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Let's say the CSA won its independence in 1862 or whenever. What's the fate of Hawaii? Does it still get annexed to the USA, or does it go British or Confederate?
My guess would be USA or Britain, really depends on how well the North takes a loss in the Civil War.Let's say the CSA won its independence in 1862 or whenever. What's the fate of Hawaii? Does it still get annexed to the USA, or does it go British or Confederate?
It depends on how the CSA wins but I think that if the British were seen as belligerent against the US than it might actually accelerate an American takeover of Hawaii since they would probably want a base in the Pacific instead stopping on British held islands like in OTL.Let's say the CSA won its independence in 1862 or whenever. What's the fate of Hawaii? Does it still get annexed to the USA, or does it go British or Confederate?
This. Even if the Confederates, for some reason, decided they wanted Hawaii, which they won't since it doesn't offer anything; and they have the capacity to launch overseas expeditions, which...eh; they still don't have any Pacific ports to take it, and have no hope of getting any.My guess would be USA or Britain, really depends on how well the North takes a loss in the Civil War.
Confederates most likely wouldn't have any ports on the west coast to make it easy to get to Hawaii.
Let's say the CSA won its independence in 1862 or whenever. What's the fate of Hawaii? Does it still get annexed to the USA, or does it go British or Confederate?
Japan, then.What about Union too distracted to bother with the Kingdom. Britain too distracted and Hawaii being out of the way and convenient as a neutral that it remains independent.
All of those Pacific areas are parts of Empires. They can't form an alliance between themselves, the mother country won't allow it. "Indonesia" doesn't even exist. Its part of the Dutch Empire. California's population is barely 300,000 after the war. They can't declare independence, and have no reason to. The secession movement there was put down by a grand total of 300 cavalry.Hawaii was an independent republic in 1894. It would have more likely become an indpendent republic earlier. It forms its own navy and becomes independent joining with Samoa, Tuvalu, New Guinea, New Zealand, and Australia to form a Pacific Alliance against Japan and Indonesia. Shortly after the war, California secedes with the Washington State and Oregon who forming the Alliance of Northern States and aligns with the Pacific Alliance. Baja California splits off from Mexico and joins California.
Ends up as part of the British system of dependent states, is maybe annexed, maybe not.British
Too weak early. Too far away mid term. After 1940 or so Hawaii has either figured out how to be independent or has the US and the UK and Japan countering each other.Japan, then.
IIRC, the flag was designed to be like that just because Kamehameha was given a union jack as a gift and just liked how it lookedIt will end up part of the British Empire they probably thought they would be when they designed it's flag.