List of Alternate Monarchs and Aristocratic Lineage

[Valena]

Thinking well over that scenario the most likely outcome is Maria Teresa marrying Leopold with Margarita to Karl Josef who will become Emperor AFTER the death of ATL Leopold I (aka Leopold Wilhelm).

Hmm... Interesting.
Maria Teresa to Leopold and Leopold Wilhelm to Dowager Empress (as was planned) makes sense from some points of view, yes.

Though this scenario is a nightmare for Elector Palatine Karl Ludwig - Leopold Wilhelm as the Emperor is definitely going to support his wayward brother in the ensuing land arbitration

 

[isabella]

Hmm... Interesting.
Maria Teresa to Leopold and Leopold Wilhelm to Dowager Empress (as was planned) makes sense from some points of view, yes.

Though this scenario is a nightmare for Elector Palatine Karl Ludwig - Leopold Wilhelm as the Emperor is definitely going to support his wayward brother in the ensuing land arbitration

In OTL Leopold Wilhelm was originally slated to be his brother’s successor as Leopold I was still too young for being elected as Emperor, but he refuted and Ferdinand’s reign was followed by a year of interregnum waiting for the majority of Leopold I, but if he is in Spain and Ferdinand’s heir was Karl Josef, Leopold Wilhelm would likely take the Imperial Crown for himself. Spain is more likely to wish the younger Leopold as King Consort for Maria Teresa as the boy has a (recent) claim to Spain from his mother and from their point of view a younger foreigner with Spanish blood not ready to rule is better than an older foreigner with a more distant kinship. I mean is not like Philip IV ruled his Empire in first person, right?

 

[HortenseMancini]

POD: Joan of England survives/doesn't contract the Black Death in 1348 and makes it to her marriage to Pedro of Castile. Pretty significant butterflies ensue. Thanks to @CaptainShadow for the suggestions so far.

Edward III, King of England (b. 1312, d. ?) m. Philippa of Hainault (b. c. 1310-1315, d. ?) in 1328, had issue

1) Edward IV, King of England (b. 1330, d. ?) m. Eleanor of Portugal (b. 1328, d. 1358) in 1351, had issue (a); Joan, 4th countess of Kent (b. 1326/1327, d. ?) in 1361, had issue (b)​

1a) Philippa of England (b. 1353, d. ?)​

2a) Beatrice of England (b. 1354, d. ?)​

3a) Edward of Windsor (b. and d. 1356)​

4a) Eleanor of England (b. and d. 1357)​

5b) Edward V, King of England (b. 1365, d. ?)​

6b) Richard of Bordeaux, Duke of York (b. 1367, d. ?)​

2) Isabella of England, Duchess of Brabant (b. 1332, d. ?) m. Henry V, Duke of Brabant (B. ?, d. ?) in 1356, had issue​

1) John IV, Duke of Brabant (b. 1357, d. ?) m. Joan of France (b. 1351, d. ?)​

2) Marie of Brabant (b. 1358, d. ?)​

3) Philippa of Brabant (b. 1360, d. ?)​

4) Henry of Brabant (b. 1361, d. ?)​

5) Joanna of Brabant (b. 1363, d. ?)​

6) Eduard of Brabant (b. 1366, d. 1367)​

7) Isabella of Brabant (b. 1367, d. 1372)​

3) Joan of England, Queen of Castile (b. 1333/1334, d. ?) m. Pedro I, King of Castile (b. 1334, d. ?) in 1348, had issue​

1) Constanza of Castile (b. 1351, d. ?) m. John I, King of Aragon (b. 1350)​

2) Beatriz of Castile (b. 1352, d. ?) m. Nuño Díaz de Haro, Lord of Lara and Biscay (b. 1348)​

3) Alfonso XII, King of Castile (b. 1354, d. ?) m. Eleanor of Aragon (b. 1358)​

4) Isabel of Castile (b. 1356, d. ?) m. Secondotto Paleologus, Marquess of Montferrat (b. 1358, d. ?)​

5) Fernando of Castile (b. 1358, d. 1359)​

6) Maria of Castile (b. 1361, d. ?) m. Charles III, King of Navarre (b. 1361)​

4) William of Hatfield (b. and d. 1336)​

5) Lionel of Antwerp, Duke of Clarence (b. 1338, d. ?) m. Elizabeth de Burgh, 4th Countess of Ulster (b. 1332, d. ?) in 1352, had issue​

1) Edward of Eltham, 2nd Duke of Clarence (b. 1355, d. ?)​

6) John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster (b. 1340, d. 1364) m. Blanche of Lancaster (b. 1342, d. ?) in 1359, had issue​

1) Philippa of Lancaster (b. and d. 1360)​

2) Henry of Kenilworth, 2nd Duke of Lancaster (b. 1362, d. ?)​

3) John of Burford, Duke of Hereford (b. 1363, d. ?)​

4) Edward (b. and d. 1365)​

7) Edmund of Langley, Duke of Cambridge (b. 1341, d. ?) m. Caterina Visconti (b. 1342, d. ?) in 1358, had issue​

1) Edoardo Plantagenet, Lord of Lodi, Parma, Piacenza, and Bologna (b. 1360, d. ?)​

8) Blanche of England (b. and d. 1342)​

9) Mary of Waltham, Duchess of Brittany (b. 1344, d. 1366) m. John IV, Duke of Brittany​

1) John (b. and d. 1364)​

2) Marie of Brittany (b. 1366, d. ?)​

10) Margaret of Windsor (b. 1346, d. 1348)​

11) Thomas (b. 1347, d. 1348)​

12) William of Windsor, Count of Armagnac (b. 1348, d. ?) m. Joan I, Countess of Armagnac (b. 1346, d. ?) in 1362, had issue​

1) William II, Count of Armagnac (b. 1364, d. 1382)​

2) Joan II, Countess of Armagnac (b. 1366, d. ?)​

3) Beatrice of Armagnac (b. 1367, d. ?)​

4) John (b. 1370, d. 1374)​

13) Thomas of Woodstock, Archbishop of Rouen (b. 1355, d. ?)​

- insert probable illegitimate issue here​

Ok, so, I've revised this a little...

Edward III, King of England (b. 1312, d. ?) m. Philippa of Hainault (b. c. 1310-1315, d. ?) in 1328, had issue

1) Edward IV, King of England (b. 1330, d. ?) m. Eleanor of Portugal (b. 1328, d. 1358) in 1351, had issue (a); Joan, 4th countess of Kent (b. 1326/1327, d. ?) in 1361, had issue (b)​

1a) Philippa of England (b. 1353, d. ?) m. Enguerrand VI de Coucy, Duke of Picardy​

2a) Beatrice of England (b. 1354, d. ?) m.​

3a) Edward of Windsor (b. and d. 1356)​

4a) Eleanor of England (b. and d. 1357)​

5b) Edward V, King of England (b. 1365, d. ?) m. Catherine of Valois (b. 1368)​

6b) Richard of Bordeaux, Duke of Hereford (b. 1367, d. ?) m. Eleanor de Bohun (b. 1366, d. ?)​

2) Isabella of England, Duchess of Brabant (b. 1332, d. ?) m. Henry V, Duke of Brabant (B. ?, d. ?) in 1356, had issue​

1) John IV, Duke of Brabant (b. 1357, d. ?) m. Joan of France (b. 1351, d. ?)​

2) Marie of Brabant (b. 1358, d. ?)​

3) Philippa of Brabant (b. 1360, d. ?)​

4) Henry of Brabant (b. 1361, d. ?)​

5) Joanna of Brabant (b. 1363, d. ?)​

6) Eduard of Brabant (b. 1366, d. 1367)​

7) Isabella of Brabant (b. 1367, d. 1372)​

3) Joan of England, Queen of Castile (b. 1333/1334, d. ?) m. Pedro I, King of Castile (b. 1334, d. ?) in 1348, had issue​

1) Constanza of Castile (b. 1351, d. ?) m. John I, King of Aragon (b. 1350)​

2) Beatriz of Castile (b. 1352, d. ?) m. Nuño Díaz de Haro, Lord of Lara and Biscay (b. 1348)​

3) Alfonso XII, King of Castile (b. 1354, d. ?) m. Eleanor of Aragon (b. 1358)​

4) Isabel of Castile (b. 1356, d. ?) m. Ottone Paleologus, Marquess of Montferrat (b. 1358, d. ?)​

5) Fernando of Castile (b. 1358, d. 1359)​

6) Maria of Castile (b. 1361, d. ?) m. Charles III, King of Navarre (b. 1361)​

4) William of Hatfield (b. and d. 1336)​

5) Lionel of Antwerp, Duke of Clarence (b. 1338, d. ?) m. Elizabeth de Burgh, 4th Countess of Ulster (b. 1332, d. ?) in 1352, had issue​

1) Edward of Eltham, 2nd Duke of Clarence (b. 1355, d. ?)​

6) John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster (b. 1340, d. 1364) m. Blanche of Lancaster (b. 1342, d. ?) in 1359, had issue​

1) Philippa of Lancaster (b. and d. 1360)​

2) Henry of Kenilworth, 2nd Duke of Lancaster (b. 1362, d. ?)​

3) John of Burford, Duke of Richmond (b. 1363, d. ?) m. Mary de Bohun (b. 1369/1370, d. ?)​

4) Edward (b. and d. 1365)​

7) Edmund of Langley, Duke of Cambridge (b. 1341, d. ?) m. Margaret II, Countess of Flanders (1351-?) in 1364, had issue​

1) Edward, Count of Flanders, Duke of Cambridge (1369-?) m. Yolande of Bar (1365-?)​

2) William, Count of Artois (1372-?)​

3) Margaret (1374-?)​

4) Philippa (1376-1382)​

5) John, Count of Nevers and Rethel (1379-?)​

8) Blanche of England (b. and d. 1342)​

9) Mary of Waltham, Duchess of Brittany (b. 1344, d. 1366) m. John IV, Duke of Brittany​

1) John (b. and d. 1364)​

2) Marie of Brittany (b. 1366, d. ?)​

10) Margaret of Windsor (b. 1346, d. 1348)​

11) Thomas (b. 1347, d. 1348)​

12) William of Windsor, Count of Armagnac (b. 1348, d. ?) m. Joan I, Countess of Armagnac (b. 1346, d. ?) in 1362, had issue​

1) William II, Count of Armagnac (b. 1364, d. 1382)​

2) Joan II, Countess of Armagnac (b. 1366, d. ?) m. Infante Philippe of Navarre (1368-?)​

3) Beatrice of Armagnac (b. 1367, d. ?)​

4) John (b. 1370, d. 1374)​

13) Thomas of Woodstock, Duke of Aumale (b. 1355, d. ?) m. Violante Visconti (b. 1354, d. ?) in 1368, had issue​

1) Galeazzo Plantagenet, Lord of Alba, Duke of Aumale, etc. (b. 1372, d. ?)​

 

[VVD0D95]

POD: Muhammed Akbar Khan does not die and Afghanistan remains a monarchy.

Mohammed Zahir Shah (b.1914: d.1980) m Humaira Begum (b.1918: d.2002)

Issue:

Princess Bilqis Begum (b.1932) m Abdul Wali Kahn in 1951 had issue

King Muhammed Akbar Khan (b.1933)

Prince Ahmad Shah Khan (b.1934) m Khatul Begum in 1961 had issue

Princess Maryam Begum (b.1936)

Prince Muhammed Nadir Khan (b.1941) m Liluma Begum in 1964 had issue

Prince Shah Mahmoud Khan (b.1946: d.2002) m Safura Begum in 1966 had issue

Prince Muhammed Daoud Khan (b.1949) m Fatima Begum in 1973 had issue

Prince Mir Wais Khan (b.1957)

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King Muhammed Akbar Khan (b.1933) m Latifa bint Abdulaziz Al Saud (b.1935) in 1955

Issue:

Crown Prince Mohammed Dost Khan (b.1956)

stillborn daughter (b.1957: d.1957)

Princess Latifa Begum (b.1959)

Prince Ahmad Shah Khan (b.1961)

Prince Abdul Muhammed Khan (b.1964)

stillborn son (b.1966: d.1966)

Princess Humaira Begum (b.1969)

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[HortenseMancini]

POD: Baltasar Carlos, Prince of Asturias survives his OTL death in 1646...butterflies ensue, notably King Felipe IV dying in 1650. Created with @TheBookwormBoy

Baltasar Carlos, rey de España (1629-?) m. Maria Anna von Österreich (1634-1652) in 1648, had issue (a); Catarina de Bragança (1638-?) in 1654, had issue (b)

1a) Margarita Ambrosia, infanta de España (1651-?) m. Charles Emmanuel II, duc de Savoie (1634-?)​

2b) Miguel I, rey de España (Miguel Inocente; 1655-?) m. Claudia Felizitas von Österreich-Tirol (1653-?)​

3b) Juan Felipe, infante de España (1657-?) m. ?​

4b) Luisa Isabel, infanta de España (1660-?) m. Teodósio II, rei de Portugal (1659-?)​

5b) Francisco Teodosio, infante de España (1663-1663)​

6b) Catalina Carlota, infanta de España (1666-1666)​

7b) Juana Maria Teresa, infanta de España (1669-1669)​

Charles II, King of England (1630) m. Marguerite Louise d'Orléans (1645)

1) Charles III, King of England (1662-?)​

2) Henry Stuart, Duke of Clarence (1663-?)​

3) Anne Mary Louisa Stuart (1665-?)​

4) Charlotte Stuart (1667-?)​

5) James Stuart, Duke of Gloucester (1670-?)​

6) Louisa Henrietta Stuart (1672-?)​

Teodósio I, rei de Portugal (1634-?) m. Anne Marie Louise d'Orléans, duchesse de Montpensier (1627-?)

1) Teodósio II, rei de Portugal (1659-?) m. Luisa Isabel, infanta de España (1660-?)​

Marie Françoise Élisabeth de Savoie-Nemours (1646-?) m. Afonso de Bragança, Duque de Beja (1643-?) in 1661, had issue

1) João, 2.º Duque de Beja (1663-?)​

2) Maria Luisa, infanta de Portugal (1664-?)​

3) Afonso, infante de Portugal e bispo da Guarda (1667-?)​

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I think we're both aware of the relative unlikelihood of a Braganza-Habsburg match at this point but we love Baltasar Carlos and Catarina sooo. Oh, and as for D. Afonso and Marie Françoise's children, well, let's just say that King Teodósio is a busy man...

 

[Kynan]

Scenario: Andrew of Hungary is not murdered in 1345.

Joanna I, Queen of Naples (b.1325: d.1389) m. Andrew of Hungary, King of Hungary (b.1327: d.1375) (a)

1a) Charles Martel, Prince of Naples (b.1345: d.1348)​

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2a) Maria, Princess of Naples (b.1347: d.1348)​

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3a) Robert II, King of Naples (b.1348: d.1404) m. Isabella, Princess of France (b.1348: d.1375) (a), Maria, Queen of Sicily (b.1363: d.1401) (b)​

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1a) Joanna, Princess of Naples (b.1363: d.1369)​

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2a) Charles, Duke of Calabria (b.1364: d.1373)​

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3a) Stillborn Son (c.1366)​

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4a) Maria, Princess of Naples (b.1367: d.1428) m. Philip of Artois, Count of Eu (b.1358: d.1397) (a)​

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1a) Joan of Artois (b.1390: d.1400)​

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2a) Stillborn Son (c.1392)​

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3a) Bonne of Artois (b.1395)​

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4a) John II of Artois, Count of Eu (b.1397)​

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5a) Elizabeth, Princess of Naples (b.1370: d.1430) m. Louis, Duke of Orleans and Calois (b.1372: d.1407) (a)​

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1a) Marie d'Orleans (b.1390)​

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2a) Louis, Duke of Orleans (b.1392: d.1428) m. Valentina Visconti (b.1390: d.1467) (a)​

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- had issue​

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3a) Charles, Count of Vertus (b.1393)​

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4a) John d'Orleans (b.1394: d.1394)​

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5a) Margaret d'Orleans (b.1395)​

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6a) Henri d'Orleans (b.1397: d.1397)​

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7a) Antoine, Count of Angouleme (b.1398)​

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8a) Jeanne d'Orleans (b.1400: d.1400)​

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9a) Catherine d'Orleans (b.1402: d.1403)​

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10a) Peter, Count of Soissons (b.1404)​

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11a) Charlotte d'Orleans (b.1405)​

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6a) Stillborn Son (c.1372)​

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7a) Louis, Prince of Naples (b.1374: d.1374)​

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8b) Andrew II, King of Naples and Sicily (b.1383: d.1418) m. Isabella, Duchess of Lorraine (b.1400: d.1453) (a)​

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1a) Thomas I, King of Naples and Sicily, Duke of Lorraine (b.1417)​

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2a) Maria, Princess of Naples and Sicily (b.1418)​

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9b) Stillborn Daughter (c.1387)​

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10b) Constance, Princess of Naples and Sicily (b.1390: d.1411) m. Edward, King of Portugal (b.1491: d.1438) (a)​

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- had no issue​

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11b) Frederick, Prince of Naples and Sicily (b.1393: d.1393)​

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12b) Margaret, Princess of Naples and Sicily (b.1394: d.1396)​

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13b) Bianca, Princess of Naples and Sicily (b.1397: d.1450) m. John VIII of Harcourt, Count of Aumale (b.1396: d.1424) (a), Otto I, Count Palatine of Mosbach (b.1390: d.1461) (b)​

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1b) Margaret of Palatinate-Mosbach (b.1426: d.1440)​

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2b) Louise of Palatinate-Mosbach (b.1427: d.1430)​

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3b) Otto II, Count Palatine of Mosbach (b.1430)​

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4b) Anne of Palatinate-Mosbach (b.1432: d.1432)​

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5b) Dorothea of Palatinate-Mosbach (b.1434)​

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14b) Stillborn Daughter (c.1398)​

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15b) Eleanor, Princess of Naples and Sicily (b.1400: d.1400)​

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4a) Stillborn Son (c.1350)​

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5a) Stephen, Duke of Durazzo (b.1352: d.1372) m. Joanna of Durazzo (b.1344: d.1389) (a)​

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- had no issue​

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6a) Stillborn Daughter (c.1354)​

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7a) Joanna, Princess of Naples (b.1355: d.1355)​

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8a) Sancia, Princess of Naples (b.1358: d.1411) m. Robert of Artois (b.1356: d.1375) John I, King of Aragon (b.1350: d.1396) (b) -annulled 1379-, John III, Marquis of Montferrat (b.1362: d.1381) (c), Gian Galeazzo Visconti, Duke of Milan (b.1351: d.1402) (d)​

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1b) Stillborn Son (c.1379)​

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2c) Azzone Visconti, Duke of Milan (b.1385: d.1435) m. Catherine of Austria (b.1385: d.1420) (a), Sophia of Montferrat (c.1400: d.1434) (b)​

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1b) Ludovico Visconti, Duke of Milan (b.1422)​

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3c) Stillborn Son (c.1388)​

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4c) Valentina Visconti (b.1390: d.1467) m. Louis, Duke of Orleans (b.1392: d.1428) (a)​

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1a) Marie d'Orleans (b.1409: d.1409)​

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2a) Francois, Duke of Orleans (b.1412)​

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3a) Stillborn Son (c.1413)​

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4a) Sophie d'Orleans (b.1417)​

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5a) John, Count of Blois (b.1419)​

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5c) Stillborn Daughter (c.1393)​

 

[Deleted member 81475]

Robert of Artois (b.1356: d.1375)

1a) Stillborn Son (c.1379)

John I, King of Aragon (b.1350: d.1396) (b) -annulled 1379-

Interpreting this as him throwing a huge tantrum that his son was stillborn and accusing his wife of causing it by cuckolding him with her four-years-dead husband's ghost.

 

[Kynan]

Interpreting this as him throwing a huge tantrum that his son was stillborn and accusing his wife of causing it by cuckolding him with her four-years-dead husband's ghost.

whoops fixed thank you

 

[Kynan]

Scenario: Basically this. Philip dies in 1545, Mary lives until 1598, Don Carlos (after Elisabeth of Valois' death) tries to invade England, forcing Elizabeth to marry Darnley at Mary's demand. Carlos, love thrawted, marries Mary, Queen of Scots.

Philip II, King of Spain (b.1527: d.1558) m. Maria Manuela, Infanta of Portugal (b.1527: d.1545) (a), Mary I, Queen of Spain (b.1516: d.1598) (b)

1a) Charles II, King of Spain (b.1545; d.1579) m. Elisabeth, Princess of France (b.1545: d.1564) (a), Mary I, Queen of Scotland (b.1542: d.1596) (b)​

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1a) Philip III, King of Spain and Portugal (b.1561: d.1588) m. Margaret, Archduchess of Austria (b.1567: d.1633) (a)​

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1a) Philip IV, King of Spain and Portugal (b.1588)​

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2a) Isabella Manuela, Infanta of Spain (b.1563: d.1599) m. Charles Emmanuel I, Duke of Savoy (b.1562: d.1630) (a)​

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1a) Charles Victor I, Duke of Savoy (b.1583)​

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2a) Philip Ludovico of Savoy (b.1585: d.1587)​

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3a) Beatrice of Savoy (b.1586)​

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4a) Amadeus of Savoy (b.1588: d.1656) - cardinal​

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5a) Giovanna of Savoy (b.1590)​

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6a) Margaret of Savoy (b.1591: d.1592)​

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7a) Francesco of Savoy (b.1592: d.1595)​

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8a) Apollonia Maria of Savoy (b.1595)​

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9a) Isabella of Savoy (b.1598: d.1600)​

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3a) Stillborn Son (c.1564)​

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4b) James VI, King of Scotland (b.1567: d.1619) m. Anna Caterina Gonzaga (b.1566: d.1621) (a)​

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1a) Stillborn Son (c.1584)​

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2a) Margaret I, Queen of Scotland (b.1586)​

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3a) James, Duke of Rothesay (b.1587: d.1590)​

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4a) Catherine, Princess of Scotland (b.1588)​

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5a) Stillborn Son (c.1590)​

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6a) Charles, Duke of Rothesay (b.1593: d.1599)​

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7a) Mary, Princess of Scotland (b.1595)​

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5b) Charles, Duke of Albany (b.1568: d.1581)​

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6b) Margaret, Princess of Spain and Scotland (b.1570: d.1593) m. Charles I, King of England (b.1568: d.1630) (a)​

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- had no issue​

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7b) Ferdinand, Prince of Spain and Scotland (b.1573: d.1573)​

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8b) Michelle, Princess of Spain and Scotland (b.1576: d.1617) m. Ernest, Archduke of Austria (b.1553: d.1595) (a), Henry IV, King of France and Navarre (b.1553: d.1610) (b)​

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1a) Margaret, Archduchess of Austria (b.1594)​

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2b) Elisabeth, Princess of France (b.1600)​

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3b) Cecile Marie, Princess of France (b.1601)​

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4b) Louis, Dauphin of France (b.1602: d.1605)​

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5b) Henri V, King of France (b.1604)​

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6b) Louise, Princess of France (b.1606)​

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7b) Nicholas, Duke of Orleans (b.1609)​

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Elizabeth I, Queen of England and Ireland (b.1533: d.1603) m. Henry Stuart, Duke of Clarence (b.1545: d.1569) (a)

1a) Henry Stuart, Earl of March (b.1566: d.1568)​

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2a) Charles I, King of England and Ireland (b.1568: d.1630) m. Margaret, Princess of Spain and Scotland (b.1570: d.1593) (a), Maria de Medici (b.1575: d.1642) (b)​

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1b) Philip Stuart, Prince of Wales (b.1595: d.1609)​

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2b) Charles Stuart, Duke of York (b.1597: d.1600)​

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3b) Henry IX, King of England and Ireland (b.1599)​

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4b) Eleanor Stuart, Princess of England and Ireland (b.1602)​

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5b) Ferdinand Stuart, Duke of York (b.1604)​

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6b) Elizabeth Stuart, Princess of England and Ireland (b.1605: d.1610)​

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7b) George Stuart, Duke of Gloucester (b.1606)​

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8b) Sophie Stuart, Princess of England and Ireland (b.1608)​

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9b) Philip Stuart, Duke of Cambridge (b.1610: d.1618)​

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10b) Mary Stuart, Princess of England and Ireland (b.1611: d.1611)​

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11b) Anne Stuart, Princess of England and Ireland (b.1612)​

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3a) Edward Stuart, Duke of Clarence (b.1570: d.1602) m. Dorothy Stafford (c.1570: d.1639) (a)​

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1a) Jasper Stuart, Duke of Clarence (b.1594)​

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2a) Louise Stuart of Clarence (b.1597)​

 

[Deleted member 147978]

Scenario: Basically this. Philip dies in 1545, Mary lives until 1598, Don Carlos (after Elisabeth of Valois' death) tries to invade England, forcing Elizabeth to marry Darnley at Mary's demand. Carlos, love thrawted, marries Mary, Queen of Scots.

Philip II, King of Spain (b.1527: d.1558) m. Maria Manuela, Infanta of Portugal (b.1527: d.1545) (a), Mary I, Queen of Spain (b.1516: d.1598) (b)

1a) Charles II, King of Spain (b.1545; d.1579) m. Elisabeth, Princess of France (b.1545: d.1564) (a), Mary I, Queen of Scotland (b.1542: d.1596) (b)​

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1a) Philip III, King of Spain and Portugal (b.1561: d.1588) m. Margaret, Archduchess of Austria (b.1567: d.1633) (a)​

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1a) Philip IV, King of Spain and Portugal (b.1588)​

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2a) Isabella Manuela, Infanta of Spain (b.1563: d.1599) m. Charles Emmanuel I, Duke of Savoy (b.1562: d.1630) (a)​

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1a) Charles Victor I, Duke of Savoy (b.1583)​

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2a) Philip Ludovico of Savoy (b.1585: d.1587)​

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3a) Beatrice of Savoy (b.1586)​

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4a) Amadeus of Savoy (b.1588: d.1656) - cardinal​

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5a) Giovanna of Savoy (b.1590)​

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6a) Margaret of Savoy (b.1591: d.1592)​

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7a) Francesco of Savoy (b.1592: d.1595)​

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8a) Apollonia Maria of Savoy (b.1595)​

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9a) Isabella of Savoy (b.1598: d.1600)​

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3a) Stillborn Son (c.1564)​

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4b) James VI, King of Scotland (b.1567: d.1619) m. Anna Caterina Gonzaga (b.1566: d.1621) (a)​

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1a) Stillborn Son (c.1584)​

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2a) Margaret I, Queen of Scotland (b.1586)​

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3a) James, Duke of Rothesay (b.1587: d.1590)​

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4a) Catherine, Princess of Scotland (b.1588)​

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5a) Stillborn Son (c.1590)​

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6a) Charles, Duke of Rothesay (b.1593: d.1599)​

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7a) Mary, Princess of Scotland (b.1595)​

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5b) Charles, Duke of Albany (b.1568: d.1581)​

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6b) Margaret, Princess of Spain and Scotland (b.1570: d.1593) m. Charles I, King of England (b.1568: d.1630) (a)​

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- had no issue​

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7b) Ferdinand, Prince of Spain and Scotland (b.1573: d.1573)​

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8b) Michelle, Princess of Spain and Scotland (b.1576: d.1617) m. Ernest, Archduke of Austria (b.1553: d.1595) (a), Henry IV, King of France and Navarre (b.1553: d.1610) (b)​

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1a) Margaret, Archduchess of Austria (b.1594)​

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2b) Elisabeth, Princess of France (b.1600)​

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3b) Cecile Marie, Princess of France (b.1601)​

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4b) Louis, Dauphin of France (b.1602: d.1605)​

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5b) Henri V, King of France (b.1604)​

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6b) Louise, Princess of France (b.1606)​

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7b) Nicholas, Duke of Orleans (b.1609)​

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Elizabeth I, Queen of England and Ireland (b.1533: d.1603) m. Henry Stuart, Duke of Clarence (b.1545: d.1569) (a)

1a) Henry Stuart, Earl of March (b.1566: d.1568)​

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2a) Charles I, King of England and Ireland (b.1568: d.1630) m. Margaret, Princess of Spain and Scotland (b.1570: d.1593) (a), Maria de Medici (b.1575: d.1642) (b)​

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1b) Philip Stuart, Prince of Wales (b.1595: d.1609)​

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2b) Charles Stuart, Duke of York (b.1597: d.1600)​

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3b) Henry IX, King of England and Ireland (b.1599)​

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4b) Eleanor Stuart, Princess of England and Ireland (b.1602)​

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5b) Ferdinand Stuart, Duke of York (b.1604)​

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6b) Elizabeth Stuart, Princess of England and Ireland (b.1605: d.1610)​

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7b) George Stuart, Duke of Gloucester (b.1606)​

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8b) Sophie Stuart, Princess of England and Ireland (b.1608)​

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9b) Philip Stuart, Duke of Cambridge (b.1610: d.1618)​

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10b) Mary Stuart, Princess of England and Ireland (b.1611: d.1611)​

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11b) Anne Stuart, Princess of England and Ireland (b.1612)​

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3a) Edward Stuart, Duke of Clarence (b.1570: d.1602) m. Dorothy Stafford (c.1570: d.1639) (a)​

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1a) Jasper Stuart, Duke of Clarence (b.1594)​

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2a) Louise Stuart of Clarence (b.1597)​

What? No union of the Crowns ITTL?
Who's going to rule Scotland if the House of Stuart rules only England and Ireland?

 

[wwbgdiaslt]

George I of Great Britain and Hanover, b. 1660, r. 1714 to 1727, m. Sophia Dorothea of Celle
-- 1) George II of Great Britain and Hanover, 1683, r. 1727 to 1760, m. Caroline of Ansbach

a) Frederick, Prince of Wales, b. 1707, d. 1751, m. Augusta of Saxe Gotha​

-- 1) Augusta of Great Britain, b. 1737, r. 1760 to 1813, m. Charles William Ferdinand, Duke of Brunswick​

a) Augusta of Great Britain and Brunswick, b. 1764, d. 1788, m. Frederick, Duke of Wurttemburg​

-- 1) William I, III and IV of Great Britain and Wurttemburg, b. 1781, r. 1813 to 1864, m1. Caroline Augusta of Bavaria, m2. Catherine Pavlovna of Russia, m3. Pauline of Wurttemburg​

2a) Mary III of Great Britain, b. 1816, r. 1864 to 1887, m. Alfred, Count von Neipperg​

3a) Catherine of Great Britain, b. 1821, r. 1887 to 1898, m. Frederick of Wurttemburg​

-- 1) William III, IV and V of Great Britain and Wurttemburg, b. 1848, r. 1898 to 1921, m1. Marie of Waldeck and Pymont, m2. Charlotte of Schaumberg Lippe​

1a) Helena of Great Britain, b. 1877, r. 1921 to 1965, m. William Frederick, Prince of Weid​

3b) Augusta of Great Britain and Wurttemburg, b. 1826, d. 1898, m. Hermann of Saxe Weimar Eisenach​

-- 1) Pauline of Saxe Weimar Eisenach, b. 1853, d. 1904, m. Charles Augustus, Hereditary Grand Duke of Saxe Weimar Eisenach​

a) William Ernest, Grand Duke of Saxe Weimar Eisenach, b. 1876, d. 1923, m1. Caroline Reuss of Greiz, m2. Feodora of Saxe Meiningen​

-- 2a) Sophie of Great Britain, b. 1911, r. 1965 to 1988, m. Friedrich Gunther, Prince of Schwarzburg​

-- 2c) Charles Augustus, Hereditary Grand Duke of Saxe Weimar Eisenach, b. 1912, d. 1988​

a) Elizabeth I and II of Great Britain, b. 1945, r. 1988 to Present, Mindert Diedrich De Kant​

 

[Saya Aensland]

What? No union of the Crowns ITTL?
Who's going to rule Scotland if the House of Stuart rules only England and Ireland?

That would be the Habsburgs.

Philip II, King of Spain (b.1527: d.1558) m. Maria Manuela, Infanta of Portugal (b.1527: d.1545) (a), Mary I, Queen of Spain (b.1516: d.1598) (b)

1a) Charles II, King of Spain (b.1545; d.1579) m. Elisabeth, Princess of France (b.1545: d.1564) (a), Mary I, Queen of Scotland (b.1542: d.1596) (b)​

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4b) James VI, King of Scotland (b.1567: d.1619) m. Anna Caterina Gonzaga (b.1566: d.1621) (a)​

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1a) Stillborn Son (c.1584)​

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2a) Margaret I, Queen of Scotland (b.1586)​

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3a) James, Duke of Rothesay (b.1587: d.1590)​

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4a) Catherine, Princess of Scotland (b.1588)​

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5a) Stillborn Son (c.1590)​

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6a) Charles, Duke of Rothesay (b.1593: d.1599)​

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7a) Mary, Princess of Scotland (b.1595)​

 

[kasumigenx]

From my timeline Disaster of Poitiers

Eleanor of Aquitaine b. 1122 d. 1153 m Louis VII of France(a) m. Henry II of England(b)

1a. Maria, Duchess of Aquitaine b. 1145 m. Simon I France

2a. Alice b. 1150 m. Alfonso VIII of Castile b. 1155

3b. Stillborn b. 1153

 

[RedKing]

A somewhat implausible, if not ASB idea inspired by @The Bashful Bookworm ’s ‘Princess over the Water’ timeline:

King Richard III of England (1452-1485) M. a) Lady Anne Neville (1455-1481), b) Infanta Joanna of Portugal (1452-1492) [1], had issue

1a). Edward of Middleham, Prince of Wales (1476-1483)
2b). Princess Mary of England (1486-1545) [2] M. King Arthur I of England (1486-1539) [3] , had issue

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1. King Henry VIII of England (1502-1557) M. Infanta Isabella of Castile (1501-1559) [4]​

2. Princess Mary of England (1505-1555) M. Holy Roman Emperor Charles V (1500-1558)​

3. Princess Elizabeth of England (1506-1559) M. King James V of Scotland (1507-1557) [5]​

4. Prince Edward, Duke of Somerset (1508-1558) M. Elizabeth Grey, Viscountess Lisle (1505-1556)​

5. Princess Joan of England (1510-1567) M. King Louis XIII of France (1512-1570) [6]​

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[1] Our POD, Anne Neville dies in 1481 and Richard remarries to Joanna of Portugal in 1482.
[2] Not sure how she’d be styled so I went for her title being Princess of England for simplicity’s sake.. She is named after the Virgin Mary.
[3] The Tudors still get the throne here, I am not sure if an alliance with Portugal would butterfly their rise here, but I guess that could be resolved by marrying Mary to Arthur. The marriage occurs since Mary has Lancastrian blood and the Riccardian claim making her good enough and strategic enough of a bride for Arthur.
[4] Alt daughter of Margaret of Austria and a surviving John, Prince of Asturias.
[5] An alt son of James IV and Margaret Tudor.
[6] Alt son of Louis XII and Anne of Brittany.

 

[Deleted member 147978]

A somewhat implausible, if not ASB idea inspired by @The Bashful Bookworm ’s ‘Princess over the Water’ timeline:

King Richard III of England (1452-1485) M. a) Lady Anne Neville (1455-1481), b) Infanta Joanna of Portugal (1452-1492) [1], had issue

1a). Edward of Middleham, Prince of Wales (1476-1483)
1b). Princess Mary of England (1486-1545) [2] M. King Arthur I of England (1486-1539) [3] , had issue

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1. King Henry VIII of England (1502-1557) M. Infanta Isabella of Castile (1501-1559) [4]​

2. Princess Mary of England (1505-1555) M. Holy Roman Emperor Charles V (1500-1558)​

3. Princess Elizabeth of England (1506-1559) M. King James V of Scotland (1507-1557) [5]​

4. Prince Edward, Duke of Somerset (1508-1558) M. Elizabeth Grey, Viscountess Lisle (1505-1556)​

5. Princess Joan of England (1510-1567) M. King Louis XIII of France (1512-1570) [6]​

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[1] Our POD, Anne Neville dies in 1481 and Richard remarries to Joanna of Portugal in 1482.
[2] Not sure how she’d be styled so I went for her title being Princess of England for simplicity’s sake.. She is named after the Virgin Mary.
[3] The Tudors still get the throne here, I am not sure if an alliance with Portugal would butterfly their rise here, but I guess that could be resolved by marrying Mary to Arthur. The marriage occurs since Mary has Lancastrian blood and the Riccardian claim making her good enough and strategic enough of a bride for Arthur.
[4] Alt daughter of Margaret of Austria and a surviving John, Prince of Asturias.
[5] An alt son of James IV and Margaret Tudor.
[6] Alt son of Louis XII and Anne of Brittany.

A much "more plausible" scenario would be Anne Neville giving a birth to a daughter (Anne or Mary, your choice) before Bosworth. :V

 

[RedKing]

A much "more plausible" scenario would be Anne Neville giving a birth to a daughter (Anne or Mary, your choice) before Bosworth. :V

I don't really think that's more plausible. Said daughter only has Yorkist blood + the Riccardian claim, meaning that Arthur marrying isn't as strategic, aside from the Neville lands (which isn't really needed since Henry VII can just confiscate any grants Richard III made), and so can just be ignored. Meanwhile Mary here as connections to Portugal and legitimate Lancastrian blood which means she makes more sense for Arthur IMO.

 

[Deleted member 147978]

I don't really think that's more plausible. Said daughter only has Yorkist blood + the Riccardian claim, meaning that Arthur marrying isn't as strategic, aside from the Neville lands (which isn't really needed since Henry VII can just confiscate any grants Richard III made), and so can just be ignored. Meanwhile Mary here as connections to Portugal and legitimate Lancastrian blood which means she makes more sense for Arthur IMO.

Fair enough. Although the scenario just feels "off" to me. I do not know what it is though.

 

[The_Most_Happy]

If Archduke Leopold Johann (1716), the only son of Charles VI and Elisabeth Christine of Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel, were to survive to adulthood, who might we see him marry? Also, who would we see his sisters Maria Theresia and Maria Anna marry?

 

[Icelord125]

If Archduke Leopold Johann (1716), the only son of Charles VI and Elisabeth Christine of Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel, were to survive to adulthood, who might we see him marry? Also, who would we see his sisters Maria Theresia and Maria Anna marry?

Given that Maria Anna was considered for Philip of Spain, Duke of Parma, to smooth over Austrian relations with Spain in OTL, perhaps Leopold Johann would marry Infanta Mariana Victoria (1718)?

 

[isabella]

If Archduke Leopold Johann (1716), the only son of Charles VI and Elisabeth Christine of Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel, were to survive to adulthood, who might we see him marry? Also, who would we see his sisters Maria Theresia and Maria Anna marry?

For Maria Anna I do not know, but I strongly suspect a double match with the Spanish Bourbons for both Leopold Johann and Maria Theresia