Wrong war.In a heavy CSA victory, they'd probably take these from the USA:
-New Mexico
-Kansas
-Missouri
-Maryland
-West Virginia
-Utah (Deseret) would be made independent
WW1 not the ACW.
Err.......he is talking about WW1, and those are l;ikely to be territories the TL-191 CSA will take from the US.WW1 not the ACW.
Err.......he is talking about WW1, and those are l;ikely to be territories the TL-191 CSA will take from the US.
The problem is that an Entente victory is only possible if they do so quickly, otherwise they're screwed. This suggests a mild peace, and then... hrm.
If the US had lost that war, they have been stripped of quite a bit.
They'd lose:
To Britain/Canada:
Maine.
New Hampshire.
Vermont.
Their part of the St. Lawrence valley.
The Niagara region.
Detroit and it's immediate surroundings along the Detroit and St. Clair rivers.
The Upper Peninsula of Michigan.
The Red River valley, much of Minnesota and the rest of the northern half of Dakota.
Montana.
Idaho.
Oregon.
Washington State. (Renamed New Caledonia? or merged with Oregon? Or kept under it's current name as a hint of irony with the Union Jack waving overhead?)
A shitload of money/material goods in reparations for the damage done by the War.
To the CSA:
Maryland.
'West Virgina' returned to Virginia.
Missouri.
A good chunk of downstate Illinois.
New Mexico.
Kansas.
A shitload of money/material goods in reparations for the damage done by the War.
To Mexico:
A shitload of money/material goods in reparations for the damage done by the War, in terms of territory they get jack and shit.
Spun off as "independent" nations:
Utah. (Deseret, Republic of) Gets a shitload of money/material goods in reparations for the damage done by the War.
California/Nevada. Gets no money, just lots of foreign "advisers" to ensure their cooperation/compliance and to keep them firmly out of the Yankees' grasp.
That or the Haber process got butterflied away/delayed (the novels had a few differences from OTL of the period apart from the obvious ones, so Turtledove does know how to use them, it's just that he won't) and Germany went down fast once their nitrate stocks ran out, leaving the US to face the whole of the Entente... Alone.
It's actually not clear to me that the Allies have naval superiority in the books.
no offense, but I doubt they'ld loose so much.
assuming a simular victory as in OTL, the way i See it:
Canada: Main, Part of Michigan, Washington, OTL's North Dakota, and parts of Idaho, and NY.
CSA: West Virginia, Maryland, OTL's Arizona, Chunks of Illinois, and Missouri. maybe Pueto Rico
Mexico: not much to be honest, maybe part of california.
I can't see the U.S. having Puerto Rico, if anything Spain has it.