the Reich).

 

[aurek theserian]

I doubt it, given Huey Long has some shady aspects to him, and by some I mean quite a bit regarding the minorities and the like.

i disagree about race given how mutch he and the klan came to blows,thow he is a corupt as a mob boss for better or worss,hence why he is not our ideal choice,simply better then compatent reactionarys or fdr

 

[aurek theserian]

Roughtly between 1,427,000 to 1,539,000.

Let's vote for it then, as most ethnic minorities have their own national provicnes/ states within the Soviet Union, should the Germans and Jews be giving their own as well:
A) Yes create the Jewish SSR (Bessarabia, Crimea or another destination to later vote upon)
B) Yes create the German SSR (Volga)
C) Yes to both.
D) That is not needed.

For context:

main German settled regions (also see the map a few posts below this one).

(here we can see why Bessarabia and other closeby regions like Volhynia might be a more ideal area for it then even Crimea)

main jewish settled regions.

c. yes to both btw