It would be a cruel twist of fate if because the earlier, successful use of such decoy operations allowed the Nazis to focus on the D-Day landings rather than assume they were a diversion. Unlikely I know, but action brings reaction.
It would be a cruel twist of fate if because the earlier, successful use of such decoy operations allowed the Nazis to focus on the D-Day landings rather than assume they were a diversion. Unlikely I know, but action brings reaction.I assume people are now weighing up benefits/risks of RAF fighter sweeps designed to draw the LW inland at appropriate times.
It would be a cruel twist of fate if because the earlier, successful use of such decoy operations allowed the Nazis to focus on the D-Day landings rather than assume they were a diversion. Unlikely I know, but action brings reaction.
No, that was Fortitude.Mincemeat didn't make them realize that the predicted Calais landing was fake, so...
No, that was Fortitude.
Mincemeat was the Sicily deception operation about the Allies apparently going to invade Sardinia and Greece, and Sicily being a feint. Fortitude was the faker where the Allies apparently was going to invade France via Calais and invade Norway via Narvik, when in reality they were going to invade France only via Normandy.
ASBAnd of course there will be a timeline where OTL events happen.
Terrible move then, terrible move now....
None of the Atlanta's will be ready in time for Bathhouse
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I like the way you think.If Bathhouse is a night time action like Taranto, the German daytime fighters like the 109 will be ineffective. In fact the British night fighters might be loitering around looking for business.
Are the US even trained to do a night strike or is it something like the Combined Bomber offensive in which the USN plus the RAF go in by day and then when the Germans think they're safe the FAA hits them at night.If Bathhouse is a night time action like Taranto, the German daytime fighters like the 109 will be ineffective. In fact the British night fighters might be loitering around looking for business.
Are the US even trained to do a night strike or is it something like the Combined Bomber offensive in which the USN plus the RAF go in by day and then when the Germans think they're safe the FAA hits them at night.
Still a Joint operation on this scale so early in the war makes me want to lean towards each nation's strength. That being the larger USN Airgroups vs the Night Strike trained FAA.Not as well trained as the British but they can be trained in time as they are not total neophytes. At Midway, Enterprise and Hornet recovered their air groups after dark after they unsuccessfully unloaded on the Japanese destroyer Tanikaze so the raw material is there.
I think if I was planning the raid, I'd position the fleet so that the aircraft could approach from the SW. A direction that would be unexpected. I'd then send the fleet to the NW with just fighters on board for defence. Once the attack was complete the aircraft could withdraw northwards to Cornwall which is only a 100 NM away.
Still a Joint operation on this scale so early in the war makes me want to lean towards each nation's strength. That being the larger USN Airgroups vs the Night Strike trained FAA.
A fair concernGood point but doing it that way leaves the carriers exposed for too long. Better to keep it at night but separate the strikes by a couple of hours with the RN going in first. That should work fine, especially if the attacking aircraft retire to Cornwall as suggested.