geopolitics of Oil will be interesting in not the ottomans are rich rather reaction to said ottoman oil. Ottomans along with Iran could easily cartel the oil prices. This brings some interesting points Britain and Russia will want to keep Iran down as its the easier one. France may fight harder for Algeria due to oil fields. Ottomans and Iran may want to make sure Pakistan gets Kashmir for the link to China bypass russia altogather. Ironically silk road may come back to avoid russian domination. Japan has a option albeit far away so West Indies expansion may not be needed. However Britain, Russia, and France have enough oil fields and nor the need for enough oil ottoman oil tactics won't work all three can easily apply protectionist policies that will stop oil price drop. Germany is the wildcard here.
Osman Reborn; The Survival of Ottoman Democracy [An Ottoman TL set in the 1900s]
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I see, Brazil trying to overprice their rubber. However the OE should have another rubber producers on list, with Siam at the top, and focus the synthetic rubber for equipements, cloths and so on.
Unfortunately most of the african colonies with rubber are in european hands. But i think some of the centroamerican countries have a tiny output to export, of course not on the Siam levels. Maybe Aceh can complement the OE rubber supply?
Another point, im sure the OE didnt just wanted to import rubber, but to try and secure places to trade, isnt it?
I ‘m curious at what he is thinking about the current development of the empire , I remember reading a quote of him that I can’t find again lamenting about how he waited all his life for a general war between European powers to happen to take advantage and when it finally happen he si no longer in power and the Young Turk made the error to enter the war too early .
On another note I am the only one no longer have notification from the TL ?
I agree, but im sure the Rashid Arabia will demand a voice in fixing prices.
On a somehow related topic, OTL synthetic oil was discovered near 1925. Just sayin
oh yeah i left them out simply due my weakness in east arabian geography Ottomans annexed 7 miles of east arabia i have no idea if the otl saudi oil fields are ottoman or Rashidi.I agree, but im sure the Rashid Arabia will demand a voice in fixing prices.
On a somehow related topic, OTL synthetic oil was discovered near 1925. Just sayin
Synthetic exist doesn't mean it will be acted upon. Russia, Britain, and France all have Oil fields that provide all they need why destroy that card, again buisnesses don't innovate without cause. like wise latter two have enough influence that they can halt enemy actions against them from the porte.
abdul hamid is living freely under house arrest in salonika writing poems and drawing art. No matter his own views, he won't be coming back to power.
I agree, but im sure the Rashid Arabia will demand a voice in fixing prices.
On a somehow related topic, OTL synthetic oil was discovered near 1925. Just sayin
Rashidi Arabia has around 28% of otl Saudi oil fields.
Well Iran’s already screwed on that front sadly. The Anglo-Persian Oil Company(APOC) dominates the Iranian Oil Industry so it’s an asset of Great Britain’s.
Don’t forget the US state of Ohio is a major oil provider and no ones even discovered Texas’s vast reserves yet. Venezuela is also just discovering its first oil fields in a big way as well. So the Ottomans aren’t going to be sitting on a monopoly their just sitting on some good amount to make them a first amongst equals but not enough to hold the other powers by the balls and dictate terms whole sale.
Not saying they aren’t sitting on a literal gold mine and if they can reintegrate Kuwait even better, and the Rashidi by treaty with Britain is in the Ottoman sphere and can’t be touched the same way the Ottomans don’t fuck around in Oman. So the Ottomans could say screw if and annex the desert lands eventually.
yup the british and ottomans are not going to stick their heads in each other's spheres of influence.
Not really. They are british protectorates and after that ends, no one wants to cede their sovereignty
Actually Ottomans had something of an intelligence organisation in OTL:
en.m.wikipedia.org
Abdulhamid II died in February of 1918 in OTL
Special Organization (Ottoman Empire) - Wikipedia
Abdulhamid II died in February of 1918 in OTL
it was more of a semi independent tribal militia force than actual intelligence, thought it was extremely good at gathering intel.Actually Ottomans had something of an intelligence organisation in OTL:
Special Organization (Ottoman Empire) - Wikipedia
Abdulhamid II died in February of 1918 in OTL
Thats why said kashmir. Move it south tarim basin is no longer an option but conquest of tibet opens it up.
This is the first tl where russia wins seemingly like legit theres nothing that can stop them. Btw has the sokoto caliphate been dismantled?