The Union Forever: A TL

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Zoidberg12

Great new update. :cool:

For one thing, you gotta love the Calvin and Hobbes analog. :D

Interesting to see the new political changes. After the fourteen year long war in the Congo, I'm not surprised that Conservatives lost the election. Sad to see anti-semetic protests in response to the new prime minster. How widespread is anti-semetism in this world? Did Zionism ever become a thing in this world?

Not good to see outbreaks of violence in Central Asia and Chad. Hopefully the IEF will get a new Prime Minister sooner rather than later. As for Chad, the southern part of the country could become its own country with borders similar to OTL's Central African Republic, but we'll just have to wait and see.

Interesting to hear about The Bufferly Emporer. Whats the rest of the world like in said alternate history?

Finally Mac, I was wondering if you could make a World Democracy Index style map for the world of The Union Forever as of 1986?
 

Mac Gregor

SuperFrog said:
Good update :)

Someone needs to make a timeline based on the butterfly emperor :p

Will Germany ever give independence to Cameroon?
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Thanks SuperFrog. Who knows maybe I will make a spinoff Butterfly Emperor TL someday. Concerning Cameroon, it is still being ruled with as a colony although there is an advisory council made up of local notables half of which are native Cameroonians. The new DDU government may very well push for giving them representation in the Reichstag. There are several groups in Cameroon pushing for full independence but they are divided and the German security forces have been able to keep them quiet so far.
 

Mac Gregor

Roland Traveler said:
You do care about your world! It is now officially a utopia! Well, except for Russia. And Italy. Any party named the Resurgence Party cannot be good news. Do I sense a nostalgic attempt to return to the Roman Empire?
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While the Resurgence Part is pro-military, it isn't expansionist. They are more interested in riving the industrial sector which has been loosing out to emerging markets in recent years. Think Christian-Labor as pro worker and Resurgence as pro business.
 

Mac Gregor

metastasis_d said:
Gonna be bad for the environment but probably good for the people.

Awesome!



I smell trouble in the future

Sounds interesting. Could be a nice spin-off.
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fjihr said:
I'm glad that Calvin and Hobbs still exists ITTL
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HIM Dogson said:
I don't care about no WWII, I don't care about no Hitler or Stalin, I don't care about slavery ending earlier, without a Calvin and Hobbes analogue this TL wasn't complete! Congratulations, MacGregor!
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Glad to see so much love for Martin and Hugo.
 

Mac Gregor

Lalli said:
I smell big troubles in Central Asia for IEF.

Hopefully situation in Nigeria doesn't go so bad in OTL.
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Zoidberg12 said:
Great new update. :cool:

For one thing, you gotta love the Calvin and Hobbes analog. :D

Interesting to see the new political changes. After the fourteen year long war in the Congo, I'm not surprised that Conservatives lost the election. Sad to see anti-semetic protests in response to the new prime minster. How widespread is anti-semetism in this world? Did Zionism ever become a thing in this world?

Not good to see outbreaks of violence in Central Asia and Chad. Hopefully the IEF will get a new Prime Minister sooner rather than later. As for Chad, the southern part of the country could become its own country with borders similar to OTL's Central African Republic, but we'll just have to wait and see.

Interesting to hear about The Bufferly Emporer. Whats the rest of the world like in said alternate history?

Finally Mac, I was wondering if you could make a World Democracy Index style map for the world of The Union Forever as of 1986?
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Thanks for the comments guys. To answer a few points.

Anti-Semitism is greater in Europe but much less in the Middle East than OTL due to the lack of the Holocaust and the State of Israel respectively. Zionism does exist in the TL but never became the force it was in ours. There is a sizable Jewish community living in Jerusalem province but they are relatively happy remaining part of Syria.

Concerning The Butterfly Emperor, the rest of the world is an interesting place. Continental Europe is dominated by Napoleonic France. Germany and Italy are divided. Qing China and Ethiopia are pulling a Meiji. Russia is on the verge of a leftwing Republican revolution.

I will see what I can do for a democracy index. It may have to wait until 1990.
 

ZincOxide

Mac Gregor said:
In December, the alternate history novel The Butterfly Emperor by Mexican author Jesus Barbosa Conejo was released. Set during the late 1800s in a world where Mexico is an expansionist empire, the novel explored several themes regarding imperialism, race relations, organized religion, and the notion of societal progress. The novel quickly became an international bestseller and sparked a number of squeals. It was later adapted into Spanish and English language films in 1988 and 1995 respectively.
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Were you perchance thinking of "Por la Patria" by Archangelsk? ;)

Also: Glad to see things are moving along still! :)
 

Mac Gregor

frustrated progressive said:
Where is Fairburn? OTL Moresby? And who was it named after?

Also, how's the environment?
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Fairburn is located near OTL Port Moresby. It is named after Donald Fairburn a merchant marine captain who ITTL established a trading post their in the 1890s.

The environment suffered badly during the war but is making a slow recovery.
 
1987: Foreign and Domestic Developments
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    • Mac Gregor

    1987

    Foreign and Domestic Developments    ​

    After 17 years in power, the ruling Progressive Socialist Party lost control of the government in a landmark Brazilian election. Flavio Brandao of Mato Grosso replaced Nereu Pinto as President. Brandao’s and his moderate Center-Reform Party vowed to clean up corruption and jump-start the sagging economy. To the relief of many on the left, Brandao refused to partner with the rightwing National Alliance to amend the pacifist constitution of 1970. Instead, Brandao formed a governing coalition with the young but growing Brazilian Ecoist Party who in return for their support demanded concessions in preserving the Brazilian rainforest.

    In March, elections replaced the provisional Spanish republican council with a democratically elected government . Vito Rolando Vazquez, hero of the revolution, was sworn in as president. France and Italy continued to provide substantial financial aid in order to rebuild the country. Continued persecution of suspected monarchist caused many conservatives to flee to the Carlist controlled territories of the Canary and Balearic Islands.

    The 1987 World’s Fair was held in the Persian city of Isfahan. Shah Hamid Hassan Qajar re-designated the city as the imperial capital the same year in a not so subtle nod to the past glories of Safavid Persia. To be fair, the Persian Empire was as economically and military powerful as it had been in centuries thanks to the booming petroleum sector and growing industrial base. Sadly, the Shah and his ruling Imperial Nationalist Party had over the past decade increasingly consolidated power in their own hands reducing parliament to a rubber stamp and bending the courts to their will. Despite the erosion of democracy, the World’s Fair did an effective job highlighting Persia’s transformation from a dusty backwater to a bustling rising power.

    In September, the Union of Malaya became an independent nation inside of the British Commonwealth. With most of its peninsular territory devastated during the Asia-Pacific War, the new nation was politically and economically dominated by its capital city Singapore. In a televised address to the nation, Malaya’s Prime Minister Teo Wan promised to continue reconstruction, guard against growing Technocratic influence, and pursue close relations with the Community of South Asian States and the rest of the British Commonwealth.

    After months of debate, the Kingdom of Portugal adopted a new constitution in November. Adhering to the provisions of the Dublin Conference, King Manuel III retained his throne but significant power was delegated to a new bicameral parliament. Political parties were legalized with the notable exception of communists. The new constitution also redefined Portugal’s relationships with its remaining oversea territories. The Azores, Madeira, Cape Verde, and São Tomé and Príncipe remained autonomous regions within the kingdom. East Timor became an independent nation but kept Manuel III as head of state and continued a close relationship with Portugal. In order to mark this important political transformation, a new flag was adopted reportedly designed by Prince Fernando himself.



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    • Lalli

    Quiet bad that democracy in Persia is declining. Hopefully situation not goes so badly as during OTL Pahlavi dynasty.

    It will be intresting what the country will do nextly. I guess that Persia might be very intrested increase its power in Middle East.
     

    HIM Dogson

    So how much of a jackass is the Shah? Is he as bad as Mohammed Reza or is he more of an enlightened absolutist? It would be interesting to see a surviving enlightened absolutist state.
     
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