Would be funShe did have a younger sister called Amelia, the age difference there would only be 5 years
Well off family too, if I remember correctly.
Would be funShe did have a younger sister called Amelia, the age difference there would only be 5 years
It worked for Henry VIII and Katherine of Aragon. It's unlikely, I grant you, but not impossible!Isn't she seven years older though?
But yeah, I would like to see that match too.
Francis would likely get a Heart attack, poor dearie.It worked for Henry VIII and Katherine of Aragon. It's unlikely, I grant you, but not impossible!
First hubby died 1535.Could Christina of Denmark be a possibility? I'm pretty sure she's already a widow, since she declined the suit of king henry not that much later.
Christina is pretty unlikely (and she would elope with the Prince of Orange instead of marrying Lorraine, if anything) plus both Christina and Anne of Poland would be in a list of very much approved matches by Francis...Could Christina of Denmark be a possibility? I'm pretty sure she's already a widow, since she declined the suit of king henry not that much later.
Charles eloping with his first cousin Jeanne (just for getting her crown and freeing her from an unwanted match arranged by Francis) would be great...I have possibilities for Charles, but not for Margaret.
Jeanne of Navarre (b.1528). She's stubborn enough to stand against family disappointment for her actions.
Or, going along the reformist angle - Anne of Cleves? She's going to need a new husband, given Henry's not tiring of Anne Boleyn ITTL.
Perhaps a Scottish nobleman for Margaret? She goes to visit her sister and falls in love along the way.
But I do like the idea of Charles being the one of Francis's sons, who, despite his father's best efforts on his behalf, ends up in an unhappy, barren marriage.
Maybe instead of an elopement, maybe at least one of them goes along with an arranged match and it turns into a love match? Because after a while the gag stops being funny.
Maybe one of them is in an arranged marriage, where they start off hating each other, or thinking that they do through misunderstandings, only to figure out that they both actually like each other.
Madeleine wasn't an elopement, just not her dad's first choice. I'm leaning towards Margaret being mostly the same. The problem with Charles accepting his dad approved marriage, is that he is by far the wildest most impulsive of Francis's children. So, if the older brother's eloped, I just can't make him marry appropriately. He's refusing too.Then have Charles d’Orléans make the match with Anna of Austria that was proposed for him IOTL, become Duke of Milan, but absolutely hate his wife and have no children with her. Francis would be rolling in his grave at seeing his favorite son and the only one of his surviving children to make a dynastically suitable match also be the only one to have no legitimate children of his own.
But maybe I can propose a different Anna as possible bride and with hopefully more happiness in the marriage.
Anna Jagellion, third daughter of Sigismund the Old and Bona Sforza, born 1523.
Jeanne of Navarre (b.1528). She's stubborn enough to stand against family disappointment for her actions.
Or, going along the reformist angle - Anne of Cleves? She's going to need a new husband, given Henry's not tiring of Anne Boleyn ITTL.
She did have a younger sister called Amelia, the age difference there would only be 5 years
Really great suggestions, I love Jeanne d'Albert and would love to do more with her. Though I notice there were no truly out of line suggestions for Charles. Looking at his OTL self I was thinking he'd make the worst choice in bride.Charles eloping with his first cousin Jeanne (just for getting her crown and freeing her from an unwanted match arranged by Francis) would be great...
Just to mess with Francis, why not some outright protestant for both?
Charles need someone aristocratic or very rich...
I also like this idea, but I just can't get Charles too. OTL he died after running into a plague house; he's idiotic impulsivity personified. I'm having trouble making him pick a reasonable bride.But I do like the idea of Charles being the one of Francis's sons, who, despite his father's best efforts on his behalf, ends up in an unhappy, barren marriage.
Maybe just create a maid out of nowhere and have him mary her on a whim after getting her pregnantAnyone have any suggestions for some truly inappropriate brides for Charles?
Hmm....Anyone have any suggestions for some truly inappropriate brides for Charles?
Margaret of Parma would be hilarious.Don't know about inappropriate exactly, but for one guaranteed to tee off Francis to a fare-thee-well, what about Margaret of Parma? She's in roughly the right age range, she is Charles' bastard and the hash that will make of the situation in Italy could be very interesting.
Never seen a King do a Spit Take before...I may have found a VERY inappropriate bride for Charles. But I am not sure how you'd work her in. Dorothy Lansey (b. circa 1512). Quite apart from her age, which is about a decade older than Charles - she's the illegitimate daughter of Cardinal Wolsey and his mistress Joan Larkin, and was originally a nun at Shaftesbury Abbey before the Dissolution of the Monasteries put paid to that.
Er... That's lost on me, I am afraid.....Never seen a King do a Spit Take before...
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Anyone have any suggestions for some truly inappropriate brides for Charles?
Mihrimah Sultan, Princess of the Ottoman Empire, born 1523.