Case in point: Bolivia. They haven’t had a sea coast in over a century, but they still insist on having a navy.
The Co-Prosperity Sphere
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Most likely also as a claim to the Pacific coast connection they lost ;D
Thank you very much, more chapters coming and planend in fact the idea document itself has roughtly a few hudnret pages and is allready in the "Cold War" ^^
Now I'm not gonna lie, I am mostly just reading through the Japanese and Pacific War segments, because that's why I clicked on this thread in the first place, plus almost 1k threadmarks is impossible for me to read.
I will say that this timeline is very well thought out, even if there are various historical inaccuracies or implausibities in it, it's enjoyable, if a little depressing, to read. That America is gonna end up losing and ultimately split apart while Japan goes on raping Asia is depressing. Or how America has mostly been taking L's the entire time is another. But it's alternate history and I love that shit.
Yeah all together it can be a bit much, I need to make acut somewhere and restart smaller threats someday ;D
Thank you very much kind sir, or madam. Writing it sometiems is also a challenge, because I'm more of a Utopia kind of guy, wich is why I put on the breaks on some of the Nazi stuff and invented a new ideology, overall German and Japanese rule will not be as bad and evil then it could have become OTL had they not been stopped, but it also will not be sunshine either.
My better half actually encouraged me to write someting less uplifitng and I like a challenge, even if sometimes I realise myself there are certain things I don't want to write, or not go into bigge detail because of the subject at hand, especialy giving my own family as Jews has a rather intimate relationship with the war and it's aftermatch as first the Nazi's then the Communists had deportet, mistreated and tried to erase our culture, society and history, which is why parts of our family had to live disguised as Christians for some time and we still have half of us Hirsch do so even to this day as a result of that (which I don't mind more holidays and presents
;D).
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Chapter 886: Mengjiang Khanate Navy and SNLF
Chapter 886: Mengjiang Khanate Navy and SNLF
Some might think the existence of the Mengjiang/ Mengkiang/ Mongukuo/ Mengguguo/ Mengkukuo Khanate Navy and Special Naval Landing Forces (SNLF) seamed illogical for a mostly landlocked nation state with Steppes and Deserts, but the Mengjiang/ Mongolians viewed these part of their forces, as a proud tradition and heritage from the times of the first Great Mongol Empire, when their massive fleets ruled the Chinese Sea and attempted to conquer the Japanese islands in an invasion. As a result of that, while their overall already few ships were immensely limited on Mengjiang/ Mongolian rivers and lakes, like the Kerulen River, Tuul Gol River, Orhon Gol River, Selenge Mörön River, Egiyn Gol River, Szavhan Gol River, Hövsgöl Nuur Lake, Bööntsagaan Nuur Lake, Har Nuur Lake, Hyargas Nuur Lake, or Uvs Nuur Lake. Most of their assets therefore were armored boats, patrol boats and gunboats. Because these Navy had no chance of ever encountering enemy naval forces, their overall heavy guns had mainly be replaced by anti-air weaponry, both against enemy air forces operating against them, as well as enemy infantry on the sides of the rivers and lakes they operated within. Similar to the Mengjiang Khanate Cavalry being the heir of the First Mongol Empire/ Khanate nomadic steppe cavalry, the Mengjiang Khanate Navy viewed itself as the proud heirs of the First Mongol Empire/ Khanate/ Yuan Dynasty fleets and navy. Because of their main focus against enemy air-forces and ground-forces, unlike any other navy and naval force in the world, the Mengjiang Khanate Navy ships and their crew of seaman also required a somewhat other overall training, including more crewmen trained in anti-air gun shootings, or in targeting lake and riverside targets that were not moving, unlike other navies and ship forces. Even at the top of the Second Great War never more then a few dozen vessels, the majority of which would be used to transport Mengjiang/ Mongolian oil faster and easier with better heavy support, the Mengjiang naval forces once more were one of a kind, even if this time for much different reasons, then their original First Mongolian Empire counterparts centuries ago.
As a result of all of this the Mengjiang/ Mongolian SNLF made up an overwhelming large part of their overall naval forces, often used as a more of Special River Landing Force (SRLF) with the goal to embark from ships to fight enemy bandits, gangs, raiders, guerrilla, rebel and even remnant of the Mongolian People’s Army behind the original frontlines. Especially in the northern parts of the Mongolian People’s Republic, Tunna Tuva and the Soviet Union border region, the Mengjiang Navy and SNLF/ SRLF would also be more cooperating with Mengjiang Army Forces against the Mongolian People’s Army and the Red Army of the Soviet Union alongside allied Japanese Army Forces. As a result some Mengjiang Army bombers and fighters were given to the Mengjiang Navy in this theater of the Mongolian/ Siberian Frontline against the Comintern to give much needed support against potential enemy heavy ground forces, fortifications and enemy air forces bombers and fighters alike. This made the Mengjiang Navy and SNLF/ SRLF one of the few naval forces in the world without any carriers, coastal and island naval bases, that still would possess, field and control a larger number of air forces themselves. The overall number of the Mengjiang Navy and SNLF/ SRLF however still remained overall limited, tiny even compared to the Mengjiang Army in the overall Mengjiang Armed Forces and together serve as the central zone against the Soviet Union, as well as the only one against the Mongolian People’s Republic and the Tuvan People’s Republic, as the Tibetans Buddhist Brothers of theirs covered the Left Flank and the Manchurian, alongside the Koreans and Japanese covered the Right Flank. Because of this more important role in the northern Monglian People’s Republic, Tunna Tuvan People’s Republic and Siberian Soviet Union, the Mengjiang Navy and SNLF/ SRLF felt like they had retaken their rightful position in their own new, second Mengjiang/ Mongolian Khanate/ Empire trough their own fighting spirit, battles and skirmishes, which was why members of the Mengjiang Navy and SNLF/ SRLF were even prouder then before and despite their in comparison to the Mengjiang Army felt like a true second arm of the Mengjiang Armed Forces equal to the Mengjiang Army itself.
Some might think the existence of the Mengjiang/ Mengkiang/ Mongukuo/ Mengguguo/ Mengkukuo Khanate Navy and Special Naval Landing Forces (SNLF) seamed illogical for a mostly landlocked nation state with Steppes and Deserts, but the Mengjiang/ Mongolians viewed these part of their forces, as a proud tradition and heritage from the times of the first Great Mongol Empire, when their massive fleets ruled the Chinese Sea and attempted to conquer the Japanese islands in an invasion. As a result of that, while their overall already few ships were immensely limited on Mengjiang/ Mongolian rivers and lakes, like the Kerulen River, Tuul Gol River, Orhon Gol River, Selenge Mörön River, Egiyn Gol River, Szavhan Gol River, Hövsgöl Nuur Lake, Bööntsagaan Nuur Lake, Har Nuur Lake, Hyargas Nuur Lake, or Uvs Nuur Lake. Most of their assets therefore were armored boats, patrol boats and gunboats. Because these Navy had no chance of ever encountering enemy naval forces, their overall heavy guns had mainly be replaced by anti-air weaponry, both against enemy air forces operating against them, as well as enemy infantry on the sides of the rivers and lakes they operated within. Similar to the Mengjiang Khanate Cavalry being the heir of the First Mongol Empire/ Khanate nomadic steppe cavalry, the Mengjiang Khanate Navy viewed itself as the proud heirs of the First Mongol Empire/ Khanate/ Yuan Dynasty fleets and navy. Because of their main focus against enemy air-forces and ground-forces, unlike any other navy and naval force in the world, the Mengjiang Khanate Navy ships and their crew of seaman also required a somewhat other overall training, including more crewmen trained in anti-air gun shootings, or in targeting lake and riverside targets that were not moving, unlike other navies and ship forces. Even at the top of the Second Great War never more then a few dozen vessels, the majority of which would be used to transport Mengjiang/ Mongolian oil faster and easier with better heavy support, the Mengjiang naval forces once more were one of a kind, even if this time for much different reasons, then their original First Mongolian Empire counterparts centuries ago.
As a result of all of this the Mengjiang/ Mongolian SNLF made up an overwhelming large part of their overall naval forces, often used as a more of Special River Landing Force (SRLF) with the goal to embark from ships to fight enemy bandits, gangs, raiders, guerrilla, rebel and even remnant of the Mongolian People’s Army behind the original frontlines. Especially in the northern parts of the Mongolian People’s Republic, Tunna Tuva and the Soviet Union border region, the Mengjiang Navy and SNLF/ SRLF would also be more cooperating with Mengjiang Army Forces against the Mongolian People’s Army and the Red Army of the Soviet Union alongside allied Japanese Army Forces. As a result some Mengjiang Army bombers and fighters were given to the Mengjiang Navy in this theater of the Mongolian/ Siberian Frontline against the Comintern to give much needed support against potential enemy heavy ground forces, fortifications and enemy air forces bombers and fighters alike. This made the Mengjiang Navy and SNLF/ SRLF one of the few naval forces in the world without any carriers, coastal and island naval bases, that still would possess, field and control a larger number of air forces themselves. The overall number of the Mengjiang Navy and SNLF/ SRLF however still remained overall limited, tiny even compared to the Mengjiang Army in the overall Mengjiang Armed Forces and together serve as the central zone against the Soviet Union, as well as the only one against the Mongolian People’s Republic and the Tuvan People’s Republic, as the Tibetans Buddhist Brothers of theirs covered the Left Flank and the Manchurian, alongside the Koreans and Japanese covered the Right Flank. Because of this more important role in the northern Monglian People’s Republic, Tunna Tuvan People’s Republic and Siberian Soviet Union, the Mengjiang Navy and SNLF/ SRLF felt like they had retaken their rightful position in their own new, second Mengjiang/ Mongolian Khanate/ Empire trough their own fighting spirit, battles and skirmishes, which was why members of the Mengjiang Navy and SNLF/ SRLF were even prouder then before and despite their in comparison to the Mengjiang Army felt like a true second arm of the Mengjiang Armed Forces equal to the Mengjiang Army itself.
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Chapter 887: The Yankoku Prince and Emperor
Chapter 887: The Yankoku Prince and Emperor
The Prince of Chün, also known as Pince Chun, Zaifeng, or Tsai Feng, the fifths son of Yixuang, who himself was the seventh son of the Daoguang Emperor, and the father of Puyi, the Last Emperor, making the Prince an adopted member of the Qing Dynasty, by one of the Concubines of the Emperor. A prince regent from 1908 to 1911 until the Xinhai Revolution overthrew the Qing Dnyasty, he original came from a Han Bannerman Family, the Liu (later Manchurized to Liugiya) as their marriage of his mother transferred them to the Manchu Banner. Close to the Guangxu Emperor.and having a close relationship to Empress Dowager Cixi, whose sister Yehenara Wanzhen was his primary consort. When his fiance committed suicide after being raped and humiliated by the foreign invaders, when the Eight-Nation Alliance occupied Beijing, during the Boxer Rebellion, he opposed Foreigners and Qing Chinese Nationalists alike. Evacuating Beijing to Xian, the foreign powers had used him as a special ambassador to the Qing government, which is how Zaifeng came to Germany and meet Kaiser Wilhelm II in Potsdam, but refused to kneel before him as they were equal royal imperial nobles. While he at first had planned to tour more of Europe including Belgium and London, these plans chancel out when the health of Empress Dowager Cixi deteriorated and he returned back to China, resulting in Zaifeng getting special appointments and important position in the imperial court. He would be ordered to marry the daughter of conservative politician Ronglu, a certain Youlan and a supporter of Prince Chun. Zaifeng disliked her freatly, as her father had played a leading role in the Hundred Day’s Reform of 1898 and intenred the Guangxu Emperor. Still to not directly oppose Cixi he married Ronglu’s daughter in an unhappy marriage out of which his sons Puyi, Pujie and the daughters Yunying, Yunhe and Yunying. The death of the Guangxu Emperor had seen his son Puyi adopted by Empress Dowager Cixi I, like the older Emperor before had been, with the death of Chun leaving him as the regent for three yeasrs. His first action was to punish Beiyang Army General Yuan Shikai for the betrayal during the Hundred Days' Reform in 1898, failed to assassinate Yuan Shikai , but had him removed from office.
After the Boxer Rebellion conservatives and reformist rivaled for control of the imperial court and a constitution was promised in 1916, creating 21 provincial assemblies, who send 98 delegates to the capital and a constitutional monarchy, while the other 100 members of the total 200 National Assembly members were appointed. Elected and appointed ones soon joined forces to create a true parliament and imperial cabinet, which angered the constitutionalism, while the Han Chinese were angered that 13 members of the National Assembly counted seven Manchu, even if tradition had been to elect eight of both groups. The Manchu now had more influential power in the dynasty then when they originally had taken over and planned to nationalize the railroads build by influential businessman. This sparked the Railway Protection Movement and set a course to revolution. Wang Jingwei even attempted to assassinate Zaifeng alienating the two of them further, with together with his own inability to lust for power later made him an ideal candidate for the Yankoku Imperial Throne in Beijing/ Peking that stood between and against both Manchu and Han Chinese, assuring his loyalty to Imperial Japan instead. With the Wuchang Uprising and Xinbei Revolution, so when he finally left power, Zaifeng was rather relieved and glad to spend more time with his family. His lack of interest in power and political affairs, combined with his interest in drama and culture also made him an ideal Imperial candidate in the eyes of Yan Xishan the ruler of Yankoku, even if his lack in business, low energy, low will power and grit, lack of courage and physical abilities as well as his well intentions meant he better was kept from any real power. Easily swayed by any good talekr and without major original ideas of his own, Yan Xishan believed he could easily tame, manipulate and use him as a figurehead. Even dethroned still respected by both Communist and Nationalist parties, mainly for his peaceful stepping down from power and allowing China to become a Republic, even Sun Yat-sen visited and congratulated him formerly for what he had done for the Republic of China. His own remnant small imperial court lasted from 1913 to 1924, as Pui’s return to the throne in 1917 was brief and he was kicked out of the Forbidden City in 1924.
His main consort Youlan, died of suicide by opium overdose in 1921 after being publicly scolded by Dowager Consort Duankang, who claimed she had misconducted her son Puyi and Zaifeng mostly spend his time reading historic books and newly published magazines, before moving to Tianjin in 1928, were he lived in the British, then the Japanese concession. When Tianjin flooded he relocated to Beijin shortly and he was opposed to Puyi taking over the Japanese created puppet empire of Manchukuo, wishing not to be involved in it, as it seamed to delegitimize the families claim on all of China. Claiming to be ill he never joined his son Puyi along with parts of the Imperial Family in Manchukuo and instead returned to Beijing, were soon the Japanese and Yan Xishan took over after the retreat of the Nationalist Forces of the Kuomintang. While no friend of the Japanese, he believed he could play them, as they favored him as an anti-Manchu/ Manchukuo and anti-Han Chinese candidate who would oppose both Puyi and Wang Jingwei with whom he had fallen out with before. With major influential political elements in Beijing, Northern China, yes all of China sympathetic to him, both he and Yan Xishan believed they could further legitimize one another and so Zaifeng announced his own Dynasty backed by the Yankoku people in opposition to Han National China and Manchukuo alike. While not Zaifeng end-goal was to reclaim all of former China, he supported Yankoku as a provisional power base, build a new libraries, a new university and even a new palace residence for himself and the parts of the former imperial dynasty who had remained with him, not Puyi and formed the new Yankoku Dynasty. His aid for victims for the victims of the 1938 Yellow River Flooding made him further beloved by the local Yankoku population, while his blame on the Chinese national Army and Kuomintang further alienated southern Han Nationalist China and Wang Jingwei, who still had claims on Yankoku before a new treaty between the members of the Co-Prosperity Sphere had all of them recognize each others border against one another. His new Dynasty Family name became Jin (Gold, or Golden) for the Yan State. Zaifeng support for his population and people, paired with Yan Xishan’s will of self-improvement, betterment and modernization would make the Yan Empire/ Yan State/ Yan Nation/ Yankoku one of the most prosperous ones in China, East Asia and the Co-Prosperity Sphere, especially as it saw little overall destruction or losses in manpower from the Second Great War itself and instead used it’s successors to keep nearby Mengjiang, Mnachu, Korean and Japanese armies running.
The Prince of Chün, also known as Pince Chun, Zaifeng, or Tsai Feng, the fifths son of Yixuang, who himself was the seventh son of the Daoguang Emperor, and the father of Puyi, the Last Emperor, making the Prince an adopted member of the Qing Dynasty, by one of the Concubines of the Emperor. A prince regent from 1908 to 1911 until the Xinhai Revolution overthrew the Qing Dnyasty, he original came from a Han Bannerman Family, the Liu (later Manchurized to Liugiya) as their marriage of his mother transferred them to the Manchu Banner. Close to the Guangxu Emperor.and having a close relationship to Empress Dowager Cixi, whose sister Yehenara Wanzhen was his primary consort. When his fiance committed suicide after being raped and humiliated by the foreign invaders, when the Eight-Nation Alliance occupied Beijing, during the Boxer Rebellion, he opposed Foreigners and Qing Chinese Nationalists alike. Evacuating Beijing to Xian, the foreign powers had used him as a special ambassador to the Qing government, which is how Zaifeng came to Germany and meet Kaiser Wilhelm II in Potsdam, but refused to kneel before him as they were equal royal imperial nobles. While he at first had planned to tour more of Europe including Belgium and London, these plans chancel out when the health of Empress Dowager Cixi deteriorated and he returned back to China, resulting in Zaifeng getting special appointments and important position in the imperial court. He would be ordered to marry the daughter of conservative politician Ronglu, a certain Youlan and a supporter of Prince Chun. Zaifeng disliked her freatly, as her father had played a leading role in the Hundred Day’s Reform of 1898 and intenred the Guangxu Emperor. Still to not directly oppose Cixi he married Ronglu’s daughter in an unhappy marriage out of which his sons Puyi, Pujie and the daughters Yunying, Yunhe and Yunying. The death of the Guangxu Emperor had seen his son Puyi adopted by Empress Dowager Cixi I, like the older Emperor before had been, with the death of Chun leaving him as the regent for three yeasrs. His first action was to punish Beiyang Army General Yuan Shikai for the betrayal during the Hundred Days' Reform in 1898, failed to assassinate Yuan Shikai , but had him removed from office.
After the Boxer Rebellion conservatives and reformist rivaled for control of the imperial court and a constitution was promised in 1916, creating 21 provincial assemblies, who send 98 delegates to the capital and a constitutional monarchy, while the other 100 members of the total 200 National Assembly members were appointed. Elected and appointed ones soon joined forces to create a true parliament and imperial cabinet, which angered the constitutionalism, while the Han Chinese were angered that 13 members of the National Assembly counted seven Manchu, even if tradition had been to elect eight of both groups. The Manchu now had more influential power in the dynasty then when they originally had taken over and planned to nationalize the railroads build by influential businessman. This sparked the Railway Protection Movement and set a course to revolution. Wang Jingwei even attempted to assassinate Zaifeng alienating the two of them further, with together with his own inability to lust for power later made him an ideal candidate for the Yankoku Imperial Throne in Beijing/ Peking that stood between and against both Manchu and Han Chinese, assuring his loyalty to Imperial Japan instead. With the Wuchang Uprising and Xinbei Revolution, so when he finally left power, Zaifeng was rather relieved and glad to spend more time with his family. His lack of interest in power and political affairs, combined with his interest in drama and culture also made him an ideal Imperial candidate in the eyes of Yan Xishan the ruler of Yankoku, even if his lack in business, low energy, low will power and grit, lack of courage and physical abilities as well as his well intentions meant he better was kept from any real power. Easily swayed by any good talekr and without major original ideas of his own, Yan Xishan believed he could easily tame, manipulate and use him as a figurehead. Even dethroned still respected by both Communist and Nationalist parties, mainly for his peaceful stepping down from power and allowing China to become a Republic, even Sun Yat-sen visited and congratulated him formerly for what he had done for the Republic of China. His own remnant small imperial court lasted from 1913 to 1924, as Pui’s return to the throne in 1917 was brief and he was kicked out of the Forbidden City in 1924.
His main consort Youlan, died of suicide by opium overdose in 1921 after being publicly scolded by Dowager Consort Duankang, who claimed she had misconducted her son Puyi and Zaifeng mostly spend his time reading historic books and newly published magazines, before moving to Tianjin in 1928, were he lived in the British, then the Japanese concession. When Tianjin flooded he relocated to Beijin shortly and he was opposed to Puyi taking over the Japanese created puppet empire of Manchukuo, wishing not to be involved in it, as it seamed to delegitimize the families claim on all of China. Claiming to be ill he never joined his son Puyi along with parts of the Imperial Family in Manchukuo and instead returned to Beijing, were soon the Japanese and Yan Xishan took over after the retreat of the Nationalist Forces of the Kuomintang. While no friend of the Japanese, he believed he could play them, as they favored him as an anti-Manchu/ Manchukuo and anti-Han Chinese candidate who would oppose both Puyi and Wang Jingwei with whom he had fallen out with before. With major influential political elements in Beijing, Northern China, yes all of China sympathetic to him, both he and Yan Xishan believed they could further legitimize one another and so Zaifeng announced his own Dynasty backed by the Yankoku people in opposition to Han National China and Manchukuo alike. While not Zaifeng end-goal was to reclaim all of former China, he supported Yankoku as a provisional power base, build a new libraries, a new university and even a new palace residence for himself and the parts of the former imperial dynasty who had remained with him, not Puyi and formed the new Yankoku Dynasty. His aid for victims for the victims of the 1938 Yellow River Flooding made him further beloved by the local Yankoku population, while his blame on the Chinese national Army and Kuomintang further alienated southern Han Nationalist China and Wang Jingwei, who still had claims on Yankoku before a new treaty between the members of the Co-Prosperity Sphere had all of them recognize each others border against one another. His new Dynasty Family name became Jin (Gold, or Golden) for the Yan State. Zaifeng support for his population and people, paired with Yan Xishan’s will of self-improvement, betterment and modernization would make the Yan Empire/ Yan State/ Yan Nation/ Yankoku one of the most prosperous ones in China, East Asia and the Co-Prosperity Sphere, especially as it saw little overall destruction or losses in manpower from the Second Great War itself and instead used it’s successors to keep nearby Mengjiang, Mnachu, Korean and Japanese armies running.
Strangely enough, I briefly thought this was in the Stargate Amaterasu timeline of yours, and was actually confused when I realized it wasn't. Dunno why, but it also seemed to fit there for some reason.
Or into the Chinese/ Yu one ^^ Maybe because of the image of him? Could not find any major one in better fitting clothes. Also good idea there might be a Yan world out there in my Stargate AU/TL.
Hope you still liked the chapter.
Not sure if I do the last one today, as I still need to cook for silvester dinner with my better half and our families coming in and since I don't want to get hit with a pan (I'm joking there is no violence in our household, would also not be wise on my part she's two head higher, stronger and can curse like a sailor
).Most likely will post the forth chapter tomorrow alongside new MandalorianS ones in the new year for time reasons.
Chapter 888: Mini-Submarine Carrier Submarines
Chapter 888: Mini-Submarine Carrier Submarines
The dominance of the British Empire and the United States of America throughout parts of the Atlantic and Pacific left he Axis Central Powers and the Co-Prosperity Sphere with little, or only limited methods to strike back at them, which was the reason why carrier submarines became more and more important. While some original ones were developed for carrying a few and alter a dozen aircraft and even infantry units unlike much more enemy submarine endangered regular transport ships, others were designed to carry midget-submarines, manned torpedoes and torpedo boats instead to raid shipping lines and even harbors way behind the frontlines, deep into enemy territory the Allies had assumed to be safe and secure. The Italians dominated this tactics and strategy in the Mediterranean, the Germans in the Atlantic and the Japanese in the Pacific. From original two to four airplanes and submarines carried in the first prototypes and generations, later models at the End of the Second Great War could carry between eight and a dozen, while larger underwater carriers especially during the Cold War became capable of transporting nearly as much as minor regular carriers, or even whole infantry units with their equipment without being able to be easily spotted from above. While their overall own offensive capabilities were limited, they served more as carriers for smaller units, to massively increase their own overall range, hunting grounds and potential attack targets. The Italian variants mostly operated from nearby Italian harbors and had overall a more limited range, while also much more then the other two major powers they would implement manned torpedoes and elite mine divers during their operations. The Germans meanwhile concentrated more on long-range carrier submarines for implementation in the Atlantic Ocean, both with diesel and battery engines to carry as much smaller submarines and float torpedo planes to reach even the most remote areas of the Mexican Gulf and the South Atlantic, without endangering the carrier submarines, which in comparison were also the most technological advanced and most modern of the Axis Central Powers. The Japanese versions meanwhile focused much more on long-range operations in the Pacific Ocean, both for themselves, as well as their midget-submariens, which thanks to the Long Lance Type 93 I Type 99 Torpedoes also could attack from a far greater, safer distance then any other Co-Prosperity Sphere and Axis Central Powers forces.
Post-Second Great War historians would greatly diverge, between Allied ones who saw many Axis Central Powers and Co-Prosperity Sphere early victories as a mixture of luck and skill, claiming that the new long range bomber, torpedo bomber and midget-submarine carrier submarines had a much larger overall impact to tie down Allied convoys and escorts over longer routes and anti-submarine search groups, then their overall success in Allied ship tonnage was ever worth it, both in costs of operating such convoys, prolonging and delaying any escorted shipments, while the Axis Central Powers and Co-Prosperity Sphere naval historians on the other hand believed more on the overall superiority of their tactics, strategies, as well as the will and the skills of their captains and crews against overwhelming odds and numbers. In reality both sides were not wrong, but to a mixed, different extent, partly also depending on the war year someone talked about. The overall massively increased range of some of the smaller midget-submarines, combined with their easier, faster build and numbers to cover a larger area in the target operation zone once transported there, made them ironically much more efficient, threatening and constraining to Allied ship convoys, escorts and search fleets then otherwise possible, even if sometimes the overall tonnage sunk by these ships was not very good, or at best inconsistent, partially also because the mini-submarines could only carry a certain small number of torpedoes themselves and even with their carrier/ mother submarines having more additional torpedoes inside of them, simply transferring them from the main ships to the midget submarines, even with additional cranes, partial submerging or skilled trained crews, besides the overall danger of handling he torpedo itself was even more dangerous the longer these submarines had to stay surfaced and had to remain not moving on the spot during such operations. This was the reason why some later models had special modules, some trough cranes or by tubes that could torpedo resupply mounted mini-submarines into their torpedo tubes, others had their midget-submarines partly docked directly into their own hull, enough to transfer the torpedoes from one inside to the other without even the need to stop or resurface, but even those methods remained dangerous and not all docking and putting these ships to sea was easy, or safe, not even with this special build types and modules, leading to the loss of some ships and veteran crew even without enemy interference.
The dominance of the British Empire and the United States of America throughout parts of the Atlantic and Pacific left he Axis Central Powers and the Co-Prosperity Sphere with little, or only limited methods to strike back at them, which was the reason why carrier submarines became more and more important. While some original ones were developed for carrying a few and alter a dozen aircraft and even infantry units unlike much more enemy submarine endangered regular transport ships, others were designed to carry midget-submarines, manned torpedoes and torpedo boats instead to raid shipping lines and even harbors way behind the frontlines, deep into enemy territory the Allies had assumed to be safe and secure. The Italians dominated this tactics and strategy in the Mediterranean, the Germans in the Atlantic and the Japanese in the Pacific. From original two to four airplanes and submarines carried in the first prototypes and generations, later models at the End of the Second Great War could carry between eight and a dozen, while larger underwater carriers especially during the Cold War became capable of transporting nearly as much as minor regular carriers, or even whole infantry units with their equipment without being able to be easily spotted from above. While their overall own offensive capabilities were limited, they served more as carriers for smaller units, to massively increase their own overall range, hunting grounds and potential attack targets. The Italian variants mostly operated from nearby Italian harbors and had overall a more limited range, while also much more then the other two major powers they would implement manned torpedoes and elite mine divers during their operations. The Germans meanwhile concentrated more on long-range carrier submarines for implementation in the Atlantic Ocean, both with diesel and battery engines to carry as much smaller submarines and float torpedo planes to reach even the most remote areas of the Mexican Gulf and the South Atlantic, without endangering the carrier submarines, which in comparison were also the most technological advanced and most modern of the Axis Central Powers. The Japanese versions meanwhile focused much more on long-range operations in the Pacific Ocean, both for themselves, as well as their midget-submariens, which thanks to the Long Lance Type 93 I Type 99 Torpedoes also could attack from a far greater, safer distance then any other Co-Prosperity Sphere and Axis Central Powers forces.
Post-Second Great War historians would greatly diverge, between Allied ones who saw many Axis Central Powers and Co-Prosperity Sphere early victories as a mixture of luck and skill, claiming that the new long range bomber, torpedo bomber and midget-submarine carrier submarines had a much larger overall impact to tie down Allied convoys and escorts over longer routes and anti-submarine search groups, then their overall success in Allied ship tonnage was ever worth it, both in costs of operating such convoys, prolonging and delaying any escorted shipments, while the Axis Central Powers and Co-Prosperity Sphere naval historians on the other hand believed more on the overall superiority of their tactics, strategies, as well as the will and the skills of their captains and crews against overwhelming odds and numbers. In reality both sides were not wrong, but to a mixed, different extent, partly also depending on the war year someone talked about. The overall massively increased range of some of the smaller midget-submarines, combined with their easier, faster build and numbers to cover a larger area in the target operation zone once transported there, made them ironically much more efficient, threatening and constraining to Allied ship convoys, escorts and search fleets then otherwise possible, even if sometimes the overall tonnage sunk by these ships was not very good, or at best inconsistent, partially also because the mini-submarines could only carry a certain small number of torpedoes themselves and even with their carrier/ mother submarines having more additional torpedoes inside of them, simply transferring them from the main ships to the midget submarines, even with additional cranes, partial submerging or skilled trained crews, besides the overall danger of handling he torpedo itself was even more dangerous the longer these submarines had to stay surfaced and had to remain not moving on the spot during such operations. This was the reason why some later models had special modules, some trough cranes or by tubes that could torpedo resupply mounted mini-submarines into their torpedo tubes, others had their midget-submarines partly docked directly into their own hull, enough to transfer the torpedoes from one inside to the other without even the need to stop or resurface, but even those methods remained dangerous and not all docking and putting these ships to sea was easy, or safe, not even with this special build types and modules, leading to the loss of some ships and veteran crew even without enemy interference.
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...somehow, this comes off as something that wouldn't be out of place in a spy flick, ridiculously impractical technology but strangely useful in the outlandish situations the hero/s find themselves in. Does that mean ITTL Lupin III isn't a master thief, but a Franco-Japanese spy for hire with a love-hate relationship with the law from being a mercenary and a half-breed, while also being jaw-dropping in his success rate?
As a great Lupin fan (I and III) I could see him being Franco-Indochinese-Japanese or something like that, should Giga (Manga) Douga (Anime) get into his direction, which I can see especially among colonial Japanese filmmakers were some remnant Eurpean history and stories remain for various reasons ;D
Sometimes yes, around 1/3 or half of the ideas for what I write however came from my better half, so she is to blame too haha
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Yankoku, Wang Jingwei Regime, Taikok, Yikoku and other uniforms planned, but some of the next chapters will also focus on more then just uniform looks and army organsiations and composition for the new nations and powers TTL. ;D
Also just one today (or tomorrow and not many at the weekend overall), because RL stuff and so on.
Also just one today (or tomorrow and not many at the weekend overall), because RL stuff and so on.
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Chapter 889: Capture of the D’Entrecasteaux Islands
Chapter 889: Capture of the D’Entrecasteaux Islands
To the East of the by now completely Japanese occupied New Guinea (Nuigui/ Nyugui), the Imperial Japanese Army defending the majority of the island, as well as the Imperial Japanese Navy aiding them, planned to secure this flank, as well as secure the southern flank of Rabaul as well, they gathered local forces, both from regional garrisons, as well as some fresh reinforcements of Japan, in the ambitious goal to secure new islands, both as a propaganda victory, as well as to station local artillery there to make any push back against New Guinea from the East much harder for the Allies, especially the Australians and Americans. Known as Operation Te, from Tenohira (Palm) after the jungles of the area, this operation was conducted, by a series of Japanese regular merchant ships, as well as some minor specialized landing craft, using up both that could have been used much, much better further East against Tuvalu, Vanatu, or New Caledonia, were the Japanese also planned operations, but would have to delay them because of minor ones like these here at the D’Entrecasteaux Islands. The irony of it all was not only that the Japanese actually had some well planned operation and landing operation, for imaginary Australian and American enemies, that were simply not present on these islands, but that this caused the occupation of Goodenough Island, Fergusson Island and Normanby Island to take even more time then otherwise needed. Further more, after this slow advance, the Japanese local defensive plan would use coastal batteries, artillery, light tanks and machine guns in well fortified positions and even bunkers, to defend not only the passages along the D’Entrecasteaux Islands, but also cover Goodenough Island, Fergusson Island and Normanby Island from one another in a well prepared local fortification, that simply ate more manpower and resources, that the Japanese would later lack in the defense of the Rest of New Guinea, the Salomon Oslands, or their renewed planned offensives and push against Tuvalu, Vanatu, or New Caledonia. Further more even some of the Light Tanks and Amphibious Tanks much more needed in this planned, future operation of the area to the East and South, had participated in the capture of the D’Entrecasteaux Islands instead and would stay there.
This was mainly because the local Japanese Commander and Officers would call them irreplaceable to strengthen the local defenses of the D’Entrecasteaux Islands, not only against enemy ships, but also Allied invasions to retake them, despite this never crossing the Allied minds, as they simply were much to isolated and easily to bypass and cut off. As a result some of these light tanks would actually be buried in trenches, or bunkers to make them better defensible positions, not only eliminating their former mobility, but also making them sitting ducks for enemy ship guns, or aircraft targeting them, as the buildup of the local defenses was not as secretive, as the Japanese had originally hoped. At the same time building these fortifications and garrisoning them on the D’Entrecasteaux Islands themselves, cost further Japanese labor, soldiers and resources, now missing elsewhere in much more crucial positions. As a result of that some requests were denied by Tokyo and instead of Japanese and Korean labor and soldier forces, the local Japanese commanders had to get the backup of some of the native islanders, including even some brought to the island from New Guinea itself, were they would be used as forced labor on the D’Entrecasteaux Islands. Many of these natives were never to return, many dying because of overall food shortages, often alongside Imperial Japanese and Korean soldiers, not often resupplied on the D’Entrecasteaux Islands, others trough abuse, or the harsh working conditions and quit a few were actually killed and cannibalized later on, as the local supply and food shortage became so severe, that long-term survival was otherwise no longer possible. At the very same time the original plans for the defenses of the D’Entrecasteaux Islands of Goodenough Island, Fergusson Island and Normanby Island also never reached the original planned defensive installation numbers, let alone garrison forces, meaning that overall their taking and occupation would be a net-loss for the Japanese in nearly every conceivable way and resulted in fuhrer losses, strategic and tactical setbacks across the whole area. Not only that this failure would be copied and doubled down upon with the occupation of the Louisiade Archipelago further south even worsening the overall situation more. Overall Japanese losses blamed on Allied resistance during the campaign, in reality was majorly because a reef and underwater rocks had been hit by landing boats, several troops engaged in overall friendly fire, assuming the others to be Allies forces and also because some Allied submarines actually would spot and hit some of the transport convoys for the invasion while they were on route to their target islands.
To the East of the by now completely Japanese occupied New Guinea (Nuigui/ Nyugui), the Imperial Japanese Army defending the majority of the island, as well as the Imperial Japanese Navy aiding them, planned to secure this flank, as well as secure the southern flank of Rabaul as well, they gathered local forces, both from regional garrisons, as well as some fresh reinforcements of Japan, in the ambitious goal to secure new islands, both as a propaganda victory, as well as to station local artillery there to make any push back against New Guinea from the East much harder for the Allies, especially the Australians and Americans. Known as Operation Te, from Tenohira (Palm) after the jungles of the area, this operation was conducted, by a series of Japanese regular merchant ships, as well as some minor specialized landing craft, using up both that could have been used much, much better further East against Tuvalu, Vanatu, or New Caledonia, were the Japanese also planned operations, but would have to delay them because of minor ones like these here at the D’Entrecasteaux Islands. The irony of it all was not only that the Japanese actually had some well planned operation and landing operation, for imaginary Australian and American enemies, that were simply not present on these islands, but that this caused the occupation of Goodenough Island, Fergusson Island and Normanby Island to take even more time then otherwise needed. Further more, after this slow advance, the Japanese local defensive plan would use coastal batteries, artillery, light tanks and machine guns in well fortified positions and even bunkers, to defend not only the passages along the D’Entrecasteaux Islands, but also cover Goodenough Island, Fergusson Island and Normanby Island from one another in a well prepared local fortification, that simply ate more manpower and resources, that the Japanese would later lack in the defense of the Rest of New Guinea, the Salomon Oslands, or their renewed planned offensives and push against Tuvalu, Vanatu, or New Caledonia. Further more even some of the Light Tanks and Amphibious Tanks much more needed in this planned, future operation of the area to the East and South, had participated in the capture of the D’Entrecasteaux Islands instead and would stay there.
This was mainly because the local Japanese Commander and Officers would call them irreplaceable to strengthen the local defenses of the D’Entrecasteaux Islands, not only against enemy ships, but also Allied invasions to retake them, despite this never crossing the Allied minds, as they simply were much to isolated and easily to bypass and cut off. As a result some of these light tanks would actually be buried in trenches, or bunkers to make them better defensible positions, not only eliminating their former mobility, but also making them sitting ducks for enemy ship guns, or aircraft targeting them, as the buildup of the local defenses was not as secretive, as the Japanese had originally hoped. At the same time building these fortifications and garrisoning them on the D’Entrecasteaux Islands themselves, cost further Japanese labor, soldiers and resources, now missing elsewhere in much more crucial positions. As a result of that some requests were denied by Tokyo and instead of Japanese and Korean labor and soldier forces, the local Japanese commanders had to get the backup of some of the native islanders, including even some brought to the island from New Guinea itself, were they would be used as forced labor on the D’Entrecasteaux Islands. Many of these natives were never to return, many dying because of overall food shortages, often alongside Imperial Japanese and Korean soldiers, not often resupplied on the D’Entrecasteaux Islands, others trough abuse, or the harsh working conditions and quit a few were actually killed and cannibalized later on, as the local supply and food shortage became so severe, that long-term survival was otherwise no longer possible. At the very same time the original plans for the defenses of the D’Entrecasteaux Islands of Goodenough Island, Fergusson Island and Normanby Island also never reached the original planned defensive installation numbers, let alone garrison forces, meaning that overall their taking and occupation would be a net-loss for the Japanese in nearly every conceivable way and resulted in fuhrer losses, strategic and tactical setbacks across the whole area. Not only that this failure would be copied and doubled down upon with the occupation of the Louisiade Archipelago further south even worsening the overall situation more. Overall Japanese losses blamed on Allied resistance during the campaign, in reality was majorly because a reef and underwater rocks had been hit by landing boats, several troops engaged in overall friendly fire, assuming the others to be Allies forces and also because some Allied submarines actually would spot and hit some of the transport convoys for the invasion while they were on route to their target islands.
Chapter 890: The Iberian Wall
Chapter 890: The Iberian Wall
During the Second World War the Axis Central Powers not only build the Atlantic Wall, but also a similar, albeit much smaller defensive line of bunkers, coastal artillery and anti-air in South Iberia, as the Situation in Africa, despite being a Stalemate for now did not look good should the Allies breck trough in Morocco and reach Southern Iberia and Southern Spain. With Axis Central Powers Air and Naval Power and Dominance in the East, the Mediterranean Coast is also seen as more secure, which is why the Western Southern Iberian Atlantic Coast is much better fortified then the Eastern South Iberian Mediterranean Coast with the Exception of the from the British captured Gibraltar as the main fortified peninsula point, which similar to like Pas de Calais in the Northern Atlantic Wall, became the most fortified and well defended point of the Southern Iberian Wall. Many of the Spanish Forces in the Atlantic Wall at the Western Portuguese, Western and Northern Spanish Coast that was part of the Atlantic Wall were actually equipped with some older, outdated German Equipment beside the Spanish ones, but also with some Italian Equipment gifted, or sold to Franco during or after the Spanish Civil War. Further more the Iberian Defenses were also supported by the German’s 16th Motorized Division along the 3rd and 16th Tank Division alongside the Iberian Mountain Army Corps stationed outside Madrid. This was mainly, because they were unsure if a Western Allied Invasion into Iberia would actually hit the Western and Northern Atlantic Coast Defensive Wall, or the Southern Atlantic and Mediterranean Coast Defensive Wall. Unlike France however, British stationed bombers would not reach the Iberian Coastal defenses easily to bomb them, at least not in Northern Iberia, while the South theoretically could be hit from Allied Air Bases in Morocco and North Africa in the Future much easier. Therefore a potential Western Allied Invasion into South Iberia was seen as most likely by the Central Iberian Axis Central Powers High Command in Madrid and the reason why the most heavy and staggered defenses could be found in the South of Iberia overall, especially inside of Southern Spain, were they centered around Andalusia, mainly Cadiz, Malaga, but also Huelva and Granada alike.
At the same time Spanish Anarchist, Socialist, Communists and remnant Maquis, Guerilleros and Resistance Fighter Remnants operated especially in this area of the Southern Baetic Mountains, potentially endangering and treating any main Axis Central Powers reinforcements coming from Madrid beside allied bombers, as they easily could blow up bridges across the Tojo, Guadiana and Guadalquivir Rivers before any of these supplies and reinforcements could even reach Seville and Granada in Southern Spain. Despite this need for adequate Air and Coastal Defenses, Iberia overall was ranked by the Axis Central Powers as the rest of the European defenses, with even the Atlantic Wall in France ranking higher in their defensive plans for Europe, despite ranking lower even then the main Greater German Defenses in the Greater United Netherlands, Germany and Denmark in Central Europe. Besides a main Spanish Army in Morocco and Portuguese Divisions helping alongside Fascist Royalist French, Italian and German Axis Central Power ones, the main Portuguese and Spanish Forces themselves remained in Iberia, despite a few additional Divisions being send East to aid in Barbarossa the Eastern Crusade against the Bolshevik Soviet Union. Despite that the Germans and some other Axis Central Powers had little overall believe in the Iberian Axis Central Powers of Spain and Portugal holding their peninsula by themselves. As a result the Germans had to keep forces in Iberia to ensure it’s security, even when the Western Allies would invade, with the Axis Central Powers hoping to use the rivers and mountains of Spain that had been such a pain during the Spanish Civil War to slow down any Allied Invasion until sufficient Axis Central Powers reinforcements from France, Italy, Germany or Central Europe would be capable to arrive in time before a Western Allies Beachhead would be secured enough, that the Axis Central Powers would be incapable of easily kicking them out of the Iberian Peninsula again. Meanwhile the Battle of Britain, going quit well for the Axis Central Powers so far despite heavy losses on both sides, allowed to relocate some bombers and fighters to Iberia and the Eastern Front alike.
During the Second World War the Axis Central Powers not only build the Atlantic Wall, but also a similar, albeit much smaller defensive line of bunkers, coastal artillery and anti-air in South Iberia, as the Situation in Africa, despite being a Stalemate for now did not look good should the Allies breck trough in Morocco and reach Southern Iberia and Southern Spain. With Axis Central Powers Air and Naval Power and Dominance in the East, the Mediterranean Coast is also seen as more secure, which is why the Western Southern Iberian Atlantic Coast is much better fortified then the Eastern South Iberian Mediterranean Coast with the Exception of the from the British captured Gibraltar as the main fortified peninsula point, which similar to like Pas de Calais in the Northern Atlantic Wall, became the most fortified and well defended point of the Southern Iberian Wall. Many of the Spanish Forces in the Atlantic Wall at the Western Portuguese, Western and Northern Spanish Coast that was part of the Atlantic Wall were actually equipped with some older, outdated German Equipment beside the Spanish ones, but also with some Italian Equipment gifted, or sold to Franco during or after the Spanish Civil War. Further more the Iberian Defenses were also supported by the German’s 16th Motorized Division along the 3rd and 16th Tank Division alongside the Iberian Mountain Army Corps stationed outside Madrid. This was mainly, because they were unsure if a Western Allied Invasion into Iberia would actually hit the Western and Northern Atlantic Coast Defensive Wall, or the Southern Atlantic and Mediterranean Coast Defensive Wall. Unlike France however, British stationed bombers would not reach the Iberian Coastal defenses easily to bomb them, at least not in Northern Iberia, while the South theoretically could be hit from Allied Air Bases in Morocco and North Africa in the Future much easier. Therefore a potential Western Allied Invasion into South Iberia was seen as most likely by the Central Iberian Axis Central Powers High Command in Madrid and the reason why the most heavy and staggered defenses could be found in the South of Iberia overall, especially inside of Southern Spain, were they centered around Andalusia, mainly Cadiz, Malaga, but also Huelva and Granada alike.
At the same time Spanish Anarchist, Socialist, Communists and remnant Maquis, Guerilleros and Resistance Fighter Remnants operated especially in this area of the Southern Baetic Mountains, potentially endangering and treating any main Axis Central Powers reinforcements coming from Madrid beside allied bombers, as they easily could blow up bridges across the Tojo, Guadiana and Guadalquivir Rivers before any of these supplies and reinforcements could even reach Seville and Granada in Southern Spain. Despite this need for adequate Air and Coastal Defenses, Iberia overall was ranked by the Axis Central Powers as the rest of the European defenses, with even the Atlantic Wall in France ranking higher in their defensive plans for Europe, despite ranking lower even then the main Greater German Defenses in the Greater United Netherlands, Germany and Denmark in Central Europe. Besides a main Spanish Army in Morocco and Portuguese Divisions helping alongside Fascist Royalist French, Italian and German Axis Central Power ones, the main Portuguese and Spanish Forces themselves remained in Iberia, despite a few additional Divisions being send East to aid in Barbarossa the Eastern Crusade against the Bolshevik Soviet Union. Despite that the Germans and some other Axis Central Powers had little overall believe in the Iberian Axis Central Powers of Spain and Portugal holding their peninsula by themselves. As a result the Germans had to keep forces in Iberia to ensure it’s security, even when the Western Allies would invade, with the Axis Central Powers hoping to use the rivers and mountains of Spain that had been such a pain during the Spanish Civil War to slow down any Allied Invasion until sufficient Axis Central Powers reinforcements from France, Italy, Germany or Central Europe would be capable to arrive in time before a Western Allies Beachhead would be secured enough, that the Axis Central Powers would be incapable of easily kicking them out of the Iberian Peninsula again. Meanwhile the Battle of Britain, going quit well for the Axis Central Powers so far despite heavy losses on both sides, allowed to relocate some bombers and fighters to Iberia and the Eastern Front alike.