Lands of Red and Gold, Act II

Lands of Red and Gold #109: To The Equator And Beyond
Lands of Red and Gold #109: To The Equator And Beyond

“Death walks beside me, and behind me, and in time it will claim me, but never will I let fear of it control me.”
- Attributed to the Hunter

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9 November 1711
Mullumba [Petrie, QLD], Dominion of Harmony

Mathieu-François Clergeau, Councillor of the Orient, schooled his features to stillness. Opportunity beckoned here, but also great risk. If he succeeded, he would be the first official of the Compagnie to strike a truly profitable trade agreement on the mainland of the Third World.

Many times, the Compagnie had tried to gain trade access, at first by word, and then sometimes by the sword. All had failed. The avaricious Dutch and putrid English held the valuable portions of Aururia in their grasp: gold, kunduri, and most of the spices. The few portions of Aururia where the Compagnie had gained a foothold were exactly those which appealed least to the Dutch and English. On Aotearoa, they had found a wealth of gold for the claiming, but not here on the mainland.

A few opportunities remained. Some parts of the Spice Lands here were still ruled by the natives. Some of those sold some of their spices to the Compagnie, but only a small portion. Truly meaningful control of trade with the holdouts – the Patjimunra and the Kiyungu – had eluded the Compagnie’s grasp. Small consolation that it had eluded the Dutch and English, too.

Now, though, Clergeau had his opportunity. The Kiyungu had fought off the Compagnie’s expensive gamble to conquer them. No-one had been willing to waste blood and treasure on a second attempt.

No-one Christian, that is.

Some savage warlord – whom even these heathens considered a savage, that is – had emerged from the vast undiscovered country of the interior. Truly, so little was known of the heart of this land. The wealth had been on the coast, either found there or brought there by the natives for trading. Few Christians had ventured further in, save some to the Five Rivers, and even that was only a small part of Aururia. Much of that heart was desert – the dead heart, he had heard the natives call it – but evidently not all of it was so.

The Kiyungu had been conquered in a lightning crusade. This warlord proclaimed some distinction in faith, though from what Clergeau had been able to fathom, there was no meaningful difference between his sect and the heathen Plirite faith which the Kiyungu followed. Whether the differences were real mattered little, though. What mattered was the change in government. This warlord might be more amenable to trade with the Compagnie.

The men who escorted him were Kiyungu, from what Clergau could judge of their speech. Spear and shield-carrying soldiers, of no particular note. When he reached the great doors to the royal palace of Mullumba, he found someone of far greater import.

This man dressed nothing like a Kiyungu. He stood tall, with a strange two-part hat of wood above and woven fibre below. His hair was long, bound into a bag behind his neck, with feathers sticking from it. He wore a cloak around his shoulders, with a smaller piece of fabric semi-detached as it hung down his chest, not quite concealing the two pistols strapped there. He wore a short tunic that left half of his legs uncovered, and comfortable-looking fur boots. Most importantly, he had the bearing of a man of aristocratic blood.

“I am Kyulibah,” the aristocrat said, in passable Nuttana, the common language of traders in the Third World. “Warego [hero] and servant of the Hunter. You are the emissary of the Drendj association?”

“I am Mathieu-François Clergeau, Councillor of the Orient, on behalf of the Compagnie d’Orient, here to speak to Tjuwagga.”

Kyulibah gestured to the pistol and knife at Clergeau’s waist. “No man steps armed into the Hunter’s presence, save with his explicit blessing.”

“And my safety?” Clergeau said. He had expected this, but wanted to judge how wary these heathen Yalatji were.

“You guarantee your safety with your own honour,” the aristocrat said, then nodded when Clergeau handed the weapons to one of the accompanying Kiyungu.

Kyulibah turned, opened the doors, and walked in. Clergeau followed; the soldiers did not.

Inside, two more guards waited, dressed in similar style to the aristocrat, though less elaborately. Clergeau gave them little heed. His gaze focused on the fifth man, the one seated, the one who wore a simple tunic and cloak with no ornamentation, and whose hair hung loose rather than bagged.

Without being prompted, Clergeau went down and one knee and bowed his head. He had found that a useful generic gesture of respect, both here and in Aotearoa, and it saved learning the myriad customs of acknowledgement in the Third World.

Kyulibah announced Clergeau, making a decent attempt to pronounce his name and title, and then stepped to one side.

The seated man said, “Councillor of the Orient? What rank does that signify amongst your people?”

“Six men who oversee all French trade with the countries of the east. I am the most senior of the six.”

The man grinned. “One who has authority to bargain, then.”

“Indeed. Any agreements I make, the Compagnie d’Orient will honour.”

“Then you may speak with me. I am Tjuwagga – or Hunter, in the traders’ tongue. I have brought these lands of the League into my dominions, into harmony. What business do you wish to conduct with my lands?”

“Many things, in time, but foremost the spices found in these lands.”

“In exchange for weapons and armour, no doubt,” the Hunter said.

“You want to sell, we want to buy,” Clergeau ventured, with a smile on his face.

You need to buy; I want to sell,” the Hunter said calmly. “Your association needs to buy these spices more than I need to sell them. There are other buyers, and we already have those who can sell us arms.” He gestured to the two pistols on Kyulibah’s chest.

He continued, “I have heard what happened when you tried to secure deals from the spice lands. Naught worth mentioning, save for those spices so common – peppers – that anyone could buy them. That is why your friends sought to conquer the Kiyungu, twenty years gone. Because you could not obtain spices by bargain, you sought to obtain them by force.”

The Hunter’s grin returned. “Your force failed. Mine succeeded. Now you have only bargain, not force.”

“What terms do you wish for spices, then?”

“Good terms, of course,” the Hunter said, still grinning.

Clergeau laughed; he could not help himself.

The Hunter said, “I want more weapons and powder, this is true. And more good armour. But I do not need them badly. My prowess has already conquered the League, and I have a sufficiency of arms for more campaigns yet. More, the Nedlandj or the Inglidj would dearly love to sell me weapons for spices. If only to keep out the other, and you Drendj.”

“Neither of those is to be trusted,” Clergeau said.

“And you are?”

“The Nedlandj, for instance, sacked the White City when the Emperor under their protection dared to disagree with them.”

“So I have heard,” the Hunter said. “A tale which grows worse with each retelling, no doubt. I do not fear the Nedlandj and their weapons. They are limited to what they can bring by ship. A fact your Māori allies learned when they tried to conquer these Kiyungu. Whereas I can move whole nations by horse.”

“So what else do you wish then, besides good terms in trade?”

“A good question.” The Hunter’s ever-infectious grin returned. “I want more than a trade agreement. I want recognition. What is the Nuttana phrase? Ah, yes. Sphere of influence. The Nuttana have claimed the League, the northern Kiyungu, and a few other lands like Ngutti [Yamba] as their sphere of influence.”

“The Nuttana can claim what they wish. It does not make it so.”

“Your association recognises those claims, in fact if not in name. What I wish is stronger. Your association must publicly, formally recognise all of these Nuttana lands – and the Nuttana themselves – as my sphere of influence. Whether I have conquered them directly, whether they have paid tribute, or whether they still await my rule, they are my sphere of influence. You will not interfere. You will buy nothing from them, sell nothing to them, except with my permission, and on terms we agree between us, now or later.”

“And the other Christian – Raw Men, you would say – trading associations? What of them?”

“How I deal with them is my concern,” the Hunter said. “So long as you recognise my rule, and do not make any common cause with them against me, then we can trade, for both our gain.”

“Then let us negotiate the trade terms,” Clergeau said, and this time he allowed himself to grin back.

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From Bareena Uranj, a Tjarrling religious text which is typically though inaccurately rendered into English as the Orange Bible:

Chapter 18:

1. And so it happened that all the lands of the League submitted to the true path, save for besieged Kabigara [Noosa Heads] in the north.

2. Tjuwagga gathered his Warego [heroes/visionaries] and Wirrulee [priests/warriors] together at Cankoona [Toowoomba], and declared that the first time of Yaluma [struggle/crusade] had been fulfilled.

3. The Warego and Wirrulee held council together about where next to send the Men of the North [Yalatji], Men of the South [Butjupa] and their new-found comrades in truth [1].

4. Jowarra said, “North we can go, to the League’s northern allies, or south along the mountains or along the coast, to peoples who know not the Seven-fold Path.”

5. The Warego and Wirrulee argued, and the whole of the council was divided into three parts.

6. Tjuwagga said, “High lands we know, and gems we know. These high lands to the south are of fine pasture, if not the great bounty of the Neeburra [2]. They are fit to be ridden by the finest of men. It is right that they be the next brought to the true path.”

7. Jowarra said, “What of Kabigara and their kin?”

8. Tjuwagga said, “They will come to my rule, in time. Jowarra, I leave their conquest to you, and to Minjaree, who is already there.”

9. Tjuwagga said, “Bring Kabigara to submission, and from there proceed north in conquest as seems best to you.”

10. Tjuwagga said, “But for me and my other Warego, we will ride into the highlands.”

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From: The Chronicle of Tjuwagga the Unbeliever (Merringford translation).

With the capitulation of Woginee [Tweed Heads], the League was no more, we knew. Kabigara stood alone, but it could not be called part of any League.

Tjuwagga summoned all of his senior commanders to Cankoona, save Minjaree who was still seeking to break into Kabigara, to discuss where to conquer next. Everyone knew that Tjuwagga wanted to conquer, above all else. For all of his talk of bringing harmony through ruling over unbelievers, it was in battle that he thrived, in battle without which he could never enjoy life.

Tjuwagga asked his commanders for their views on where he should conquer next. He let us hostages watch; he never seemed to care what we heard, only what we did.

Jowarra opened the discussion, as he usually did. He named the obvious options: the northern brethren of the League, south along the ocean’s shore, or into the Tin Lands of the mountains. His commanders argued interminably about the best choice, and as was his wont, Tjuwagga let them debate without contradiction from him. Only once they appeared to have chosen a course – the firmest voices favoured Jowarra’s demand for a northern push – did Tjuwagga speak.

Tjuwagga said, “The remaining Kiyungu are misguided, and defiant, but will be brought to the proper path in due course. No urgency in that task. Other foes remain to the south. They will have been warned by our success over the League. They can never defeat us, this is so, but if we give them more time to prepare, they can cost us more in blood and horse to defeat them.”

Jowarra said, “Shall the northerners be left free to cause trouble?”

“No. Take your warband and join the siege of Kabigara. Once it is fallen and secure, you can push to the north as you deem achievable.” The Hunter gave his familiar grin, the one all men who knew him would remember to the end of their days. “For the other warbands and I, we will ride south, to conquer the Tin Lands, as one step along the path to the greater endeavour, the defeat of the lords foul who rule the Five Rivers.”

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Taken from: The True History of the Yalatji: Translation and Commentary, Heron Publishing, 2nd edition.
English translation by IM Donne.

(From Book 5)

The declaration of Yaluma had been ended, for the current time, and the Hunter dwelt in Mullumba for the moment as he brought order to the lands of the former League. While he resided there, three of his greatest Warego – Yongalla, Minjaree, and Kyulibah – came to take counsel with him over where next to send the might of the Yalatji.

Minjaree declared that the Warego should ride north, to join Jowarra who was then besieging Kabigara, to end the last holdout of the League. From there, he said, they could ride into city after city, until all of the Kiyungu who had defied the Yaluma had been conquered, and after that, then the lands of the Six Lords [Nuttana] could be subdued.

Yongalla counselled that the Riders should be sent south, on the sunrise side of the mountains, and defeat the petty kings and city-states of the Spice Coast. This way, he said, there would be many small enemies who could be defeated one by one, and brought to the true path. If the Riders pressed far enough, he advised, the divided remnants of once-mighty Daluming [Coffs Harbour and environs] could be conquered.

Kyulibah stated that the best course was to send the Riders back across the mountains, then south, to the Southern Gemlands [New England tablelands]. With that, he stated, the Riders knowledge of hill fighting could be put to best use in a land that would offer more wealth than the scattered peoples of the Spice Coast.

The Hunter said, “In my new Dominion, I have brought many converts to the true path and to join our armies. I must trust them to fight for me, but not trust too far, yet. Many of the Kiyungu have friends and kin who have migrated north, and they may have considered such a migration themselves. Let them have more time to learn to follow a true Warego and grow in faith before they are sent to fight their brothers in speech.

“Minjaree, you will ride north with your warband and the two Goanna battalions. (Commentator’s note: The Goanna battalions were composite units of infantry put together from those non-Yalatji and non-Butjupa peoples who had already been recruited to the Hunter’s cause. They did not, at this time, include Kiyungu.) You can aid Jowarra and conquer Kabigara, then keep conquering north. For the rest, we will ride to the south, to bring the high lands into harmony.”

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Ashkettle says, “With the League fallen, why did the Hunter turn south? Why did he not press north against the Kiyungu immediately, with all of his strength? That seems to be something that no historians could agree on.”

Clements laughs. “How can they, when three great books contradict each other on almost every point, and the fourth gives no reason at all?”

“Do you remember the reason?”

“But of course. I was at Cankoona when the council met. So many reasons, the histories offer, and all wrong. The truth was much simpler. Several recruits had come from the highlands lately – following in the path I set, a couple of years before, when I moved from the highlands to the Neeburra – and they carried word that a fresh war had broken out amongst the highland confederations. So the Hunter decided to attack immediately, to take proper advantage of the opportunities offered by divided foes.”

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10 November 1711
Tukka Nyukka [Maryborough] (independent Kiyungu city-state)

A spring day in Kogung’s hosting-house [inn/pub]; decently warm, blessedly free from rain. A pleasant day, yet an unpleasant time.

Mulganba, trading-captain of the Mudontji bloodline, had found little to profit him in his voyage south to Tukka Nyukka. The locals were too busy panicking over the possibility of an attack by this warlord Seeker or Hunter or whatever he called himself. So they hoarded their wealth rather than trading freely. If he was unable to find anything of value soon, he might have to end up trading sugar for dried fish.

His hopes revived when he overheard a conversation between several wealthy locals – exactly the kind of men whom he was trying to trade with – bemoaning the threat of the Seeker. Conversations about the Seeker were everywhere in this town, but his interest grew when he heard them start to discuss fleeing.

Without waiting to be invited, he sat down at their table and said, “So determined to leave your home city?”

Lumbarra, a warehouse owner whom Mulganba had traded with before, gave him an unfriendly stare. He had expected nothing less for the intrusion, but they could not ignore his words. Eventually Lumbarra said, “Your forefathers did the same, and witness the fortune it brought you.”

Mulganba did not reply immediately; Lumbarra’s response had been exactly what he wanted, and best to let the other men think about it for a moment longer.

Nhumee Djara, a prominent scribe who had documented several of Mulganba’s trade agreements, said, “But where could we flee? Even the Nuttana are not far enough away; I fear that they will march up the coast taking city after city.”

“You give these Horse-Men too much credit,” said Mulganba. Breaking the League had been easy because they had not known how to fight Horse-Men. The first battle had been the decisive one, but the struggle put up since showed that their cavalry could be challenged by men who knew what they were doing. “They will not find it so easy to march north.”

Lumbarra said, “What is to stop them? Oh, they will not be at the gates of Wujal next year. But no-one dares face them in battle, and they will not cease conquering until they are firmly defeated.”

Gumboo, one of the most useful spice brokers to deal with, said, “If we must flee, it should be somewhere that their horses cannot ride after us.”

Mulganba raised an eyebrow. This conversation was leading exactly where he had hoped. “Somewhere across the waves, perhaps?”

Lumbarra laughed, with a hint of desperation behind it. “What island is there worth having? If it is already full of men, then we would need to fight them; battle here would be preferable to battle far away. And no island would be safe from bloodthirsty Māori coming raiding.”

“Unless it is full of malaria, where even the Māori dare not tread,” Gumboo said.

“Where does that leave?” Lumbarra asked, resignation in his tone.

“Nowhere,” Nhumee declared.

Mulganba offered silent thanks to the Green Lady. Never mind selling sugar; he could extract much more wealth from these desperate Kiyungu by negotiating a deal to take them to a place of security. He said, “If you are determined to flee, I know a place.”

Sure enough, he had their interest; their keen looks demonstrated that. “Sail as far as the Nuttana have, and you learn about many lands. This world is a far larger place than you might know.”

“I know the size of the globe. I have seen world maps,” Nhumee said.

“Raw Men maps,” Mulganba said. “With their poor, heavy ships where they can claim to chart a coastline and miss all of the good harbours. The Raw Men are cunning artificers in so many ways, but their mapmaking and shipbuilding leaves much to be desired.”

“You mean you know a land which the Raw Men do not?” Lumbarra asked.

“A land which to the Raw Men is naught but a name and a squiggle on a map. The Pannidj [Spanish] claim it, but their pitiful charts do not even show its greatest harbour, one of the most superb anchorages in the world.” Mulganba wondered sometimes why the Pannidj even bothered to explore at all, since they missed so much of the coast.

“What is this land called?” Gumboo said.

Mulganba knew better than to answer that question directly yet. Interest must be built first. “It is a land where the Māori could never reach, so far across the globe. It has a few natives there, but they are like the wild men [hunter-gatherers] which your forefathers displaced when they moved north from the Coral Coast; few, rudely-armed, divided, and easily bargained with or pushed aside if needed. It is a land well-suited to decent crops – red yams and wealth-trees [wattles] would grow in abundance, although you would need irrigation for sweet potato. A land with fine lumber, game and fish to hunt until the crops can be established.”

“What is this land?” Lumbarra said.

“California, the Pannidj call it.”

“California!” Nhumee half-snorted the name. “You could not have named a more remote place.”

“I know of some further,” Mulganba said evenly. “But its distance is what makes it ideal. A fine, secluded harbour, fertile land, but with deserts which have stopped the Pannidj coming anywhere near the land. And far it may be, but it is easy to sail. Nuttana ships have explored the land; my uncle was among them. Reaching California is a long voyage, but not a dangerous one. We can sail north to Okinawa, then sail east with winds and currents behind us. It is easily done; it has been easily done. And at the other end, safety from the Seeker, for all time.”

Not to mention great wealth for the captains who accepted payment for the voyage, of course. California was decent land, from all Mulganba had heard, but its greatest attraction was that its remoteness would let he and his kin charge great fees for the voyage. With wealthy Kiyungu desperate to flee, what could be better?

“Safety from the Seeker may come at the price of danger from the Pannidj,” Lumbarra said.

“At a place in which they do not even know exists, even if they claim it?” Mulganba raised an eyebrow. “If permission is needed from the Pannidj, tell them we seek simply to set up a victualling station. They do not need to know how many people are there.” Wrangling permission from the Spanish could, in fact, take some negotiation, but Mulganba did not expect it to be a problem. The wealth being extracted from the Kiyungu for such an exodus would pay for any number of bribes to key Pannidj officials.

“This is not something which could be done overnight,” Nhumee said. “Many ships, many men, many months. Would we have enough time?”

“The Seeker is still to the south, and Kabigara still stands,” Mulganba said. “Dallying should not be encouraged, but time there is.” Those cities to the south held promise, too. The Seeker ruled the League, but perhaps men there would be dissatisfied with his rule. No change of ruler could stop traders coming back and forth, and where goods moved, so could men. Perhaps some of the conquered League-men would want to join this exodus. For the right price.

More, who could say what other resources this land called California held, once explored properly? Perhaps it would grow to be a useful trading place in its own right, just not a way to take the wealth of those desperate enough to be shipped there.

Gumboo said, “To California, then.” He raised his mug.

Lumbarra said, “No, to Kogung’s hosting-house, which brought us together, and whose children in spirit we will be, if we undertake this journey.”

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From: “The World Historical Dictionary”

California Exodus

Also called California Migration or Wyrallah. The migration of Kiyungu and Nuttana from north-eastern Aururia to California, principally between 1712-1718. Their descendants form the Kogung (q.v.) of modern California. Sometimes considered part of the Nangu Diaspora (q.v.).

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4 February 1733
Unknown California

“Come and see!” the scout announced.

Vicente Rodriguez Fidalgo, commander of His Catholic Majesty Carlos III’s first proper exploration to Upper California, did not hurry. Partly that was out of a sense of dignity; a commander maintained his authority in the field by being seen as composed and self-assured, not running around wildly. Mostly, though, it was from a sense of frustration.

Rumours of what could be found in Upper California had percolated through New Spain for several years. Many years before, the pagan Nuttana had won permission to set up a victualling station in California. He had never heard the official reason, but suspected that a certain favour in manner of Third World spices and jeeree had ensured that permission; after all, such goods were valuable in both the Orient and Europe.

Rumours, though, said that the Nuttana outpost had gone far beyond that of a mere victualling station. No Spanish ship had ever found exactly which harbour the Nuttana used, but then, that was understandable. The winds and currents off California pushed near-continuously to the south; sailing north to explore, or even chart the coast, was damned near impossible. A lesson which he had been reminded of in his own expedition here; it had been meant to be a joint search by land and sea, but the ships had been forced to turn back at Monterey after endlessly contrary winds.

Or maybe some ships did discover their base, but were bribed into silence. The thought had crossed his mind, amidst the many other frustrations of the exploration north. Ships had been trapped or failed to arrive in the first place, illness and scurvy plagued the expedition, as did travel across deserts which lacked water or decent food, and endless grumblings amongst the men. Nowadays, even minor matters seemed frustrating; their passage north had been blocked by the first glimpses of the arm of some bay which might – or might not – have been Port San Francisco which other Spaniards had reported [3] decades earlier. Then hills had stopped them from getting a proper sight of the bay.

Now, his scouts had returned from the ridge, and from the sounds of it, what they had discovered was something special. Or fearsome, perhaps.

In his own calculated time, Fidalgo made his way to the top of the ridge. There, he had to stop himself gasping. Composure, he reminded himself. A commander needs composure.

A great bay opened before them, sweeping wide to south and east and north. The far shore was visible, but the bay was clearly several miles wide. Its outlet must lie beyond further hills to the north [4]. But it was the lowlands which drew his attention. Here and on the far side of the bay, trees had been planted in endless neat rows. Trees which presented contrasting colours of bright golden flowers and dark green leaves. Much of the near shore, and parts of the far shore, were swathed in the golden hues.

When he inspected more closely, Fidalgo saw a decent-sized town on the near shore, and what looked like other towns on the farther shore, though those were smaller. Whoever lived here – presumably the Nuttana – had grown well-established.

“Those are cornnarts [wattles], aren’t they?” Fidalgo asked. He knew of no other cultivated trees which produced such colours.

The scout nodded.

So, this was the Nuttana colony, then. None of the natives here grew cornnarts. A large, well-settled colony indeed. What would the Governor of New Spain say when he heard of this outpost? Would he want to have it conquered? Worse, given the troubles of bringing men by land or sea, could it be conquered?

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[1] i.e. those Kiyungu (and a few others) who have converted to Tjarrlinghi and now follow the Hunter’s cause.

[2] This refers to an area which the Aururians variously call the northern highlands or the southern gemlands, and which historically is called the New England tablelands. It is an area of highlands that has long been a source of tin, and anciently also of gold and gems, although most of the gold and gem mines have been exhausted. There is still some small-scale sapphire production.

[3] What the Spanish in this era thought of as San Francisco Bay was in fact the outer part of the bay (including historical Drake’s Bay), rather than the modern historical conception of San Francisco Bay as the harbour inside the Golden Gate. Historically, no Europeans discovered [5] San Francisco Bay until Gaspar de Portolá’s expedition reached it by land in 1769.

[4] Fidalgo’s expedition has followed a generally similar path to that which historically followed by Portolá’s expedition in 1769. They were both marching roughly along the coast, and were turned west by the first glimpse of San Francisco Bay. They have climbed the same ridge (historically called Sweeney Ridge), though in different locations, and gained the first full sight of San Francisco Bay.

[5] Obviously, San Francisco Bay had been discovered on more or less a daily basis for over ten thousand years by the people who already lived there.

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Thoughts?

P.S. For those who are curious, this Kogung migration to California has been foreshadowed (in very general terms) in various special posts over the years. In the very first Christmas special (here), there was discussion of a “California Migration” which involved significant population movements, and an anatomically improbable suggestion involving a redwood which suggested that there were Plirites familiar with redwoods.

There were also various references to the Kogung. A later Christmas special named them as among Plirite groups which still celebrate Christmas as a secular holiday (here). In post #75, the Kogung were named amongst the groups who were sometimes (controversially) described as part of the Nangu Diaspora. One of the Halloween specials also featured a Kogung couple, in a place in which they can look west and see the sun setting over the Pacific, while also celebrating the Day of the Dead in a Spanish-influenced fashion (here). And in the recent post #107, Kogung's was named as the inn where the first people met when they decided to undertake a great migration.

P.P.S. As has been mentioned in the discussion posts, LoRaG is now going to slow down for a while as I work on some other projects, starting with the planned version of habitable Venus. I will post a link to that project (in the ASB forum) once it’s up and running.
 
Amazing update, Jared :D

I'm happy readers managed to guess the destination of the Kiyungu exodus.

I wonder, of the California natives who survived the brunt of epidemics and warfare, could some have taken up Nuttana animals or even crops to develop a rudimentary form of agriculture or pastoralism?
 
Always a happy night when I read a new LoRaG update.

The fact the Kogung are so well-established in California means that Spanish (or Mexican) control there in the long run is doomed. However, maybe the Kogung could help Spain out dealing with their Indian problems in the North of Mexico and help strengthen Spanish rule there, although who knows what the Kogung might want in return.

The bit about the Hunter demanding the French embargo the Nuttana doesn't bode well for them. I doubt he can physically conquer their strongholds, but economic strangulation is a possibility. And if the Nuttana stop being useful to European powers, they might be in some serious trouble.
 
Great update! How many Kogung are there in California by 1733? Enough that they theoretically will be able to establish themselves as a reasonably important country in centuries to come? Best of luck on your other works, will look forward to reading them.
 
Great update! How many Kogung are there in California by 1733? Enough that they theoretically will be able to establish themselves as a reasonably important country in centuries to come? Best of luck on your other works, will look forward to reading them.

Compared to many Spanish colonies of the time (which weren't already built upon huge population centres or were strategically important like Cuzco, Lima, or Mexico City) the Kogung settlement seems pretty damn large indeed. And I mean, the Nuttana built their settlement from scratch.
 
I'm happy readers managed to guess the destination of the Kiyungu exodus.

They did. Although what's always surprised me over the years is that when talking about the first Christmas special - which had the main foreshadowing - people have focused more on the redwood line, and not on the explicit discussion of a mass migration to California.

I wonder, of the California natives who survived the brunt of epidemics and warfare, could some have taken up Nuttana animals or even crops to develop a rudimentary form of agriculture or pastoralism?

The fate of California's indigenous population is going to be worse in the short run, but may be better in the long run. This is because they are going to suffer a huge wave of epidemics now. Because the Kogung have asymptomatic carriers of a range of diseases - mumps, Marnitja and tuberculosis, for starters - those ones are inevitably going to spread to the Californian peoples quickly. And that's even before asking what other epidemics will be brought in from time to time by outside contact.

However, earlier contact may also mean more recovery time from the epidemics before there's other large population movements into California. There's only a limited population of potential Kiyungu migrants, and once that pool is tapped out, it's not like there's going to be many European peoples coming visiting. So that may allow the indigenous population more time to re-establish themselves.

As to whether that leads to take-up of agriculture and-or pastoralism... maybe. There's a mixed history of what happens when hunter-gatherers come into contact with agricultural peoples. Sometimes they take up agriculture, but often they don't. The question will be whether the affected peoples choose to take up agriculture, or just move further away from the Kogung colonists into areas which have been depopulated by plagues.

The fact the Kogung are so well-established in California means that Spanish (or Mexican) control there in the long run is doomed.

It certainly makes things much more difficult for them. They find it hard to project power by land or sea from the settled parts of New Spain. If they were really, really determined they might have a chance, but it would be an expensive and risky undertaking to try to suppress by force.

However, maybe the Kogung could help Spain out dealing with their Indian problems in the North of Mexico and help strengthen Spanish rule there, although who knows what the Kogung might want in return.

There is quite a question of what the Kogung would get out of it. From their point of view, hostile (to Spain) indigenous peoples between them and the core of New Spain is a very good thing - it makes it harder to invade them. Perhaps the Kogung might have some use for Spanish goodwill, but gratitude has notoriously poor lasting qualities.

The bit about the Hunter demanding the French embargo the Nuttana doesn't bode well for them. I doubt he can physically conquer their strongholds, but economic strangulation is a possibility. And if the Nuttana stop being useful to European powers, they might be in some serious trouble.

The Hunter is certainly the Nuttana's greatest threat. French trade does not mean a great deal to the Nuttana in itself - their economic influence is much more with England and the Netherlands, and even Spain, more than France. But it is a bad precedent to set.

More, even if the Hunter does not reach the Nuttana strongholds - although it is one of his avowed ambitions - their key trade products which interest Europeans (spices, jeeree, kunduri) do come from locations which the Hunter can more readily reach. This does not bode well.

Great update! How many Kogung are there in California by 1733? Enough that they theoretically will be able to establish themselves as a reasonably important country in centuries to come?

Something like 15-20,000 survived the voyages there. (Good thing that the Nuttana have taken up ship's goats, but that's another story). Some of them also have intermarried with the indigenous population - mostly from various Ohlone groups, although there's also some from various Miwok and Patwin groups.

This is rather a large population movement for the era - one which paid the Nuttana well - but the population well of potential migrants is largely exhausted.

Such a population could grow considerably, given the era and location, but not indefinitely. Assuming for the sake of argument that the population pool was 20,000 (including intermarried indigenous peoples), and that the population doubled at a roughly fast average of 30 years down into the 1950s (i.e. the time of demographic transition), you'd be looking at something like 5 million Kogung by 1960. All sorts of events could slow that population growth, of course.

Best of luck on your other works, will look forward to reading them.

Thanks. I'll be starting on them soon. And LoRaG is not completely stalled, but updates will be completely slower from here on in.

Compared to many Spanish colonies of the time (which weren't already built upon huge population centres or were strategically important like Cuzco, Lima, or Mexico City) the Kogung settlement seems pretty damn large indeed. And I mean, the Nuttana built their settlement from scratch.

They did, though with several distinct advantages. One is that they were able to bring over a lot of ships which stayed there - paid for by Kiyungu, naturally - which let them take up fishing as a major food source from very early on, and keep it as such. Another is that their crops are really very well-suited to California's climate, even allowing for the long dry season. (They do irrigate more than most Aururian peoples; a legacy of learning to farm sweet potatoes). The third is that with Aururian crops, and fishing, you get a larger urban population relative to the overall population size - hence, a larger town.

Does this mean we can expect the Spanish Inquisition to be paying our Kiyungu friends a visit?

No-one ever expects the Spanish Inquisition...

(Okay, someone had to say it.)

Why do your works attract so many puns Jared...

A good pun is its own reword.

So they've been there for 20 years by the time the Spanish find them?

Before Spain officially finds them. A couple of Spanish ships have chanced upon them. One of those was bribed into silence, the other was mysteriously lost at sea.

That's going to be tricky for Spain to deal with.

Extremely tricky. Their first overland expedition lost something like three-quarters of its numbers in dead, sick or turned back. Their ships cannot reliably sail north along the Californian coast. That is not a formula for being able to easily conquer the Kogung. The Kogung have decent arms, and (largely thanks to intermarriage and guidance from indigenous peoples) know the land a lot better than the Spanish do. By the time technology progresses to the point where the Spanish could theoretically project power to California, there's going to be a lot more Kogung.
 
One thing that just occurred to me. I know the Nutanna have trading ships, and the Maori have raiders. But does anyone of the sea-going peoples of the Third World have warships yet? Proper ones that can fight battles at sea with ranged weapons.
 
They did. Although what's always surprised me over the years is that when talking about the first Christmas special - which had the main foreshadowing - people have focused more on the redwood line, and not on the explicit discussion of a mass migration to California.

I guess everyone just assumed that was a gold rush.
 
They did. Although what's always surprised me over the years is that when talking about the first Christmas special - which had the main foreshadowing - people have focused more on the redwood line, and not on the explicit discussion of a mass migration to California.

I suppose one never forgets a good arse fucking, even years down the road. :D

Seriously though, I knew you mentioned a mass migration into California, but your foreshadowing seemed to suggest a future which was rather more polyglot, at least to me.

I am right in supposing ITTL California's boundaries do not even approximately match those of OTL's? I have to think that Spain will settle San Diego roughly as it did IOTL. Due to the structure of the mountain ranges in Southern California, I expect Spanish control will range all the way to the Los Angeles area, but any city in this location will be limited in size, because the major watersheds which fed OTL's Los Angeles Aqueduct are likely going to be controlled by the Kogung.
 

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Excellent chapter but a few questions I want to ask

What has happened to the following countries or regions so far:

  1. Thailand
  2. Fiji
  3. Chile

Also another question I want to ask is how Islam is doing here so far. Has the Aururia prescence effected things quite drastically.

Another thing I want to know is the situation in cathay or China. Will it likely industrialize at an earlier date and/or will China become more fractured over the next fifty years.

Actually I have alto of questions I want to ask.

What's going on in Armenia?

Or Ethiopia. Is Christianity still dominant? Have either of those regions pushed back the Islamic conquests?

How's Taiwan doing anyways now?

Finally what's been happening to the tragic, and usually ignored, Arab Slave trade? :(:(
 
The fate of California's indigenous population is going to be worse in the short run, but may be better in the long run. This is because they are going to suffer a huge wave of epidemics now. Because the Kogung have asymptomatic carriers of a range of diseases - mumps, Marnitja and tuberculosis, for starters - those ones are inevitably going to spread to the Californian peoples quickly. And that's even before asking what other epidemics will be brought in from time to time by outside contact.

However, earlier contact may also mean more recovery time from the epidemics before there's other large population movements into California. There's only a limited population of potential Kiyungu migrants, and once that pool is tapped out, it's not like there's going to be many European peoples coming visiting. So that may allow the indigenous population more time to re-establish themselves.

As to whether that leads to take-up of agriculture and-or pastoralism... maybe. There's a mixed history of what happens when hunter-gatherers come into contact with agricultural peoples. Sometimes they take up agriculture, but often they don't. The question will be whether the affected peoples choose to take up agriculture, or just move further away from the Kogung colonists into areas which have been depopulated by plagues.

I'd say that generally speaking it's easier for a hunter-gatherer society to make a move towards pastoralism before a move towards agrarianism. I don't of all the incentives or prerequisite factors for a move towards agriculture, though.

But considering that the Californian natives, or what remains of them after the preliminary waves of epidemics and some integrating into Kogung society, could plausibly take up at least pastoralism, what could that look like?

Are emus good candidates for a pastoral culture to be built around? The Kogung do have goats, what about cattle? Horses?

Are there any species in California which can be donesticated, given time?

Also, could some of the natives be converted to Pliirism by the Kogung?

Edit: now that a California settlement is confirmed, could there be an exchange in fauna and flora between Aururia and California, and even the possible Patagonia trade and victualling stations?

California oaks are good woods for shipbuilding, and can be planted in Patagonia. Many fur species from California could also be potentially brought back to Aururia and Patagonia for fur-hunting.

I'm thinking that the Nuttana have more room for experimenting with this sort of thing in the Americas rather than in Aururia, at least for the moment.

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Also, what does the Kogung colony work like, governmentally? Do they have a king like the Kiyungu did?
 
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One thing that just occurred to me. I know the Nutanna have trading ships, and the Maori have raiders. But does anyone of the sea-going peoples of the Third World have warships yet? Proper ones that can fight battles at sea with ranged weapons.

The Nuttana carry cannon on some of their ships. How good they are at sea warfare I haven't quite figured out, simply because what they have is just such a different design to any warships we have, so I don't know how exactly they'd mount the cannon and how effective such firepower would be.

I guess everyone just assumed that was a gold rush.

I guess, though I'd have expected that to be called a gold rush rather than simply a migration.

Seriously though, I knew you mentioned a mass migration into California, but your foreshadowing seemed to suggest a future which was rather more polyglot, at least to me.

The polyglot future was more to North America in general, with the idea of there being only two dominant languages as unthinkable. (As opposed to the 2.5 of OTL, depending on how you count French).

That said, who said that California doesn't end up polyglot? The key point is that I've indicated that it will be very hard to kick the Kogung out entirely. That doesn't mean that there can't eventually be a whole bunch of other migrants as well as them. Especially if something else (a gold rush being the obvious one) triggers a great rush of migrants.

In one of the previous mentions of the Kogung (here), they were given as an example of a Plirite minority in a majority-Christian country which still celebrated Christmas as a secular holiday (unlike, say, the Congxie). However, in that context, that was unclear whether that referred to all Kogung, or simply those who have migrated into majority-Christian countries.

I am right in supposing ITTL California's boundaries do not even approximately match those of OTL's? I have to think that Spain will settle San Diego roughly as it did IOTL. Due to the structure of the mountain ranges in Southern California, I expect Spanish control will range all the way to the Los Angeles area, but any city in this location will be limited in size, because the major watersheds which fed OTL's Los Angeles Aqueduct are likely going to be controlled by the Kogung.

*California's borders don't approximately match those of California, but on the whole I would expect *California to be larger. Much depends where the border is with the "worthless desert" to the east.

The San Diego area, in OTL, was not settled until 1769. Will the Spanish seek to establish a presence sooner? Perhaps, but there's a lot of variables there. On the one hand, they will want some sort of staging post near the Kogung, to keep an eye on them if nothing else. On the other hand, they have a lower population than OTL (Aururian crops have not yet made up for Aururian plagues), and other priorities. There's also the question of their existing relationship with the Kogung, and if the Kogung are still notionally independent, whether they are minded to interfere with any Spanish missions.

How will the Spaniards deal with the Kogung, a protectorate or conquest?

'Tis a very good question. They certainly will not want to yield any formal claim to California, but in the short run there's nothing much they can do. Attempting conquest would be almost certainly doomed to fail, and would provoke the Kogung to declare formal independence.

Perhaps they will end up with a variant of the Sir Pterry form of government over troublesome but powerful groups: the Kogung promise to do whatever the Spanish ask, provided that the Spanish promise never to ask them to do anything.

What has happened to the following countries or regions so far:

  1. Thailand
  2. Fiji
  3. Chile

Thailand: Declining due to infighting and civil wars, but still ruled by the Ayutthaya.

Fiji: Conquered by the Pakanga, and still ruled by them.

Chile: The Captaincy General is still largely confined to north of the Biobio River, due to plagues compounding their existing problems in pushing futher south.

Also another question I want to ask is how Islam is doing here so far. Has the Aururia prescence effected things quite drastically.

Depends very much which region you're talking about; the Dar as-Salam covers too many different countries and situations to give a single clear answer.

Another thing I want to know is the situation in cathay or China. Will it likely industrialize at an earlier date and/or will China become more fractured over the next fifty years.

I expect China will re-unite eventually; history suggests that. There's too many other factors involved to guess whether it industrialises earlier, later or similar to OTL. Not least of which is where and when the Industrial Revolution(s) happen in the first place. (Small spoiler: when ATL people speak of the Three Industrial Revolutions, that has quite a different meaning to what it has in OTL.)

What's going on in Armenia?

Or Ethiopia. Is Christianity still dominant? Have either of those regions pushed back the Islamic conquests?

Ethiopia has a broadly similar territory to what it had at this point in OTL. The effects of the plagues hit it and its neighbours about equally, and some of the other effects of Aururian contact (livestock, crops) have not spread to its and its neighbours yet either. Though noroons/emus are spreading north through Africa at the moment.

For Armenia, I'm unfortunately not familiar enough with what it was like at this point in OTL to work out how things have changed ITTL.

How's Taiwan doing anyways now?

Still with Dutch outposts, though not completely under Dutch rule. There's been no Koxinga to feel the need to kick the Dutch out so that it can be used as a base for Ming loyalists against the Qing.

Finally what's been happening to the tragic, and usually ignored, Arab Slave trade? :(:(

Smewhat reduced due to lower population at both target and destination, but unfortunately still present. There's not been anyone with both the will and power to suppress it.
 
I'd say that generally speaking it's easier for a hunter-gatherer society to make a move towards pastoralism before a move towards agrarianism. I don't of all the incentives or prerequisite factors for a move towards agriculture, though.

It's a murky question what circumstances will lead to pastoralism, which will lead to agriculture, and which will lead to both or neither. I could see lots of possible scenarios, so in the end I just may pick which one sounds the most interesting. Although I'm not sure how much California's long dry season and short wet season will play into calculations about possible pastoralism, and more specifically water sources and where it's available.

But considering that the Californian natives, or what remains of them after the preliminary waves of epidemics and some integrating into Kogung society, could plausibly take up at least pastoralism, what could that look like?

Are emus good candidates for a pastoral culture to be built around? The Kogung do have goats, what about cattle? Horses?

If it happens, cattle and horses are the most likely, perhaps with goats as a sideline. (Bad for desertification, if the latter).

Emus are fiddlier for pastoralists because they don't herd as well. Aururians usually keep them contained. It's *hard* to run down an emu without a horse, and even harder to run down a group of emus which tend to scatter. (The reason that the emus won the Emu War was because their leadership ordered the troops to disperse into roving columns (for obvious reasons, they couldn't form flying columns) rather than concentrate against superior firepower.)

Are there any species in California which can be donesticated, given time?

Quite possibly, though I'd have to do more research about potential domesticates - and, crucially, timeframe to domestication.

Regardless, the presence of a Californian outpost will mean more exchange of both New World and Old World domesticates to California, and then perhaps via trade and inspiration to Aururia.

Also, could some of the natives be converted to Pliirism by the Kogung?

It's certainly possible, depending on their religious views. The Kogung will certainly send missionaries amongst the various Californian peoples. How well those missionaries will be received, I'm not sure.

Edit: now that a California settlement is confirmed, could there be an exchange in fauna and flora between Aururia and California, and even the possible Patagonia trade and victualling stations?

I imagine that importation of Aururian trees will happen in California even earlier than in OTL. Welcome to California wildfires, alas. For other things, well, domesticated flora and fauna will certainly spread. Wild ones, not so much.

Patagonia is still up in the air - I need to consider that in more detail.

California oaks are good woods for shipbuilding, and can be planted in Patagonia. Many fur species from California could also be potentially brought back to Aururia and Patagonia for fur-hunting.

The main early species being hunted for fur is sea otter, and sadly I expect that will result in the near-extinction of the species rather than them being transported to Aururia or Patagonia. I'm not sure what the other main California fur species would be.

Also, what does the Kogung colony work like, governmentally? Do they have a king like the Kiyungu did?

Governmentally, the Kogung are run by a council of oligarchs - essentially, the richest of the men who funded the expedition. They don't have a king yet, kings being somewhat discredited due to the failures against the Hunter, and with the Nuttana playing the roles of mediators in the event of serious disputes between parties.

The council-republic model works in the short term because the Kogung settlements are compact enough that they can be ruled effectively by the Council. I imagine that a monarchy will emerge in time, though, as they spread out.
 
Quite possibly, though I'd have to do more research about potential domesticates - and, crucially, timeframe to domestication.

Rabbits might make for a smaller domesticate alongside ducks and their like. They can in time be bred for traits like size (for better meat) and such.

Regardless, the presence of a Californian outpost will mean more exchange of both New World and Old World domesticates to California, and then perhaps via trade and inspiration to Aururia.

If the Patagonia Mapuche trade station comes into being, whatever you decide with that, how do you think the Mapuche crops would do in California?

In particular, maize, quinoa, and potatoes might seem an interesting addition to the Aururian crop package. It seems ideal to add as much to the basic crop package to evolve as a culture, or at least advance their agriculture. The Aururians probably understand this better than the Spanish did, who at first cared only about growing wheat.

It's certainly possible, depending on their religious views. The Kogung will certainly send missionaries amongst the various Californian peoples. How well those missionaries will be received, I'm not sure.

What if the Nuttana make a push for spreading literacy, even if just to chiefs / traditional leadership so that Pliirism is better spread and understood? This would, of course, serve a dual purpose. Tribes led by Pliirite chiefs educated in the Nuttana tongue would, on paper, be more amiable towards the settlers. How exactly the Nuttana can take advantage of this... well, I guess it depends on the situation.

I also wonder if the Nuttana would promote multiracial chiefs in neighboring tribes, or perhaps the tribes themselves would. I've read before, don't remember where, that many Native American tribes chose to elect multiracial chiefs for purely diplomatic reasons with the Europeans, but the Europeans were often too racist for that tactic to be any use.

The main early species being hunted for fur is sea otter, and sadly I expect that will result in the near-extinction of the species rather than them being transported to Aururia or Patagonia. I'm not sure what the other main California fur species would be.

Patagonia has its own river otters inland, so if the Nuttana do make a base there, they might think instead of importing mammals like the various rabbits and beavers and all those sorts of common furry mammals.

Maybe send these animals back to Aururia as well. I expect that if they do establish large populations of small mammals back in Aururia, the value of their pelts would fall and more rarer mammal pelts would become even more valuable. These rarer mammals, of course, are of many different sorts in both California and Patagonia, and can't really be tamed and haven't been moved around as far as I know.
 
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*California's borders don't approximately match those of California, but on the whole I would expect *California to be larger. Much depends where the border is with the "worthless desert" to the east.

Yes, I could see *California easily including a lot of the Great Basin area to the east. We know the Euro-settler nations will have lower population bases, leading to later settlement times. Several of them (New England certainly, probably Tigeria as well) will be blocked by other nations territory. So any polity on the West Coast should have some time to move eastward, even if it doesn't broach the Rocky Mountains.

The San Diego area, in OTL, was not settled until 1769. Will the Spanish seek to establish a presence sooner? Perhaps, but there's a lot of variables there. On the one hand, they will want some sort of staging post near the Kogung, to keep an eye on them if nothing else. On the other hand, they have a lower population than OTL (Aururian crops have not yet made up for Aururian plagues), and other priorities. There's also the question of their existing relationship with the Kogung, and if the Kogung are still notionally independent, whether they are minded to interfere with any Spanish missions.

I wasn't really thinking that San Diego would be settled any earlier than OTL. It might even be settled later. But it's a decent port, and was the location of the largest mission in Alta California IOTL. I simply don't see the Kogung getting to it before the Spanish, which is why I think it will ultimately be a Spanish city. The Kogung, I think, will be more likely to expand inward first, into the Central Valley.

Here is a large map of California, with the major geomorphic regions outlined. I expect Spain to ultimately hold the Colorado Desert and Peninsular Ranges areas.
 
Rabbits might make for a smaller domesticate alongside ducks and their like. They can in time be bred for traits like size (for better meat) and such.

They may have some potential, since their diet is somewhat more flexible. On the other hand, they don't produce any eggs, and they take up more food than, say, bearded dragons.

There's also the consideration that any timeline which might lead to earlier rabbits in Australia counts as an instant dystopia.

In particular, maize, quinoa, and potatoes might seem an interesting addition to the Aururian crop package. It seems ideal to add as much to the basic crop package to evolve as a culture, or at least advance their agriculture. The Aururians probably understand this better than the Spanish did, who at first cared only about growing wheat.

The Kogung, being descended from Kiyungu, are probably in a better position than most Aururians to consider the merits of potatoes. (They've learned about sweet potatoes.). Most Aururians respond to potatoes with either "these taste too bland" or "what do you mean, you have to plant new ones every year?"

Maize and quinoa both have some potential too, although they would require learning new agricultural techniques.

What if the Nuttana make a push for spreading literacy, even if just to chiefs / traditional leadership so that Pliirism is better spread and understood? This would, of course, serve a dual purpose. Tribes led by Pliirite chiefs educated in the Nuttana tongue would, on paper, be more amiable towards the settlers. How exactly the Nuttana can take advantage of this... well, I guess it depends on the situation.

The Kogung would be interested in spreading Plirism for its own sake. They believe that disharmony amongst their neighbours will also affect them. Spreading literacy would simply be a by-product of that.

I also wonder if the Nuttana would promote multiracial chiefs in neighboring tribes, or perhaps the tribes themselves would. I've read before, don't remember where, that many Native American tribes chose to elect multiracial chiefs for purely diplomatic reasons with the Europeans, but the Europeans were often too racist for that tactic to be any use.

The Nuttana, it has been said, care nothing for the colour of a man's skin, only the colour of his money.

Unfortunately, the Kogung are essentially transplanted Kiyungu. They have a history of looking down on hunter-gatherers. This will continue regardless of what skin colour or heritage those hunter-gatherers have. Being literate and being able to speak Kiyungu will help, but not enough to be seen as equals or near-equals.

Maybe send these animals back to Aururia as well. I expect that if they do establish large populations of small mammals back in Aururia, the value of their pelts would fall and more rarer mammal pelts would become even more valuable. These rarer mammals, of course, are of many different sorts in both California and Patagonia, and can't really be tamed and haven't been moved around as far as I know.

I wonder if beavers would be poisoned by some of the Aururian plants? Eucalypt leaves would be toxic too them; I'm not sure about the bark and wood. Otters would be an ecological disaster, not that this would necessarily worry whoever introduced them.

Yes, I could see *California easily including a lot of the Great Basin area to the east. We know the Euro-settler nations will have lower population bases, leading to later settlement times. Several of them (New England certainly, probably Tigeria as well) will be blocked by other nations territory. So any polity on the West Coast should have some time to move eastward, even if it doesn't broach the Rocky Mountains.

The Kogung in California certainly won't face as many eastern threats. Although as an aside, it's quite possible that the Great Plains may become a kind of no man's land for Europeans, since they all find it hard to project power there, and they may simply end up supporting various indigenous groups.

I wasn't really thinking that San Diego would be settled any earlier than OTL. It might even be settled later. But it's a decent port, and was the location of the largest mission in Alta California IOTL. I simply don't see the Kogung getting to it before the Spanish, which is why I think it will ultimately be a Spanish city. The Kogung, I think, will be more likely to expand inward first, into the Central Valley.

Kogung agriculture will probably end up mostly spreading through the Central Valley. But I'm not sure whether they will want to set up a port at San Diego. They do a lot of fishing too, not to mention hunting sea otters, and an additional port is handy as a refuge, repair and victualling station for vessels which can't return to *San Francisco. So they may end up beating the Spanish there.

Here is a large map of California, with the major geomorphic regions outlined. I expect Spain to ultimately hold the Colorado Desert and Peninsular Ranges areas.

If the Kogung make a definitive break from Spain, I expect that it would involve some version of a natural border as the separation line, but I still need to think through what the best location would be.
 
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