This is good stuff. Thanks for the links. Love the idea of Tsarist Russia being the Imperial Japan analog.Somebody on Reddit posted a series of maps of a post-Entente victory in North America, called "There is No Hope under the Golden Circle" or "It's Always Sunny in West-Jersey."
Here is the basic map. Here is a map including the US as a set of warlord like TNO!Russia. Here is a map of the Dixie Civil War. There's a lot of great discussion in the comments here
I'm not sure who the Confederate stand-ins for the German successors would be. One commenter suggested George Wallace as a Speer analogue, proposing token reforms but in his heart still being a true believer in Freedomite ideology. His Gang of Four would include the likes of Lyndon Johnson and Jimmy Carter as legitimate reformers.
I like the idea of Patton and Potter as Schoerner and Spiedel but don't know which pairing is a better fit. Maybe Saul Goldman and Jefferson Pinkard for Bormann and Heydrich? And I have no idea for Goering. It's been a while since I've read TL-191 so I don't remember all the nuance (I even had to google a list of characters)
Love the idea of Tsarist Russia being the Imperial Japan analog.
Taboritsky doesn't make sense as Kishi, he's far too unhinged/insane. Kishi is entirely sane, just evil. In that light perhaps Rodzaevsky would be a good fit for Kishi.I suppose that Taboritsky would be Kishi analogue, Kido would be Shepunov , Kaya would be....Yemyelanov (he'd fit as a proponent of Freedomite-esque solutions in Imperial Russia), Ino (starting Japanese PM) would Semyonov, Ikeda would be Shafarevich and Takagi would be Gul. I think that Turkey would fit as China analogue and Alparslan Turkes as Long Yun.
Taboritsky doesn't make sense as Kishi, he's far too unhinged/insane. Kishi is entirely sane, just evil. In that light perhaps Rodzaevsky would be a good fit for Kishi.
Also: Malcolm X as Kovner. "They wanted one thing: Antiqam. Revenge."
Somebody on Reddit posted a series of maps of a post-Entente victory in North America, called "There is No Hope under the Golden Circle" or "It's Always Sunny in West-Jersey."
Here is the basic map. Here is a map including the US as a set of warlord like TNO!Russia. Here is a map of the Dixie Civil War. There's a lot of great discussion in the comments here
I'm not sure who the Confederate stand-ins for the German successors would be. One commenter suggested George Wallace as a Speer analogue, proposing token reforms but in his heart still being a true believer in Freedomite ideology. His Gang of Four would include the likes of Lyndon Johnson and Jimmy Carter as legitimate reformers.
I like the idea of Patton and Potter as Schoerner and Spiedel but don't know which pairing is a better fit. Maybe Saul Goldman and Jefferson Pinkard for Bormann and Heydrich? And I have no idea for Goering. It's been a while since I've read TL-191 so I don't remember all the nuance (I even had to google a list of characters)
The problem is that I don’t really see who the Himmler/Burgundy analogue could be. Pennsylvania and New Jersey is a long way from the Confederate heartland after all, and I don’t really see them adapting the sort of “more southern than thou” mentality(like Burgundy’s ”we’re the “real” Aryans view of Nazi Germany).
Taboritsky doesn't make sense as Kishi, he's far too unhinged/insane. Kishi is entirely sane, just evil. In that light perhaps Rodzaevsky would be a good fit for Kishi.
Also: Malcolm X as Kovner. "They wanted one thing: Antiqam. Revenge."
Damn, Poor Mexico. I kinda liked the Rump US as Vichy France more, but I do like the Golden Circle better as a name for the Burgundians.I think it would help if the TL-191 TNO had elements of Fatherland, since we kinda need an OFN equvilent. This could be achieved by having Germany defeat France and stalemate Britain, but CSA wins in the South and a superbomb is used to force Germany to the peace table before it could attack Russia. So we'd have CSA vs. Russia vs. Mittleuropa cold war.
Also the linked maps are a bit out of date, so use this instead:
[Parallels under construction]
Hmm. Maybe the British break away over disagreements regarding Canada with Featherston, and decide to form their own bloc with Gran Colombia and South America. Eventually, Britain shifts over to the Germans and joins the European Community.Personally I will say I think Britain fits better as an Italian Empire analogue, and Argentina as Turkey so will diverge from the map a bit there. However, Gran Columbia works well as a Iberian union analogue with the idea that the right wing governments of Columbia, Venezuela and Ecuador of the decided to revive Bolivar's dream as a means of opposing whatever plans Featherston had for them
Vonsiatsky or Matkovsky could be Ino on that note as well with a longer-living Baidalakov as Kido.Oktan-Kaya
Rodzheavsky-Kishi
Gul-Takagi
Levitov-Ikeda(oweing to his role in KN as wanting to uphold the status quo, through KN!Levitov is a bit closer to Speer)
Hmm. Maybe the British break away over disagreements regarding Canada with Featherston, and decide to form their own bloc with Gran Colombia and South America. Eventually, Britain shifts over to the Germans and joins the European Community.
Could be a massive big tent "National Unity" coalition, with the SPD, Zentrum and the CDU as different wings:For Germany, an ATL version of the CDU could be the Republican-Democrats equivalent with the Center and Left-NPP equivalent being the SPD and the FR-NPP and Yockey equivalent being the DVLP?