Fun fact, Schmitz's daughter was Mary Kay Letourneau. Yes, that one...
List of Alternate Presidents and PMs II
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Fun fact, Schmitz's daughter was Mary Kay Letourneau. Yes, that one...
Marching to a Different Tune: Britannia Part 1
Merry Old England
or
The Good Ones
Britain's parties are varied and somewhat confusing to American and other observers; the Radical Progress Party are a social democratic party with socialist and social liberal wings, considered the dominant party since the 70s they have established a status quo of social democracy and racial equality, they see themselves as the true heirs of both the Liberal and Labour parties although this is contested by... The Free Unionists, opposed to devolution but otherwise rather syncretic and divided. Some wings are socially liberal, others socially conservative, most accept the social democratic status quo but others seek a freer market, certainly more isolationist than most other parties they are nevertheless seen as wholly "moderate", they too see themselves as the sons of Liberals as do... Freedom Forever, now languishing and banished from parliaments, they are what little remains of the "Lloyd-Georgian" Freedom Party, established after the split of the Liberals in 1918. Whilst technically adhering to "New Liberal" policies, since their reformation they have truthfully been Libertarian. Farmer-Labour are the only major party without a liberal heritage, moulded as much after the now firmly DeLeonist american Farmer Labor Party as their predecessors in Labour, they seek to bring radical socialism to the UK and have often gotten closer than you might think. Finally the Technocratic "Forward!" are a new force in British politics but want to bring "scientific" government to Britain and the commonwealth whilst the "People's Movement" is an authoritarian, far right movement famous for little more than their founder and sole MP, pseudo-fascist rabble rouser Pat Morrissey.
Utopia rating: 7/10
1917-1922 Christopher Addison (Liberal, then "Government" Liberal-"Progressive" Labour Coalition)
def. 1918 Frederick Smith (Conservative and Unionist), David Lloyd George ("Rebel" Liberal), James Parker ("Progressive" Labour), William Anderson ("Socialist" Labour)
1922-1923 Sir Edward Carson (Conservative and Unionist)
1923-1926 James Parker (Radical Liberal/Progressive Labour Alliance)
1926-1934 F.D. Acland (Radical Progress)
def. 1927 Sir Edward Carson (Conservative and Unionist), David Lloyd George (Freedom), Tom Johnston (Worker's and Farmers')
def. 1932 Sir Edward Carson (British Union), Tom Johnston (Farmer-Labour), Gwendolyn Lloyd George (Freedom)
1934-1948 Megan Lloyd George (Freedom minority, later majority)
def. 1934 F.D. Acland (RadProg) Harry Crookshank (British Union) James Shillaker (Farmer-Labour)
def. 1939 Harry Crookshank (British Union) Nye Bevan (RadProg) Wilfred Witelley (Farmer-Labour)
def. 1944 Osbert Peake (British Union) Eric Blair (Farmer-Labour) Nye Bevan (RadProg)
1948-1949 John Keynes (Freedom minority, later majority)
1949-1960 Robert Eden (British Union)
def. 1949 Hugh Dalton (RadProg) John Keynes (Freedom) Eric Blair (Farmer-Labour)
def. 1954 Hugh Dalton (RadProg) Eric Lubbock (Freedom) Ethel Mannin (Farmer-Labour)
def. 1959 Hugh Dalton (RadProg) Ethel Mannin (Farmer-Labour) Eric Lubbock (Freedom)
1960-1964 Iain Macleod (British Union)
1964-1975 Cledwyn Hughes (Radical Progress)
def. 1964 Ethel Mannin (Farmer-Labour) Robert Eden (British Union) Harold Macmillan (Freedom)
def. 1969 Harold Macmillan (Freedom) Ethel Mannin (Farmer-Labour) David Hunt (British Union)
def. 1974 (May) Harold Macmillan (Freedom) David Hunt (British Union) Ethel Mannin (Farmer-Labour)
def. 1974 (December) Peter Walker (British Union) George Brown (Freedom) Ted Grant (Farmer-Labour)
1975-1990 Winston Healey (Radical Progress)
def. 1979 Hugh Fraser (British Union) George Brown (Freedom) Ted Grant (Farmer-Labour)
def. 1984 George Brown (Freedom) Hugh Fraser (British Union) Andrew Murray (Farmer-Labour)
def. 1989 David Steel (Freedom) Andrew Murray (Farmer-Labour) Peter Thorneycroft (Unionist)
1990-1992 Gordon Brown (Radical Progress)
1992-1995 Leo Blair Jr (Freedom/British Union Coalition, later Free Unionist)
def. 1992 Gordon Brown (Radical Progress) Eric Joyce (Farmer-Labour) Bill Cash (Unionist)
1995-2001 Malcolm Bruce (Free Unionist)
def. 1997 Gordon Brown (Radical Progress), John McDonnell (Farmer-Labour), David Lloyd George III (Freedom Forever)
2001-2005 Gordon Brown (Radical Progress/Farmer-Labour Alliance)
def. 2001 Malcolm Bruce (Free Unionist), David Lloyd George III (Freedom Forever) Harpal Brar (Farmer-Labour),
2005-2012 Laura Sandys (Free Unionist)
def. 2007 Gordon Brown (Radical Progress), Ella Rule (Farmer-Labour), Reeve Musk (Forward!), David Lloyd George III (Freedom Forever)
2012-Present Justine Thornton (Radical Progress)
def. 2012 Laura Sandys (Free Unionist), Ella Rule (Farmer-Labour), Reeve Musk (Forward!), Pat Morrissey (People's Movement)
def. 2017 Shane Legg (Forward!), Steve Hilton (Free Unionist), Nina Temple (Farmer-Labour), Pat Morrisey (People's Movement)
When the revolution came for Britain, it didn't come in fire and blood but in song and strike. The General Strike of 1921, with the explicit support of the young but radical Prince Edward crashed not one but two governments and, following the Purple Election of 1921, ushered in a radical government of socialist reform. Unlike in Russia, where Leninism created the Eurasian Union, or France where the Sorelians created a militant, national syndicalist state, Britain's revolution blossomed into the Popular Commonwealth of Britain and Ireland. A repesentitive, non-partisan democracy run by a directly elected Chamber of the People and a Union-run (but still elective) TUC. By 2018 the PCBI is one of the world's superpowers but a quiet and background one, her head of Government, the First Citizen, is elected for long terms but has little actual power other than appointing the cabinet who in turn od most if not all of the governing. Out of tradition, there is a soft limit of 3 terms. For many years the First Citizen was in name independent however when the factions within the Chamber became more and more outspoken, Anthony Benn ran openly as a candidate of the Guild and TUSC factions, starting official party politics at the top.
The Guild Socialists are Libertarian Socialists and Internationalists, in favour of cooperative economics and workplace democracy, often seen as the "Natural Ruling Party", they are usually the largest faction and it is their ideology to which the Commonwealth most closely sticks. The United Centralists are the children of the ILP, openly Marxist and in favour of a more active, powerful central government, they are considered the main opposition as well as somewhat pro-Militarist and social conservative. Reform were once a powerful faction but now tend to take a backseat, the most openly feminist faction they are also the most right wing and favour only gradual steps to socialism as well as Detente with the Capitalist world. Finally TUSC are an alliance of trade unionists and syndicalists who stick near to the Guild in recent years but favour a more radical and openly syndicalist economy as well as the strengthening of the TUC and are broadly pacifist.
Utopia rating 8.9/10
First Citizens of the Popular Commonwealth of the British Isles
1921-1942 Edward "Red Ed" Windsor (Popular Front then Independent, unofficially Guild)
def. 1921 unopposed
def. 1928 various (Independent)
def. 1935 James Campbell (Centralist), Fmr General Clem Attlee (Reform)
1942-1949 Chuter Ede (Independent, unofficially Centralist)
def. 1942 William Beveridge (Guild), A.V. Alexander (Reform), EJB Allen (Trade Unionist/Syndicalist Coalition), John Gollan (Communitarian)
1949-1956 B.A.W. Russell (Independent, unofficially Guild/Reform)
def. 1949 Chuter Ede (Centralist), EJB Allen (TUSC), Joan Beachamp (Communitarian)
1956-1977 Richard Acland (Independent, unofficially Guild/Reform)
def. 1956 Dennis Healey (Centralist/Communitarian Alliance), EJB Allen (TUSC)
def. 1963 Dennis Healey (United Centralist), Anthony Benn (TUSC)
def. 1970 Jim Prior (United Centralist), Joseph Dean (TUSC)
1977-1998 Anthony Benn (Guild/TUSC)
def. 1977 Dick Tavern (Reform), Josephine McAliskey (United Centralist)
def. 1984 Dennis Thatcher (Reform), Andy Brooks (United Centralist)
def. 1991 Andy Brooks (United Centralist), Deborah Schabert (Reform)
1998-2012 Tilda Swinton (United Centralist)
def. 1998 Dr Gordon Brown (Guild), Jeremy Corbyn (TUSC), Rebecca Williams (Reform)
def. 2005 Dr Gordon Brown (Guild/TUSC/Reform Alliance)
2012-Present Hillary Benn (Guild/TUSC/Reform "Grand Alliance")
def. 2012 Tilda Swinton (United Centralist)
(There was going to be more but it took me so bloody long to finish these 2, so this is what you get, enjoy!)
Merry Old England
or
The Good Ones
Land of Hope and Glory
The British Empire is a paragon of liberal order. Stretching over every continent and almost entirely unchallenged in her dominance, the rapid victory of her forces in the Great European War of 1914-1915 cemented an imperial authority that had existed for a century. Now, more than 2 centuries into Pax Britannica, the world exists in the form of Great Britain. The isolationist united states is one of the world's few republics and Russia one of her few autocracies; a system of global constitutional monarchy are united by the Council of Nations and the kindly but firm hand of the British Commonwealth, world police. The state is openly liberal and human rights are plentiful, though military service is mandatory for 2 years and devotion to the state is common. Internationally peace has reigned since the Great European War and decolonisation, whilst slow, resulted in stable democracies across Africa. The UK's close friends, the Indian Empire, Chinese Republic, Japanese Republic and French Kingdom all have similar, multi-party parliamentary systems and help sustain this status quo. It is rare for Britain not to be at war with one rebel group or another, be it religious fundamentalists in India, Communists across Africa and Fascists in South America, she is always ready to burst onto the scene and deliver a short sharp shock of English decency and democracy, whether the locals asked for it or not.
The British Empire is a paragon of liberal order. Stretching over every continent and almost entirely unchallenged in her dominance, the rapid victory of her forces in the Great European War of 1914-1915 cemented an imperial authority that had existed for a century. Now, more than 2 centuries into Pax Britannica, the world exists in the form of Great Britain. The isolationist united states is one of the world's few republics and Russia one of her few autocracies; a system of global constitutional monarchy are united by the Council of Nations and the kindly but firm hand of the British Commonwealth, world police. The state is openly liberal and human rights are plentiful, though military service is mandatory for 2 years and devotion to the state is common. Internationally peace has reigned since the Great European War and decolonisation, whilst slow, resulted in stable democracies across Africa. The UK's close friends, the Indian Empire, Chinese Republic, Japanese Republic and French Kingdom all have similar, multi-party parliamentary systems and help sustain this status quo. It is rare for Britain not to be at war with one rebel group or another, be it religious fundamentalists in India, Communists across Africa and Fascists in South America, she is always ready to burst onto the scene and deliver a short sharp shock of English decency and democracy, whether the locals asked for it or not.
Britain's parties are varied and somewhat confusing to American and other observers; the Radical Progress Party are a social democratic party with socialist and social liberal wings, considered the dominant party since the 70s they have established a status quo of social democracy and racial equality, they see themselves as the true heirs of both the Liberal and Labour parties although this is contested by... The Free Unionists, opposed to devolution but otherwise rather syncretic and divided. Some wings are socially liberal, others socially conservative, most accept the social democratic status quo but others seek a freer market, certainly more isolationist than most other parties they are nevertheless seen as wholly "moderate", they too see themselves as the sons of Liberals as do... Freedom Forever, now languishing and banished from parliaments, they are what little remains of the "Lloyd-Georgian" Freedom Party, established after the split of the Liberals in 1918. Whilst technically adhering to "New Liberal" policies, since their reformation they have truthfully been Libertarian. Farmer-Labour are the only major party without a liberal heritage, moulded as much after the now firmly DeLeonist american Farmer Labor Party as their predecessors in Labour, they seek to bring radical socialism to the UK and have often gotten closer than you might think. Finally the Technocratic "Forward!" are a new force in British politics but want to bring "scientific" government to Britain and the commonwealth whilst the "People's Movement" is an authoritarian, far right movement famous for little more than their founder and sole MP, pseudo-fascist rabble rouser Pat Morrissey.
Utopia rating: 7/10
1917-1922 Christopher Addison (Liberal, then "Government" Liberal-"Progressive" Labour Coalition)
def. 1918 Frederick Smith (Conservative and Unionist), David Lloyd George ("Rebel" Liberal), James Parker ("Progressive" Labour), William Anderson ("Socialist" Labour)
1922-1923 Sir Edward Carson (Conservative and Unionist)
1923-1926 James Parker (Radical Liberal/Progressive Labour Alliance)
1926-1934 F.D. Acland (Radical Progress)
def. 1927 Sir Edward Carson (Conservative and Unionist), David Lloyd George (Freedom), Tom Johnston (Worker's and Farmers')
def. 1932 Sir Edward Carson (British Union), Tom Johnston (Farmer-Labour), Gwendolyn Lloyd George (Freedom)
1934-1948 Megan Lloyd George (Freedom minority, later majority)
def. 1934 F.D. Acland (RadProg) Harry Crookshank (British Union) James Shillaker (Farmer-Labour)
def. 1939 Harry Crookshank (British Union) Nye Bevan (RadProg) Wilfred Witelley (Farmer-Labour)
def. 1944 Osbert Peake (British Union) Eric Blair (Farmer-Labour) Nye Bevan (RadProg)
1948-1949 John Keynes (Freedom minority, later majority)
1949-1960 Robert Eden (British Union)
def. 1949 Hugh Dalton (RadProg) John Keynes (Freedom) Eric Blair (Farmer-Labour)
def. 1954 Hugh Dalton (RadProg) Eric Lubbock (Freedom) Ethel Mannin (Farmer-Labour)
def. 1959 Hugh Dalton (RadProg) Ethel Mannin (Farmer-Labour) Eric Lubbock (Freedom)
1960-1964 Iain Macleod (British Union)
1964-1975 Cledwyn Hughes (Radical Progress)
def. 1964 Ethel Mannin (Farmer-Labour) Robert Eden (British Union) Harold Macmillan (Freedom)
def. 1969 Harold Macmillan (Freedom) Ethel Mannin (Farmer-Labour) David Hunt (British Union)
def. 1974 (May) Harold Macmillan (Freedom) David Hunt (British Union) Ethel Mannin (Farmer-Labour)
def. 1974 (December) Peter Walker (British Union) George Brown (Freedom) Ted Grant (Farmer-Labour)
1975-1990 Winston Healey (Radical Progress)
def. 1979 Hugh Fraser (British Union) George Brown (Freedom) Ted Grant (Farmer-Labour)
def. 1984 George Brown (Freedom) Hugh Fraser (British Union) Andrew Murray (Farmer-Labour)
def. 1989 David Steel (Freedom) Andrew Murray (Farmer-Labour) Peter Thorneycroft (Unionist)
1990-1992 Gordon Brown (Radical Progress)
1992-1995 Leo Blair Jr (Freedom/British Union Coalition, later Free Unionist)
def. 1992 Gordon Brown (Radical Progress) Eric Joyce (Farmer-Labour) Bill Cash (Unionist)
1995-2001 Malcolm Bruce (Free Unionist)
def. 1997 Gordon Brown (Radical Progress), John McDonnell (Farmer-Labour), David Lloyd George III (Freedom Forever)
2001-2005 Gordon Brown (Radical Progress/Farmer-Labour Alliance)
def. 2001 Malcolm Bruce (Free Unionist), David Lloyd George III (Freedom Forever) Harpal Brar (Farmer-Labour),
2005-2012 Laura Sandys (Free Unionist)
def. 2007 Gordon Brown (Radical Progress), Ella Rule (Farmer-Labour), Reeve Musk (Forward!), David Lloyd George III (Freedom Forever)
2012-Present Justine Thornton (Radical Progress)
def. 2012 Laura Sandys (Free Unionist), Ella Rule (Farmer-Labour), Reeve Musk (Forward!), Pat Morrissey (People's Movement)
def. 2017 Shane Legg (Forward!), Steve Hilton (Free Unionist), Nina Temple (Farmer-Labour), Pat Morrisey (People's Movement)
When the revolution came for Britain, it didn't come in fire and blood but in song and strike. The General Strike of 1921, with the explicit support of the young but radical Prince Edward crashed not one but two governments and, following the Purple Election of 1921, ushered in a radical government of socialist reform. Unlike in Russia, where Leninism created the Eurasian Union, or France where the Sorelians created a militant, national syndicalist state, Britain's revolution blossomed into the Popular Commonwealth of Britain and Ireland. A repesentitive, non-partisan democracy run by a directly elected Chamber of the People and a Union-run (but still elective) TUC. By 2018 the PCBI is one of the world's superpowers but a quiet and background one, her head of Government, the First Citizen, is elected for long terms but has little actual power other than appointing the cabinet who in turn od most if not all of the governing. Out of tradition, there is a soft limit of 3 terms. For many years the First Citizen was in name independent however when the factions within the Chamber became more and more outspoken, Anthony Benn ran openly as a candidate of the Guild and TUSC factions, starting official party politics at the top.
The Guild Socialists are Libertarian Socialists and Internationalists, in favour of cooperative economics and workplace democracy, often seen as the "Natural Ruling Party", they are usually the largest faction and it is their ideology to which the Commonwealth most closely sticks. The United Centralists are the children of the ILP, openly Marxist and in favour of a more active, powerful central government, they are considered the main opposition as well as somewhat pro-Militarist and social conservative. Reform were once a powerful faction but now tend to take a backseat, the most openly feminist faction they are also the most right wing and favour only gradual steps to socialism as well as Detente with the Capitalist world. Finally TUSC are an alliance of trade unionists and syndicalists who stick near to the Guild in recent years but favour a more radical and openly syndicalist economy as well as the strengthening of the TUC and are broadly pacifist.
Utopia rating 8.9/10
First Citizens of the Popular Commonwealth of the British Isles
1921-1942 Edward "Red Ed" Windsor (Popular Front then Independent, unofficially Guild)
def. 1921 unopposed
def. 1928 various (Independent)
def. 1935 James Campbell (Centralist), Fmr General Clem Attlee (Reform)
1942-1949 Chuter Ede (Independent, unofficially Centralist)
def. 1942 William Beveridge (Guild), A.V. Alexander (Reform), EJB Allen (Trade Unionist/Syndicalist Coalition), John Gollan (Communitarian)
1949-1956 B.A.W. Russell (Independent, unofficially Guild/Reform)
def. 1949 Chuter Ede (Centralist), EJB Allen (TUSC), Joan Beachamp (Communitarian)
1956-1977 Richard Acland (Independent, unofficially Guild/Reform)
def. 1956 Dennis Healey (Centralist/Communitarian Alliance), EJB Allen (TUSC)
def. 1963 Dennis Healey (United Centralist), Anthony Benn (TUSC)
def. 1970 Jim Prior (United Centralist), Joseph Dean (TUSC)
1977-1998 Anthony Benn (Guild/TUSC)
def. 1977 Dick Tavern (Reform), Josephine McAliskey (United Centralist)
def. 1984 Dennis Thatcher (Reform), Andy Brooks (United Centralist)
def. 1991 Andy Brooks (United Centralist), Deborah Schabert (Reform)
1998-2012 Tilda Swinton (United Centralist)
def. 1998 Dr Gordon Brown (Guild), Jeremy Corbyn (TUSC), Rebecca Williams (Reform)
def. 2005 Dr Gordon Brown (Guild/TUSC/Reform Alliance)
2012-Present Hillary Benn (Guild/TUSC/Reform "Grand Alliance")
def. 2012 Tilda Swinton (United Centralist)
(There was going to be more but it took me so bloody long to finish these 2, so this is what you get, enjoy!)
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BlackentheBorg
Banned
Let The Sunshine In
1969-1977: Eugene McCarthy/Frank Church
defeated Richard Nixon/Spario Agnew, George Wallace/Curtis LeMay
defeated John Ashbrook/Dewey F. Bartlett
1977-1981: Raymond Shafer/Walter Hickel
defeated Thomas Eagleton/Birch Bayh
1981-1985: George McGovern/Dale Bumpers
defeated Raymond Shafer/Walter Hickel
1985-1993: Edward Brooke/Clara A. Hills
defeated George McGovern/Dale Bumpers, Pete McCloskey/John B. Anderson
defeated Bill Clinton/George J. Mitchell
1993-1997: Clara A. Hills/Bill Weld
defeated Al Gore/Tom Harkin
1997-2001: Wendell Ford/Maurice Hinchey
defeated Clara A. Hills/Bill Weld
2001-2005: Colin Powell/Ben Nighthorse Campbell
defeated Wendell Ford/Maurice Hinchey
2005-2017: Paul Wellstone/Dick Gephardt
defeated Colin Powell/Ben Nighthorse Campbell
defeated Olympia Snowe/Jon Huntsman Jr.
2017-????: Cedric Richmond/Zephyr Teachout
defeated Condoleezza Rice/Gary Johnson
BEWARE! This world may appear great, but it...no, wait, um, this is pretty good, actually!
Dystopian rating 0.5/5
1969-1977: Eugene McCarthy/Frank Church
defeated Richard Nixon/Spario Agnew, George Wallace/Curtis LeMay
defeated John Ashbrook/Dewey F. Bartlett
1977-1981: Raymond Shafer/Walter Hickel
defeated Thomas Eagleton/Birch Bayh
1981-1985: George McGovern/Dale Bumpers
defeated Raymond Shafer/Walter Hickel
1985-1993: Edward Brooke/Clara A. Hills
defeated George McGovern/Dale Bumpers, Pete McCloskey/John B. Anderson
defeated Bill Clinton/George J. Mitchell
1993-1997: Clara A. Hills/Bill Weld
defeated Al Gore/Tom Harkin
1997-2001: Wendell Ford/Maurice Hinchey
defeated Clara A. Hills/Bill Weld
2001-2005: Colin Powell/Ben Nighthorse Campbell
defeated Wendell Ford/Maurice Hinchey
2005-2017: Paul Wellstone/Dick Gephardt
defeated Colin Powell/Ben Nighthorse Campbell
defeated Olympia Snowe/Jon Huntsman Jr.
2017-????: Cedric Richmond/Zephyr Teachout
defeated Condoleezza Rice/Gary Johnson
BEWARE! This world may appear great, but it...no, wait, um, this is pretty good, actually!
Dystopian rating 0.5/5
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I assume Glenn Jacobs will be running against Johnson in 2028
Shouting the Battle Cry of Freedom
Lincoln never gets shot and is thus able to carry Reconstruction successfully to term. President Julian cemented gains for African-Americans, and passed a constitutional amendment allowing for women's suffrage. With reformists in control of the Republican Party, the U.S moved steadily in a socially progressive direction. The Panic of 1890 saw the rise of the Populists and the collapse of the Republican Party into rival factions. While the Populists implemented several programs aiding farmers and workers; internal corruption ultimately damaged the party brand. Working class Americans fled to the Socialist Party of Eugene Debs. Debs implemented large-scale antipoverty programs and shifted America to a collective bargaining based economy. The Progressives, a splinter faction of Republicans, emerged in 1912 as America's second major party. While acquiescing to the Debs reforms; they were still considered the more right-wing party. After America joined the World Federation in 1990; the Presidency became a largely ceremonial position. Presidents are now elected on a non-partisan basis. The exception to this rule was the election of Sean Hannity in 2008. Hannity called for America to withdraw from the World Federation but he lost re-election after a referendum in which Americans overwhelmingly voted to remain in the Federation.
1861-1869 Abraham Lincoln/Hannibal Hamlin (Republican)
1869-1877 George Washington Julian/Charles Francis Adams (Republican)
1877-1885 Frederick Douglass/Susan B. Anthony (Republican)
1885-1893 Belva Lockwood/Marietta Stow (Republican)
1893-1901 James B. Weaver/James Field (Populist)
1901-1913 Eugene Debs/Job Harriman (Socialist)
1913-1921 Theodore Roosevelt/Hiram Johnson (Progressive)
1921-1929 William Haywood/W.E.B Dubois (Socialist)
1929-1937 Alice Paul/Oswald Garrison Villard (Progressive)
1937-1945 Mary Bethune/Upton Sinclair (Socialist)
1945-1953 William O'Douglas/Earl Warren (Progressive)
1953-1961 Helen Gahagan/Alan Seeger (Socialist)
1961-1969 George Aiken/Thurgood Marshall (Progressive)
1969-1977 Bayard Rustin/Betty Friedan (Socialist)
1977-1985 Arthur Schlesinger/Fred Rogers (Progressive)
1985-1993 Gloria Steinem/Harvey Milk (Socialist)
1993-2009 Morgan Freeman/Helen Prejean (Independent)
2009- 2013 Sean Hannity/Laura Ingraham (We're Not Racist)
2013-2017 Roger Tsien/Dwayne Johnson (Independent)
2017-present Dwayne Johnson/Craig Venter (Independent)
Lincoln never gets shot and is thus able to carry Reconstruction successfully to term. President Julian cemented gains for African-Americans, and passed a constitutional amendment allowing for women's suffrage. With reformists in control of the Republican Party, the U.S moved steadily in a socially progressive direction. The Panic of 1890 saw the rise of the Populists and the collapse of the Republican Party into rival factions. While the Populists implemented several programs aiding farmers and workers; internal corruption ultimately damaged the party brand. Working class Americans fled to the Socialist Party of Eugene Debs. Debs implemented large-scale antipoverty programs and shifted America to a collective bargaining based economy. The Progressives, a splinter faction of Republicans, emerged in 1912 as America's second major party. While acquiescing to the Debs reforms; they were still considered the more right-wing party. After America joined the World Federation in 1990; the Presidency became a largely ceremonial position. Presidents are now elected on a non-partisan basis. The exception to this rule was the election of Sean Hannity in 2008. Hannity called for America to withdraw from the World Federation but he lost re-election after a referendum in which Americans overwhelmingly voted to remain in the Federation.
1861-1869 Abraham Lincoln/Hannibal Hamlin (Republican)
1869-1877 George Washington Julian/Charles Francis Adams (Republican)
1877-1885 Frederick Douglass/Susan B. Anthony (Republican)
1885-1893 Belva Lockwood/Marietta Stow (Republican)
1893-1901 James B. Weaver/James Field (Populist)
1901-1913 Eugene Debs/Job Harriman (Socialist)
1913-1921 Theodore Roosevelt/Hiram Johnson (Progressive)
1921-1929 William Haywood/W.E.B Dubois (Socialist)
1929-1937 Alice Paul/Oswald Garrison Villard (Progressive)
1937-1945 Mary Bethune/Upton Sinclair (Socialist)
1945-1953 William O'Douglas/Earl Warren (Progressive)
1953-1961 Helen Gahagan/Alan Seeger (Socialist)
1961-1969 George Aiken/Thurgood Marshall (Progressive)
1969-1977 Bayard Rustin/Betty Friedan (Socialist)
1977-1985 Arthur Schlesinger/Fred Rogers (Progressive)
1985-1993 Gloria Steinem/Harvey Milk (Socialist)
1993-2009 Morgan Freeman/Helen Prejean (Independent)
2009- 2013 Sean Hannity/Laura Ingraham (We're Not Racist)
2013-2017 Roger Tsien/Dwayne Johnson (Independent)
2017-present Dwayne Johnson/Craig Venter (Independent)
45. Donald Trump / Mike Pence (Republican): 2017-2021
Def. 2016: Hillary Clinton / Tim Kaine (Democratic), Gary Johnson / Bill Weld (Libertarian)
46. Elizabeth Warren / Steve Bullock (Democratic): 2021-2029
Def. 2020: Donald Trump / Mike Pence (Republican), John Kasich / John Hickenlooper (American Unity)
Def. 2024: Mike Pence / Nikki Haley (Republican), Steve Bannon / Sarah Palin (American Nationalist)
47. Steve Bullock / Kirsten Gillibrand (Democratic): 2029-2033
Def. 2028: Rand Paul / Mike Lee (Republican), Donald Trump Jr. / Steve Scalise (American Nationalist)
48. George P. Bush / Tim Scott (Republican): 2033-2037
Def. 2032: Steve Bullock / Kirsten Gillibrand (Democratic), Jeff Merkley / Tulsi Gabbard (Progressive), Steve Scalise / Ann Coulter (American Nationalist)
49. Tom Cotton / Tim Scott (American Nationalist / Republican)[1]: 2037-2041
Def. 2036: George P. Bush / Tim Scott (Republican), Kirsten Gillibrand / Tim Ryan (Democratic), Tulsi Gabbard / Keith Ellison (Progressive)
50. Tim Ryan / Tulsi Gabbard (Progressive Democratic Party) 2041-Incumbent
Def. 2040: Tom Cotton / Tim Scott (Republican Nationalists)
[1]= Electoral Deadlock caused Conservative Republicans and American Nationalists in the House to come together and pick Tom Cotton for President. The same was done in the Senate and Tim Scott Remained Vice President rather than Cotton's running mate, Matt Drudge becoming VP.
BlackentheBorg
Banned
Barber: "What do you want?"
America in the 70's: "Just fuck my shit up."
Barber: "Say no more fam."
Eve of Destruction
Presidents of the United States
1969-1971: Richard Nixon/Spiro Agnew (Republican)
defeated Hubert Humphrey/Ed Muskie (Democratic), George Wallace/Curtis LeMay (American Independent)
1971-1971: Spiro Agnew/[vacant]
1971-1972: Spiro Agnew/John N. Mitchell
1972-1973: John N. Mitchell/Anthony Imperiale
1973-1973: [disputed]
1973-1977: Edward Muskie/Nelson Rockefeller (Unity)
defeated Edward Muskie/Terry Sanford, Nelson Rockefeller/Gerald Ford (Republican), William Westmoreland/Ben Bubar (Independent)
1977-1981: Edward Muskie/Ralph Yarborough
defeated Gerald Ford/Howard Baker
1981-1989: George H.W. Bush/Bob Dole
defeated Ralph Yarborough/Reuben Askew, John B. Anderson/Ralph Nader (Independent)
defeated Jimmy Hoffa/Lane Kirkland
1989-1997: Charlie Wilson/Don Riegle
defeated Bob Dole/Dick Cheney, Mike Gravel/Nancy Lord (Independent)
defeated Ross Perot/Lamar Alexander
1997-2001: Linda Chavez/Pete Wilson
defeated Skip Humphrey/Joe Lieberman
Chairpeople of the Costal Republic of America/Californian Free Coast (1972-1986)
1972-1972: Timothy Leary (Independent/Heads for Peace) [disputed]
1972-1977: Abbot Hoffman/Diana Oughton (Yippie)
defeated Bernardine Dohrn/Michael Klonsky (Revolutionary Youth Movement), Ted Gold/scattered (Watermelon RYM), Timothy Leary/Margaret Howe Lovatt (Heads for Peace), Gus Hall/Jarvis Tyner (CPUSA), Murray Bookchin/[none] (Anarchist)
1977-1985: Angela Davis/Linda Jenness (Peace & Common Sense)
defeated Angela Davis/scattered [Peoples Party], Abbot Hoffman/Diana Oughton (Yippie), Linda Jenness/Gloria Steinem (All Freedoms Now), Bernardine Dohrn/Michael Klonsky (Revolutionary Youth Movement), Murray Bookchin/[none] (Anarchist)
defeated Diana Oughton/David Dellinger (Yippie), Gloria Steinem/Rennie Davis (No More!), Murray Bookchin/[none] (Anarchist)
1985-1986: Thomas Hayden/Patricia Hearst (No More!)
defeated Linda Jenness/Henning Blomen (Peace & Common Sense), Diana Oughton/Bernadine Dohrn (Yippie/Revolutionary Youth Movement fusion), Murray Bookchin/[none] (Anarchist), Margaret Howe Lovatt/Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh (Heads for Peace)
1986-1986: Patricia Hearst/[vacant] (No More!) [disputed]
1986-1986: [vacant]
1986-1986: Bob Dornan (U.S.-government supported caretaker)
[unopposed]
America in the 70's: "Just fuck my shit up."
Barber: "Say no more fam."
Eve of Destruction
Presidents of the United States
1969-1971: Richard Nixon/Spiro Agnew (Republican)
defeated Hubert Humphrey/Ed Muskie (Democratic), George Wallace/Curtis LeMay (American Independent)
1971-1971: Spiro Agnew/[vacant]
1971-1972: Spiro Agnew/John N. Mitchell
1972-1973: John N. Mitchell/Anthony Imperiale
1973-1973: [disputed]
1973-1977: Edward Muskie/Nelson Rockefeller (Unity)
defeated Edward Muskie/Terry Sanford, Nelson Rockefeller/Gerald Ford (Republican), William Westmoreland/Ben Bubar (Independent)
1977-1981: Edward Muskie/Ralph Yarborough
defeated Gerald Ford/Howard Baker
1981-1989: George H.W. Bush/Bob Dole
defeated Ralph Yarborough/Reuben Askew, John B. Anderson/Ralph Nader (Independent)
defeated Jimmy Hoffa/Lane Kirkland
1989-1997: Charlie Wilson/Don Riegle
defeated Bob Dole/Dick Cheney, Mike Gravel/Nancy Lord (Independent)
defeated Ross Perot/Lamar Alexander
1997-2001: Linda Chavez/Pete Wilson
defeated Skip Humphrey/Joe Lieberman
Chairpeople of the Costal Republic of America/Californian Free Coast (1972-1986)
1972-1972: Timothy Leary (Independent/Heads for Peace) [disputed]
1972-1977: Abbot Hoffman/Diana Oughton (Yippie)
defeated Bernardine Dohrn/Michael Klonsky (Revolutionary Youth Movement), Ted Gold/scattered (Watermelon RYM), Timothy Leary/Margaret Howe Lovatt (Heads for Peace), Gus Hall/Jarvis Tyner (CPUSA), Murray Bookchin/[none] (Anarchist)
1977-1985: Angela Davis/Linda Jenness (Peace & Common Sense)
defeated Angela Davis/scattered [Peoples Party], Abbot Hoffman/Diana Oughton (Yippie), Linda Jenness/Gloria Steinem (All Freedoms Now), Bernardine Dohrn/Michael Klonsky (Revolutionary Youth Movement), Murray Bookchin/[none] (Anarchist)
defeated Diana Oughton/David Dellinger (Yippie), Gloria Steinem/Rennie Davis (No More!), Murray Bookchin/[none] (Anarchist)
1985-1986: Thomas Hayden/Patricia Hearst (No More!)
defeated Linda Jenness/Henning Blomen (Peace & Common Sense), Diana Oughton/Bernadine Dohrn (Yippie/Revolutionary Youth Movement fusion), Murray Bookchin/[none] (Anarchist), Margaret Howe Lovatt/Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh (Heads for Peace)
1986-1986: Patricia Hearst/[vacant] (No More!) [disputed]
1986-1986: [vacant]
1986-1986: Bob Dornan (U.S.-government supported caretaker)
[unopposed]
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Turn, Turn, Turn
1963-1965: Lyndon B. Johnson (Democratic) / (none)
1965-1969: Lyndon B. Johnson / Hubert H. Humphrey (Democratic)
1964: Barry Goldwater/William E. Miller (Republican)
1969-1971: Hubert H. Humphrey / John Connally (Democratic) [1]
1968: Richard Nixon/Spiro Agnew (Republican) [2], George Wallace/Curtis LeMay (American Independent)
1971-1973: Hubert H. Humphrey (Democratic) / John Connally (Republican) [3]
1973-1976: John Connally (Republican) / Albert Brewer (Democratic) [4]
1972: John Connally/Richard Ogilvie (Republican), Hubert Humphrey/Albert Brewer (Democratic), George Wallace/John G. Schmitz (American Independent)
1976: Albert Brewer (Democratic) / (none) [5]
1976-1978: Albert Brewer / Lee Metcalf (Democratic) [6]
1976: Ronald Reagan/Richard Schweiker (Republican), James Buckley/Meldrim Thomson (American Independent) [7]
1978: Albert Brewer (Democratic) / (none)
1978-1981: Albert Brewer / Edmund Muskie (Democratic)
1981-1985: Hank Grover / Al Quie (Republican) [8]
1980: Albert Brewer/Edmund Muskie (Democratic), John Anderson/Lowell Weicker (Independent) [9]
[1]- Following President Johnson's humiliatingly narrow victory in the New Hampshire primary, the president announced he would not seek re-election. The Democratic nomination, marred by the assassination of Senator Robert F. Kennedy after his victory of the California primary, ended up in the hands of Johnson's vice president, Hubert Humphrey, who did not enter a single primary or caucus. The Chicago convention devolved into a chaos with protesters being beaten by police on live television while inside Humphrey and his running mate, Texas Governor John Connally, accepted the party's nomination for president and vice president. The Republican nominee, former vice president Richard Nixon, held a commanding lead throughout the summer, but a dogged campaign by Humphrey, who finally broke with the president on the war in Vietnam in September, resulted in the Democrats winning the election in a very tight race comparable to Nixon's first defeat eight years earlier.
[2]- Rumors of an attempt by the Nixon campaign to interfere with peace negotiations between the United States and North Vietnam to tip the election to the Republican ticket have circulated since the end of the 1968 presidential campaign, although no evidence has thus far confirmed them.
[3]- The split between Humphrey and Connally was perhaps inevitable given the ideological and personal differences between the two men. Connally announced his switch to the Republican Party after a series of heated arguments between the two and instantly became the de facto Republican alternative to Humphrey, refusing to resign and instead spending the remainder of his vice presidency laying the ground work for his own presidential run.
[4]- The 1972 election was the first election since 1824 to be thrown to the House, with Alabama Governor George Wallace succeeding in causing a hung electoral college. The Democratic Senate chose Wallace's predecessor as Alabama governor, Albert Brewer, to be vice president, while Wallace told his electors to throw their votes to Connally, despite the Republican nominee losing the national popular vote.
[5]- It took less than a year before questions about Connally's involvement in the close-knit world of Texas Democratic politics soon turned into ones about several payments that the president had received during his tumultuous stint as vice president from groups that successfully lobbied the Humphrey administration. A series of congressional investigations exposed several shady dealings stemming from Connally's time as Texas governor through his presidency, and the embattled president finally threw in the towel in January 1976, becoming the first president to resign, handing power over to Vice President Brewer.
[6]- The first president from the Deep South since Zachary Taylor, Brewer attempted to restore the nation's faith in government that had been shattered by Vietnam, the disputed 1972 election result and President Connally's resignation in disgrace. His dogged efforts to keep his party united and attempt to see the country through the difficult post-Vietnam era finally collapsed at the end of the decade.
[7]- Former Governor Ronald Reagan shocked supporters by picking liberal Senator Richard Schweiker as his running mate following his victory in the Republican primaries. While moderate and liberal Republicans considered it a sign of Reagan reaching out to other factions of his party, die-hard conservatives took it as a sign that Reagan would abandon his convictions if elected. Conservative activists hijacked the remnant of George Wallace's American Independent Party and persuaded retiring New York Senator James Buckley to run, offering a "principled conservative" answer to Reagan. Although only ever polling in single-digits, the party siphoned enough votes away from Reagan to deny the Republicans the presidency.
[8]- Grover's populist, socially conservative takeover of the Republican Party has been seen as the culmination of the "Dixiecrat" shift to the Republican Party, and might possibly signal the beginning of a new political era in the United States.
[9]- The independent bid of John Anderson, a liberal Republican representative from Illinois, seriously impacted both the Grover and Brewer campaigns' strategies, although it ultimately failed to force Grover to moderate his positions and more than likely tipped a few northeastern states to the Republican candidate.
1963-1965: Lyndon B. Johnson (Democratic) / (none)
1965-1969: Lyndon B. Johnson / Hubert H. Humphrey (Democratic)
1964: Barry Goldwater/William E. Miller (Republican)
1969-1971: Hubert H. Humphrey / John Connally (Democratic) [1]
1968: Richard Nixon/Spiro Agnew (Republican) [2], George Wallace/Curtis LeMay (American Independent)
1971-1973: Hubert H. Humphrey (Democratic) / John Connally (Republican) [3]
1973-1976: John Connally (Republican) / Albert Brewer (Democratic) [4]
1972: John Connally/Richard Ogilvie (Republican), Hubert Humphrey/Albert Brewer (Democratic), George Wallace/John G. Schmitz (American Independent)
1976: Albert Brewer (Democratic) / (none) [5]
1976-1978: Albert Brewer / Lee Metcalf (Democratic) [6]
1976: Ronald Reagan/Richard Schweiker (Republican), James Buckley/Meldrim Thomson (American Independent) [7]
1978: Albert Brewer (Democratic) / (none)
1978-1981: Albert Brewer / Edmund Muskie (Democratic)
1981-1985: Hank Grover / Al Quie (Republican) [8]
1980: Albert Brewer/Edmund Muskie (Democratic), John Anderson/Lowell Weicker (Independent) [9]
[1]- Following President Johnson's humiliatingly narrow victory in the New Hampshire primary, the president announced he would not seek re-election. The Democratic nomination, marred by the assassination of Senator Robert F. Kennedy after his victory of the California primary, ended up in the hands of Johnson's vice president, Hubert Humphrey, who did not enter a single primary or caucus. The Chicago convention devolved into a chaos with protesters being beaten by police on live television while inside Humphrey and his running mate, Texas Governor John Connally, accepted the party's nomination for president and vice president. The Republican nominee, former vice president Richard Nixon, held a commanding lead throughout the summer, but a dogged campaign by Humphrey, who finally broke with the president on the war in Vietnam in September, resulted in the Democrats winning the election in a very tight race comparable to Nixon's first defeat eight years earlier.
[2]- Rumors of an attempt by the Nixon campaign to interfere with peace negotiations between the United States and North Vietnam to tip the election to the Republican ticket have circulated since the end of the 1968 presidential campaign, although no evidence has thus far confirmed them.
[3]- The split between Humphrey and Connally was perhaps inevitable given the ideological and personal differences between the two men. Connally announced his switch to the Republican Party after a series of heated arguments between the two and instantly became the de facto Republican alternative to Humphrey, refusing to resign and instead spending the remainder of his vice presidency laying the ground work for his own presidential run.
[4]- The 1972 election was the first election since 1824 to be thrown to the House, with Alabama Governor George Wallace succeeding in causing a hung electoral college. The Democratic Senate chose Wallace's predecessor as Alabama governor, Albert Brewer, to be vice president, while Wallace told his electors to throw their votes to Connally, despite the Republican nominee losing the national popular vote.
[5]- It took less than a year before questions about Connally's involvement in the close-knit world of Texas Democratic politics soon turned into ones about several payments that the president had received during his tumultuous stint as vice president from groups that successfully lobbied the Humphrey administration. A series of congressional investigations exposed several shady dealings stemming from Connally's time as Texas governor through his presidency, and the embattled president finally threw in the towel in January 1976, becoming the first president to resign, handing power over to Vice President Brewer.
[6]- The first president from the Deep South since Zachary Taylor, Brewer attempted to restore the nation's faith in government that had been shattered by Vietnam, the disputed 1972 election result and President Connally's resignation in disgrace. His dogged efforts to keep his party united and attempt to see the country through the difficult post-Vietnam era finally collapsed at the end of the decade.
[7]- Former Governor Ronald Reagan shocked supporters by picking liberal Senator Richard Schweiker as his running mate following his victory in the Republican primaries. While moderate and liberal Republicans considered it a sign of Reagan reaching out to other factions of his party, die-hard conservatives took it as a sign that Reagan would abandon his convictions if elected. Conservative activists hijacked the remnant of George Wallace's American Independent Party and persuaded retiring New York Senator James Buckley to run, offering a "principled conservative" answer to Reagan. Although only ever polling in single-digits, the party siphoned enough votes away from Reagan to deny the Republicans the presidency.
[8]- Grover's populist, socially conservative takeover of the Republican Party has been seen as the culmination of the "Dixiecrat" shift to the Republican Party, and might possibly signal the beginning of a new political era in the United States.
[9]- The independent bid of John Anderson, a liberal Republican representative from Illinois, seriously impacted both the Grover and Brewer campaigns' strategies, although it ultimately failed to force Grover to moderate his positions and more than likely tipped a few northeastern states to the Republican candidate.
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We, the American Working Population (I don't know how to do the links on here, but the song is 9-5 anthem by Aesop Rock)
44. Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH)/Gov. Bill Richardson (D-NM): 2009-2017
Def. 2008: Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)/Gov. Mike Huckabee (R-AR)
Def. 2012: Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchinson (R-TX)/Sen. John Thune (R-SD)
45. Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R-MN)/Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL): 2017-2025
Def. 2016: Vice Pres. Bill Richardson (D-NM)/Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-OH)
Def. 2020: Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ)/Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN)
46. Sen. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI)/Gov. Jason Kander (D-MO): 2025-2029
Def. 2024: Sec. of State Rand Paul (R-KY)/Rep. Jamie Herrera Beutler (R-WA)
47. Gov. George P. Bush (R-TX)/Sen. Mike Gallagher (R-WI): 2029-2033
Def. 2028: Pres. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI)/Vice Pres. Jason Kander (D-MO)
48. Gov. Richard Ojeda (D-WV)/Sen. Cedric Richmond (D-LA): 2033-XXXX
Def. 2032: Pres. George P. Bush (R-TX)/Vice Pres. Mike Gallagher (R-WI)
44. Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH)/Gov. Bill Richardson (D-NM): 2009-2017
Def. 2008: Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)/Gov. Mike Huckabee (R-AR)
Def. 2012: Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchinson (R-TX)/Sen. John Thune (R-SD)
45. Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R-MN)/Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL): 2017-2025
Def. 2016: Vice Pres. Bill Richardson (D-NM)/Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-OH)
Def. 2020: Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ)/Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN)
46. Sen. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI)/Gov. Jason Kander (D-MO): 2025-2029
Def. 2024: Sec. of State Rand Paul (R-KY)/Rep. Jamie Herrera Beutler (R-WA)
47. Gov. George P. Bush (R-TX)/Sen. Mike Gallagher (R-WI): 2029-2033
Def. 2028: Pres. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI)/Vice Pres. Jason Kander (D-MO)
48. Gov. Richard Ojeda (D-WV)/Sen. Cedric Richmond (D-LA): 2033-XXXX
Def. 2032: Pres. George P. Bush (R-TX)/Vice Pres. Mike Gallagher (R-WI)
I think this might work better.
45. Donald Trump (Republican - New York) January 20th, 2017 - January 20th, 2019| Vice President: Mike Pence [1]
Election and Defeated Ticket:
- 2016: Hillary Clinton (Democratic - New York)/Tim Kaine (Democratic - Virginia)
Election and Defeated Ticket:
- 2020: Bernie Sanders (Democratic - Vermont)/Keith Ellison (Democratic - Minnesota)
[1] Impeached and removed from office.
[2] President Mike Pence was best known for speaking softly while carrying a big stick. After threats of assassination against him loomed, Pence would take the initiative to nominate Former Governor Chris Christie of New Jersey as his vice presidential nominee, which would narrowly be confirmed by the United States Senate. Pence would continue Former President Trump's economic, budget, corporation, energy, and oil policies, but would take a hard-line on abortion, LGBT rights, crime, drugs, education, and environment. While President, relations with allies slightly improved after Pence made efforts to mend the United States' image in the world and broke from Trump's unprecedented position on Russia. Many supporters of Trump felt that the impeachment and removal from office was unfair and held fast to the fears they embraced when electing Trump in 2016. Mike Pence would be primary challenged in the Republican Party Presidential Primaries of 2020 by Senator Marco Rubio of Florida and Former Governor John Kasich of Ohio, both of whom promised to set the record between 2017-2021 'right'. Pence would narrowly eke out a victory over both by reminding voters of Rubio and Kasich's failed campaigns and accused them of becoming moderate during their 2016 Presidential Campaigns. The Democrats would nominate Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, wanting to set the record of 2016 'right' themselves by voting for a populist. Sanders would nominate Representative Keith Ellison of Minnesota to court the African American vote. Pence's smear campaign would include Sanders and Ellison's religious views and Sanders' honeymoon in the Soviet Union, both of which he accused of potentially 'selling out' the country to its enemies. Female voters were hesitant to vote for either Sanders or Pence, due to a controversial essay written by Sanders in the 1970s and Pence's association with Trump. The Sanders-Ellison Ticket would be painted as dangerously leftist, whereas Pence's selection of Christie, while controversial attracted moderates and independents to the Republican Ticket. In a final reprieve, Pence would make the case for himself at the Presidential Debates against Sanders. Keeping his cool while Sanders ferociously interrupted him and attacked him reminded voters of the 2016 Vice Presidential Debate against Tim Kaine. In an upset election, Pence would outperform Donald Trump's performance from 2016, even winning the Popular Vote.
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1933-1941: Franklin D. Roosevelt/John Nance Garner (Democratic)
1932: Herbert Hoover/Charles Curtis (Republican)
1936: Huey Long/Burton K. Wheeler (Populist) , Alf Landon/Frank Knox (Republican)
1941-1945: Franklin D. Roosevelt/Wendell Willkie (Liberal)
1940: Huey Long/William H. Murray (Populist) , Robert A. Taft/Arthur H. Vandenberg (Republican)
1944: Huey Long/Douglas MacArthur (Populist) , Robert A. Taft/John W. Bricker (Republican)
1945-1949: Wendell Willkie/Vacant (Liberal)
1949-1955: Wendell Willkie/James Roosevelt (Liberal)
1948: Douglas MacArthur/Earl Long (Populist) , Robert A. Taft/Harold Stassen (Republican)
1952: Earl Long/J. William Fulbright (Populist) , Robert A. Taft/William F. Knowland [replacing Richard Nixon] (Republican)
1955-1957: James Roosevelt/Vacant (Liberal)
1957-1961: James Roosevelt/John F. Kennedy (Liberal)
1956: Estes Kefauver/Happy Chandler (Populist) , Harry F. Byrd/Barry Goldwater (Conservative)
1961-1969: Lyndon B. Johnson/Russell B. Long (Populist)
1960: James Roosevelt/John F. Kennedy (Liberal) , Harry F. Byrd/Strom Thurmond (Conservative)
1964: Hubert Humphrey/Pierre Salinger (Liberal) , Strom Thurmond/Orval Faubas (Conservative)
1969-1972: John F. Kennedy/Walter Reuther (Liberal)
1968: John B. Connally/Harland Sanders (Populist) , Orval Faubas/Ezra Taft Benson (Conservative)
1972-1972: Walter Reuther/Vacant (Liberal)
1972-1973: Walter Reuther/Ted Sorensen (Liberal)
1973-1981: Sam Yorty/James E. Carter (Populist)
1972: Walter Reuther/Ted Sorensen (Liberal)
1976: Ramsey Clark/Claude Pepper (Liberal)
1981-1986: Walter Reuther/Robert F. Kennedy (Liberal)
1980: James E. Carter/Henry M. Jackson (Populist) , Jesse Helms/Frank Rizzo (National Populist)
1984: Russell B. Long/Newton Gingrich (Populist)
1986-1986: Robert F. Kennedy/Vacant (Liberal)
1986-1993: Robert F. Kennedy/Lane Kirkland (Liberal)
1988: Al Gore/Alexander Haig (Populist) , Jerry Brown/Bruce Springsteen (Youth International)
1993-1997: Newton Gingrich/William J. Clinton (Populist)
1992: Lane Kirkland/Gary Hart (Liberal) , Jerry Brown/Peter Diamondstone (Youth International)
1997-2001: George Takei/Jay Rockefeller (Liberal)
1996: Newton Gingrich/William J. Clinton (Populist) , Peter Diamondstone/Angela Davis (Youth International)
2001-2009: Dick Gephardt/Jeff Sessions (Populist)
2000: George Takei/Jay Rockefeller (Liberal) , Peter Diamondstone/Gloria La Riva (Youth International)
2004: Ralph Nader/Tom Harkin (Liberal) , Nancy Pelosi/Bill Richardson (Independent)
2009-2017: Deval Patrick/Chris Dodd (Liberal)
2008: Jeff Sessions/Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Populist)
2012: Rick Santorum/James Webb (Populist)
2017-0000: Skip Humphrey/Alison Lundergan Grimes (Liberal)
2016: James Webb/Mike Huckabee (Populist)
1932: Herbert Hoover/Charles Curtis (Republican)
1936: Huey Long/Burton K. Wheeler (Populist) , Alf Landon/Frank Knox (Republican)
1941-1945: Franklin D. Roosevelt/Wendell Willkie (Liberal)
1940: Huey Long/William H. Murray (Populist) , Robert A. Taft/Arthur H. Vandenberg (Republican)
1944: Huey Long/Douglas MacArthur (Populist) , Robert A. Taft/John W. Bricker (Republican)
1945-1949: Wendell Willkie/Vacant (Liberal)
1949-1955: Wendell Willkie/James Roosevelt (Liberal)
1948: Douglas MacArthur/Earl Long (Populist) , Robert A. Taft/Harold Stassen (Republican)
1952: Earl Long/J. William Fulbright (Populist) , Robert A. Taft/William F. Knowland [replacing Richard Nixon] (Republican)
1955-1957: James Roosevelt/Vacant (Liberal)
1957-1961: James Roosevelt/John F. Kennedy (Liberal)
1956: Estes Kefauver/Happy Chandler (Populist) , Harry F. Byrd/Barry Goldwater (Conservative)
1961-1969: Lyndon B. Johnson/Russell B. Long (Populist)
1960: James Roosevelt/John F. Kennedy (Liberal) , Harry F. Byrd/Strom Thurmond (Conservative)
1964: Hubert Humphrey/Pierre Salinger (Liberal) , Strom Thurmond/Orval Faubas (Conservative)
1969-1972: John F. Kennedy/Walter Reuther (Liberal)
1968: John B. Connally/Harland Sanders (Populist) , Orval Faubas/Ezra Taft Benson (Conservative)
1972-1972: Walter Reuther/Vacant (Liberal)
1972-1973: Walter Reuther/Ted Sorensen (Liberal)
1973-1981: Sam Yorty/James E. Carter (Populist)
1972: Walter Reuther/Ted Sorensen (Liberal)
1976: Ramsey Clark/Claude Pepper (Liberal)
1981-1986: Walter Reuther/Robert F. Kennedy (Liberal)
1980: James E. Carter/Henry M. Jackson (Populist) , Jesse Helms/Frank Rizzo (National Populist)
1984: Russell B. Long/Newton Gingrich (Populist)
1986-1986: Robert F. Kennedy/Vacant (Liberal)
1986-1993: Robert F. Kennedy/Lane Kirkland (Liberal)
1988: Al Gore/Alexander Haig (Populist) , Jerry Brown/Bruce Springsteen (Youth International)
1993-1997: Newton Gingrich/William J. Clinton (Populist)
1992: Lane Kirkland/Gary Hart (Liberal) , Jerry Brown/Peter Diamondstone (Youth International)
1997-2001: George Takei/Jay Rockefeller (Liberal)
1996: Newton Gingrich/William J. Clinton (Populist) , Peter Diamondstone/Angela Davis (Youth International)
2001-2009: Dick Gephardt/Jeff Sessions (Populist)
2000: George Takei/Jay Rockefeller (Liberal) , Peter Diamondstone/Gloria La Riva (Youth International)
2004: Ralph Nader/Tom Harkin (Liberal) , Nancy Pelosi/Bill Richardson (Independent)
2009-2017: Deval Patrick/Chris Dodd (Liberal)
2008: Jeff Sessions/Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Populist)
2012: Rick Santorum/James Webb (Populist)
2017-0000: Skip Humphrey/Alison Lundergan Grimes (Liberal)
2016: James Webb/Mike Huckabee (Populist)
Nothing, I just did an ASB.
Hmm, looks good in case someone wants to create an AH on Trump and Pence.
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