The Sons of Inti Shall Not Perish
- Thread starter King of the Uzbeks
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I still think a deal with the Welsers could be pretty interesting, they gave the wealth and expertise to really help the Incas modernist, they lack the military power to take over the Inca empire and they gave access to a large potential settler population, which are unconnected to the Spanish.
Huzzah, it is back!
And agreeing with Jürgen on having the Welsers. With all that is going on, the banking families of Europe may be piqued in trading with the Tawantinsuyu. The Duchy of Courland could also get involved.
And agreeing with Jürgen on having the Welsers. With all that is going on, the banking families of Europe may be piqued in trading with the Tawantinsuyu. The Duchy of Courland could also get involved.
The update says this is the nadir of the epidemics. I originally took this to mean that population is bottoming out here but it probably makes more sense to assume that it means that population loss slows down from here on out.
But ITTL the population will probably bottom out at a higher point and start recovering sooner since you have society in far better shape so you don't have hunger, poor sanitation, forced labor etc. exacerbating the plagues as much as IOTL.
During my unacceptably long hiatus we passed over the one year mark for this TL. Its been a lot of fun, and it wouldn't have happened without all the great feedback from you all. Thank you, and have a snake vomiting rainbows.
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John Fredrick Parker
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No, not that! If there is one change that fascinates me about this PoD more than anything it's that; if nothing else, I really hope @King of the Uzbeks doesn't walk that back too soon.
I'm sorry but I'm a bit of a Chess geek. Expect random updates on the situation at random times. If we get to that point expect updates on polar exploration as well..
Y'know if you enjoy the strategy and foresight of chess, then I strongly recommend you try out the series Kakegurui
Maybe I'm thinking too ahead of myself...but...maybe after Spain stop's being a jerk, perhaps we could start seeing a navy of our glorious Inti Empire.
Alcsentre Calanice
Gone Fishin'
The galleons of Tawantinsuyu shall clean the Pacific Sea of the foreign fleets!
I'm not an expert, but I'm pretty sure realistically it would take years to do this. They would need to import the specialists that would know how to build the Galleons, and it could take an even longer time to train enough people, and have a surplus of skilled sailors to create a modern (for the time) navy. All this would be made harder by the fact that for the immediate foreseeable future the Incas will have a declining population. I think it could be done, but it would have to be an immediate priority, and would have to be done quietly and skillfully, as the Spanish might be willing to let the project slip...until they think the Incas might actually succeed. It would take a ruler with ENORMOUS foresight to do these things, the kind who would start implementing coinage and a standard written script instead of the knots the Incas used. Maybe a Ruler's son and some noble children could become hostages to the Spanish, or wards of the French/English?
Quebracho is a pretty famous, high-quality wood, but I have precisely no idea how good it would be as timber for shipbuilding. There's also coniferous forest in the Patagonia, on the southern edges of Inca influence, which is probably more suitable.
Notably though, both of those sources lie on the very outer limit of Inca influence and power.
Touch and go huh...
There's the Amazon of course, although that's on the wrong side of the Andes. I don't know how shitty tropical wood is for shipbuilding, but at least it's plentiful and not so far from Cuzco.
Don't forget about Hernando De Soto and his expedition through what is the Southeastern United in OTL. So I expect all the manpower used to conquer and consolidate the Tawantinsuyu in OTL will go to putting a serious effort in colonizing North America. Which would give them total hegemony over the Gulf of Mexico and the islands of the Antilles.
This could result in the British Empire setting up colonies in Southern Africa instead of North America.
This could result in the British Empire setting up colonies in Southern Africa instead of North America.
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Well not exactly @MagicalPhantom345 . At most you won't see Spanish Peru or the Southern Portions of Gran Colombia (Ecuador & Southern Colombia). Even without that much, I highly doubt that the loss of much of the Spanish Pacific Coast would equate to colonization of the entirety of North America. Especially with England and France still left to play, both of whom would be toying with colonization around this time.
There is also Portugal of course, but I highly doubt Portugal would be too focused on American affairs at the moment, despite their claimed holdings along the Brazilian coastline.
There is also Portugal of course, but I highly doubt Portugal would be too focused on American affairs at the moment, despite their claimed holdings along the Brazilian coastline.