Glossary of Sealion Threads

Woops! sorry should have included that november sub. I'm assuming a September invasion but in most cases it makes no difference if it was in June (even though an invasion in June or July was impossible). The Germans used the Channel in the 1st World War and between the wars and had access to pre-war Admiralty charts - it seems likely they would have the necessary data. The Admiralty issued regular bulletins to neutral powers about navigational dangers and changes in the channel and the Germans were able to get hold of them. I'm not assuming there was a surprise, an invasion alert was issued September 7 and RN ships (including the subs I mentioned) were sent out as a result, I think it reasonable to say that the response to an invasion alert September 7 is what would happen if there was an invasion alert.
 
Anyone have a link to the TL that actually had a Sealion attempted? Used to be on Geocities and was rather good from what I recall. Didn't go beyond the war.
 

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I used the search function to find threads with Sealion, Seelowe and Seel[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]ö[/FONT]we in the title looking just in the After 1900 forum. Perhaps one or two threads with Seeloewe are trying to slip past the British in the dark and there will be probably be a swarm of "successful invasion in 1940" threads that have escaped. I kept the number of posts and views as 19.1.2011 to give some idea of the extent of the discussion. Some of the listed posts do not actually discuss Sealion. For example, one discusses Japanese invasion plans against Australia. However, this list does give some idea of the effort expended by present and former members since 2004.[/FONT]

British after DEFEATED Sealion ( 1 2 3 4 5 6) KillerT 108 4383
British after Sealion ( 1 2 3) Pichuscrat 48 1270
American Sealion ( 1 2 3) Arcvalons 40 1351
Realistic Reverse Sealion Puget Sound 8 575
So HOW disasterous would Sealion be? ( 1 2) henri 31 1705
Operation Sealion, A German Success Evilprodigy 13 601
Saving Private Sealion BlackWave 14 507
Sealion Interview Mostlyharmless 11 742
Sealion Realtime Coxed ( 1 2 3 4) patch_g 70 2897
Sealion '41 Dan 4 512
Hilter's Sealion Ming777 9 602
Operation Sealion ( 1 2) Polarity 23 1010
Sealion Posts ( 1 2 3) merlin 40 1752
An interesting take on Sealion ( 1 2 3 4) Grey Wolf 67 3353
Latest POD for a successful Sealion. Snowstalker 17 556
Perfidious Albion encourages Sealion cerebus 13 776
Billy Mitchell causes successful Operation Sealion! SunilTanna 10 712
Ultimate Challenge (besides Sealion): Mondale beats Reagan! Snowstalker 10 409
Political Consequences of a Failed Sealion usertron2020 7 539
Successful Sealion? ( 1 2 3 4 5) Snowstalker 96 3622
A question about Operation Sealion? EMPEPEROR OF SCANDANAVIA 12 731
Looking for Sealion debunks Alamo 1 292
Plans for the aftermath of a successful Sealion? TheNordicBrit 7 535
Ireland if sealion was sucessful ( 1 2) NIK PARMEN 30 1420
AH Challange-WW1 Sealion King Thomas 12 646
Sealion! ( 1 2 3) varyar 42 1476
DBWI: Sealion!, the musical Dilvish 5 350
Succesful Sealion ( 1 2) Abdul Alhazred 21 709
Asian Sealion Expat 1 304
WI no Sealion plan? BlackWave 5 290
Plausibility Check: Sealion in 1941 Onkel Willie 18 631
Reverse Sealion... Mr Stereo1 9 783
N00BWI: Sealion Lord Malikai 13 520
Effects of a German Debacle Sealion BigWillyG 19 712
WI Churchill tricked Hitler into launching S*****n? King Thomas 6 466
Sealion as a Dieppe-style raid ( 1 2) Onkel Willie 27 1102
Plausibility Check: A Soviet Sealion Fardell 7 341
Sealion With Less 'Sea' eltf177 2 517
To Sealion and Beyond... ( 1 2) Chris 35 1802
After A Failed Sealion rip89 15 725
As queer as a Clockwork Sealion ( 1 2) maverick 27 1532
Operation Sealion Bavarian Raven 12 460
effects of failed sealion kellineil 8 556
Looking for a good Sealion thread mowque 3 222
DBWI Germany had not tried Sealion yourworstnightmare 10 608
WI Sealion Attempted Tyr 17 880
Could Sealion have worked If? ( 1 2) Churchill 23 887
Operation Sealion succeeds... ( 1 2) dmz23 33 1618
Sealion successfull ( 1 2) MUC 26 940
A Dieppe-style Sealion ( 1 2 3) Jason 45 1868
Operation Sealion disaster Michel Van 10 907
BardWI: WI Operation Sealion Was Succesful ( 1 2 3 4) Hannibal.Caesar 60 1868
NoobWI: What if Operation Sealion suceeded? Sid the Bandit 16 661
A More Realistic Sealion Outcome ( 1 2) eltf177 37 1730
A different name for Operation Sealion ( 1 2) DMA 37 1232
N00BWI: how might Sealion succeed? ( 1 2) the_lyniezian 22 778
Plan a Successful Sealion! ( 1 2 3) Nekromans 49 1487
Operation Sealion ( 1 2) zeitenschmiede 27 1200
What if the Germans attempted Sealion... ( 1 2) demonkangaroo 21 1296
Challenge - Make Sealion Possible ! ( 1 2 3) Grey Wolf 45 2251
DBWI: What if Sealion had... failed? ( 1 2) Dean_the_Young 26 1208
Time for the Semiannual Sealion Smackdown! ( 1 2 3 4) Dean_the_Young 75 2774
Operation Sealion Fails Landshark 15 1000
sealion with a sporting chance ( 1 2) Paul Edwards 30 1048
My Attempt on a Successful Sealion Berra 18 725
Operation Sealion ( 1 2) dmz23 32 1048
The effects of a failed Sealion Justin Green 11 867
Poll: SeaLion - the poll ( 1 2 3) Magnum 55 1857
Could Operation Sealion have worked? ( 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10) RCTFI 183 6955
Operatsiya Morskoi Lev - a Soviet Sealion Midgard 9 813
Sealion 67th Tigers 11 589
Operation Sealion by Air?? ( 1 2 3) trajen777 45 1273
Operation Sealion FAILS! Scarecrow 16 672
Wi: Operation Sealion is a plausible TL ( 1 2) Bismarck 22 941
Never mind Sealion here is the attack on the Radiostation Helgoland oberdada 19 655
Operation Sealion ( 1 2) Fenwick 22 903
Operation Sealion ( 1 2 3 4 5 6) Chingo360 116 3170
What if operation Sealion was a success? ( 1 2) Fenwick 39 1001
Yet another Sealion thread aktarian 2 431
Successful Sealion aktarian 7 584
New Sealion: Japanese invasion Down Under? ( 1 2) chrispi 23 1237
Sealion! ...kinda. Tetsu 4 484
WI: Sealion Attempted and Failed ( 1 2) TheLoneAmigo 31 1226
ATL - Successful OP Sealion campaign ( 1 2 3 4) Hail the Omnissiah! 74 2796

Seelowe Succesful!! Mein gott Gustavus Adolphus 2 245
AH Challenge Have Seelowe inflict the Most damage on Britain Gustavus Adolphus 9 419
Seelowe ( 1 2 3 4 5) Graehame 81 3260
AH Challenge: Uber Seelowe, A German invasion of America. ( 1 2) The Red 24 1035


IS Seelöwe The Only Way To German Victory? ( 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 ... Last Page) Dave in St. Louis 213 6233
Seelöwe successful, so what? ( 1 2 3 4) Wyragen-TXRG4P 69 2935
Ultimate Challenge: Unternehmen Seelöwe ( 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9) Ariosto 166 5430


Please add "Why is sealion such a sensitive issue on this forum?"
 
No, you mean it was an ill-thought out, biased wank that most members ignored.
Oh thank you, charming as always. So I guess you find all the other sea-lion entries perfectly well-though out?

And actually, not ignored, quite well visited.
And while we are at it, I guess "the Illiterate Fuhrer" should count as well. Certainly that disproves your point about "the Literate Fuhrer" being ignored.;)
 
I find it remarkable you have enough threads about Operation Sea Lion to it to merit making a sticky thread about it. Even though I'm a long time lurker, I never knew you had that much threads about that one military operation.
 
I don't know about anyone else but I personally think this 'Sticky' needs a bit of a facelift. People regularly send other users in the direction of this thread and say that it is essential reading for anyone that even mentions Sealion or the invasion of Britain. Maybe it should be madde a little easier for people to find the answers to their questions.

The primary aim of this sticky is to list previous threads on the subject but without clicking each link individually, which could take weeks if not months to read through all, it's impossible to know whether the specific details you're looking for have already been covered.

Maybe it would be better to have a list of actual topics/details/questions and links to the threads where the discussions have already taken place with a summary of the discussions.

I know this would be hard work for anyone taking this on but surely it would be more useful than the current format.
 
It could certainly do with being reorganised into sub-headings. A lot of the threads have nothing to do with Sealion, or only a marginal relevance.
 
>Be me
>Go into tvtropes
>Reads a article saying how Sealion is hated in alternativehistory.com
>Cannot understand how a topic can be so hated
>Go to alternativehistory.com
>See this topic
>take a look at how many sealion posts are there

Dude, how the admins still allow people to create so many threads about Sealion?
 
>Be me
>Go into tvtropes
>Reads a article saying how Sealion is hated in alternativehistory.com
>Cannot understand how a topic can be so hated
>Go to alternativehistory.com
>See this topic
>take a look at how many sealion posts are there

Dude, how the admins still allow people to create so many threads about Sealion?
Do you mean this site? :D
 
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