These Fair Shores: The Commonwealth of New England
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Corsica and the Rhineland are two entirely different beasts though. Corsica had 160,000 people in 1815 whilst the Rhineland at the same time count 3 and a half million.
And? Cultural change happening quicker in the more populated cities than in the less populated countryside is a near-universal constant.
Language changes start from the cities, Rhineland is urbanised, Corsica at the time wasn’t nearly as much and is mountainous (something which keeps language alive through isolation). We’re not talking about a change that is mainly driven by popualtion replacement but one that is mostly driven by language change within a same population. You can see from the graph that Breton and Alsatian followed similar trends (alsacien was of course a special case) just a different rates
Of course german nationalism which was strong in the Rhineland would slow this down but then it’s an AH I don’t know the specifics.
What ludicrous sources are you reading that defined the population of the Rhineland to 3.500.000 in 1815?
The left-bank area defined for Prussia at the Congress of Vienna came out to be ~~1 million.
According to Wikipedia, the entirety left bank territory when France annexed it was 1.6 million.
From Reich to State by Michael Rowe states that nearly 3 and a half million Germans lived In the Rhenish regions. I don't know where he gets his numbers from, however TC Blannings The French Revolution In Germany mentions that french records deliberately low balled population numbers not just in annexed regions in Germany, but also in Belgium and the Netherlands and Catalonia.
Fair enough.
You're misreading this passage. It's not 3.5 million, it's 2 million (of which 1.5 million of that are Catholics), and it includes the entirety of the Rhenish provinces which includes territory on the right bank of the Rhine. If it was 3.5 million, then millions of babies vanished between 1815 and 1864.
That 1 million on the left bank that I posted earlier is probably more accurate. And if you include the other German polities that got Rhinish territory, it probably gets much closer to the 1.6 million from the original French figure.
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with the way TTL is, I'm leaning towards a corporate dystopia
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Love it! Don't recall seeing it in any of the BBC sidebar articles, but was Tory also felled by a sex scandal ITTL like his OTL counterpart (timing just about lines up, give or take a week - turns out the Mayor having an affair with a City staff subordinate is frowned upon!)? Also, I'm kinda surprised that Queen's University and TTL's Kingston and the Islands equivalent went National and United Canada respectively, considering they're quite Liberal OTL (but then again, the Coalition is probably a lot different than the OTL Tories...).
Yet another wonderful update, @CosmicAsh!
Yet another wonderful update, @CosmicAsh!
A Canadian PM from the Parti Québécois analoge?
[my traditional reaction to this TL realities] AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
I'm wondering how Hudson Bay Company survived in the past centuries, despite the formation of Canada.
What places in Canada where a Silicon Valley-like tech centers will be located?
What places in Canada where a Silicon Valley-like tech centers will be located?
It's funny seeing this sort of thing in a TL considering today Hudson Bay is basically just a regular department store.
Could be more similar to the German CSU in function, considering it is in "the Coalition" with the United Canada Party, which appear to be the right wing/conservative.
Sure, but Liberals and Nationals do run in the same States, unlike CDU/CSU of OTL Germany and United/National of TFS Canada, where the latter only runs in a single state/province while the former does not run in said province.