Eisenhower in the Pacific: Part 1 The Shoestring Warriors of Luzon

Jack Brisco

Banned
When things look they are going south, does it look like the some of the Filipinos will be able to slip through Japanese lines and join the guerillas. Some Americans might try, but there odds are not so good. The big change here, in addition to the higher Japanese losses and the longer campaign, is that the Southern PI is a separate command headed by a general of equal rank - Homma, or whomever is in charge, cannot demand the surrender of all forces as the commander on bataan has no such authority.

Yeah, was just wondering how many Americans would make it into the hills. Since everyone knows how the Japanese treat POWs, I see a lot of people trying to get away, and some eating their guns.
 
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On April21st 1942 all the Texas A&M aggies mustered at Corregidor include MG Moore'08 one or the proudest moments in Texas A&M history
 
When things look they are going south, does it look like the some of the Filipinos will be able to slip through Japanese lines and join the guerillas. Some Americans might try, but there odds are not so good. The big change here, in addition to the higher Japanese losses and the longer campaign, is that the Southern PI is a separate command headed by a general of equal rank - Homma, or whomever is in charge, cannot demand the surrender of all forces as the commander on bataan has no such authority.
I'd imagine taking small boats across the bay rather than trying to infiltrate Japanese lines. Unless you that's what you had in mind.
 
They'd probably have more volunteers than boats. Doubt anyone is excited about being captured by the Japanese.
Errr.... And the chances of getting captured if you try to sneak through a couple of miles of Japanese lines to get out to the peninsula have got to be pretty high.
Heck, even taking boats across might result in 50% being captured before they managed to link up with resistance forces. Surely sneaking through Japanese lines would be much riskier than that? Especially after the first handful have been captured.
IMO the Japanese would assume they were deserters, and they HATED deserters, AFAIK.
 
Will be interesting to see if by prolonging the battle in the Philippines, the Battling Bastards of Bataan are giving Eisenhower a chance to reinforce Rabaul
 
I'd imagine taking small boats across the bay rather than trying to infiltrate Japanese lines. Unless you that's what you had in mind.

looking at that very thing right now... the Filipino Coast Guard still has 3 PT boats, 3 gunboats, some tugs and yard tenders, and various small craft, while the USN still has the Canopus

Reviewing what the Japanese have assigned to the area too.... I will make a final decision over the next few days

I am also reviewing closely the map and Japanese unit densities
 
Will be interesting to see if by prolonging the battle in the Philippines, the Battling Bastards of Bataan are giving Eisenhower a chance to reinforce Rabaul

a lot of butterflies are adding up toward that very thing.... the South Pacific Campaign is going to be the biggest ITTL change
 
How did the Bataan defenders hear about the atrocities on Luzon?

There is some radio traffic between stay behind units and Bataan, as well as a a trickle of civilians via small boats coming to and from. Civilians reported what they saw. Also of course there are the periodic battlefield discoveries of gruesome details.

and the stragglers mentioned above
 

Guardian54

Banned
Were any of these crimes ever investigated and put on trial?

No.

The General in charge, who tried repeatedly to enforce discipline in Nanjing and stop his troops from going nuts, but who was undermined by Prince Asaka letting the troops run loose, got hanged after the war.

Prince Asaka got away scot-free.

These things really helped Mao rally China to anti-Americanism, and with good reason too.
 
No.

The General in charge, who tried repeatedly to enforce discipline in Nanjing and stop his troops from going nuts, but who was undermined by Prince Asaka letting the troops run loose, got hanged after the war.

Prince Asaka got away scot-free.

These things really helped Mao rally China to anti-Americanism, and with good reason too.

OMG thats to bad, maybe in this timeline things could be different
 

Guardian54

Banned
OMG thats to bad, maybe in this timeline things could be different

This sounds a lot like "put every single adult male of the Japanese Imperial family on trial for war crimes except maybe Hirohito (and even then only if he actively overrides the miltiary to force a surrender). Also inform them that if any one or more of them commit seppuku then the Emperor will be put on trial as well." to me, for some reason.
 
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