Can't wait for Hitler's Japanese adventure. Domo arigatou Mister Okami
I’m toying with the idea of Hitler leaving Japan with a samurai katana, as a gift from a Japanese officer or official he meets there. I have the key plot points of him being in Japan planned out, but a lot of the middling details are placeholders and open to change. Would the Japanese government gift a katana to a foreign National?
Or him meeting and hitting it off with Frank Lloyd Wright over Architecture while both are in Tokyo.
Ehh, maybe. He will meet some known names while there (Japanese and other), but it won’t be very obscure people like that. If anything, maybe in passing at some event.
I wonder if he’ll meet Sydney Greenstreet on the trip? He was always lurking on those steamers to the Orient.😉
Again, maybe. And he didn’t become a known actor till the 40s so mid-20s he’s an unknown.
 
I’m toying with the idea of Hitler leaving Japan with a samurai katana, as a gift from a Japanese officer or official he meets there. I have the key plot points of him being in Japan planned out, but a lot of the middling details are placeholders and open to change. Would the Japanese government gift a katana to a foreign National?
Not sure the government as a whole would, but maybe he strikes a deep friendship with Tojo or some other person from the military/politics who'd become important.
 
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I’m toying with the idea of Hitler leaving Japan with a samurai katana, as a gift from a Japanese officer or official he meets there. I have the key plot points of him being in Japan planned out, but a lot of the middling details are placeholders and open to change. Would the Japanese government gift a katana to a foreign National?
You could have Hitler receive a Shin guntō, a ceremonial sword/katana that is produced by the Imperial Japanese Army and Navy instead of an actual Katana.
 
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I’m toying with the idea of Hitler leaving Japan with a samurai katana, as a gift from a Japanese officer or official he meets there. I have the key plot points of him being in Japan planned out, but a lot of the middling details are placeholders and open to change. Would the Japanese government gift a katana to a foreign National?
Have him receive Sakura seeds that he plants upon returning to Austria. He takes care of the tree and sees it sprout, turning into a reminder of the low point of his political career. It becomes a symbol of how beautiful things can come from unexpected places and its continued growth continues to inspire Hitler.
And then BAM! It gets blown up or scorched in a bombing raid at the end of the War.
 
I'm wondering if Hitler gets international recognition due to some unknown actions during the Great Kantō earthquake that propels his political career?
Nevermind, Hitler becomes a diplomat on November and the Kantō earthquake happens in September. Second guess he becomes buddy buddy with the Militarist.
 
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Have him receive Sakura seeds that he plants upon returning to Austria. He takes care of the tree and sees it sprout, turning into a reminder of the low point of his political career. It becomes a symbol of how beautiful things can come from unexpected places and its continued growth continues to inspire Hitler.
And then BAM! It gets blown up or scorched in a bombing raid at the end of the War.
Now thats just sad :(
 
You could have Hitler receive a Shin guntō, a ceremonial sword/katana that is produced by the Imperial Japanese Army and Navy instead of an actual Katana.
That’s an excellent idea! The only downside is the shin guntō wasn’t produced until 1935-1945. But that’s the right idea. Perhaps he is issued it as a gift from a ranking Japanese politician/officer he befriends over there.
Have him receive Sakura seeds that he plants upon returning to Austria. He takes care of the tree and sees it sprout, turning into a reminder of the low point of his political career. It becomes a symbol of how beautiful things can come from unexpected places and its continued growth continues to inspire Hitler.
And then BAM! It gets blown up or scorched in a bombing raid at the end of the War.
(Slow clap) that’s a fantastic idea. This is for sure happening now. Can a Sakura tree even survive in Austria’s climate? I’m sure we could handwave this if need be as it’s just a cool image.
Now I’m imaging that scene from Valkyrie when German Reserve Army troops storm SS headquarters and pass by a lot of swastika flags. Have the Kruckenkreuz and Sakura trees instead.
I'm wondering if Hitler gets international recognition due to some unknown actions during the Great Kantō earthquake that propels his political career?
Nevermind, Hitler becomes a diplomat on November and the Kantō earthquake happens in September. Second guess he becomes buddy buddy with the Militarist.
Let’s just say that Hitler, as the Black Wolf, Hero of Hill 53, and Defender of Carinthia, will earn him respect from several Japanese officials.
Maybe the French will say: we chose the wrong enemy.
Mhmm. The French Are paralyzed, wanting to contain a resurgent Germany that they not only ignore Austria’s growing threat, they assist it in several ways.
I wonder how Hitler's relation with Poland will be?
Hitler here won’t have OTL Hitler’s view on the Polish country. He regrets that Austria-Hungary lost territory to them but at least no Austrian territory fell to them, in his mind.
 
(Slow clap) that’s a fantastic idea. This is for sure happening now. Can a Sakura tree even survive in Austria’s climate? I’m sure we could handwave this if need be as it’s just a cool image.
Now I’m imaging that scene from Valkyrie when German Reserve Army troops storm SS headquarters and pass by a lot of swastika flags. Have the Kruckenkreuz and Sakura trees instead.
The Japanese Paulownia trees seem to grow very well in central Europe
 
Addition: Hitlers Personal Sakura Tree Coincidentaly or Metaphorically sheds a flower petal when something bad happens,
Like: Kristallnacht style Big Pogroms or begining of WW2, leaving one last Petal to shed or Shedding all of the Petals at the end before its blown up.
 
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Addition: Hitlers Personal Sakura Tree Coincidentaly or Metaphorically sheds a flower petal when something bad happens,
Like: Kristallnacht style Big Pogroms or begining of WW2, leaving one last Petal to shed or Shedding all of the Petals at the end before its blown up.
Flower trees shed their petals all the time. I'm not sure that would really be workable, especially if bad things happen when before blooming season.
 
Flower trees shed their petals all the time.
Thats why, even if there is a pogrom in the dead of winter it can happen.
I said this as I knew flower trees shed petal all year round.
Also,the Sakura Tree doesn't need to shed petals physically, its somewhat of a metaphor.
 
Thats why, even if there is a pogrom in the dead of winter it can happen.
I said this as I knew flower trees shed petal all year round.
Also,the Sakura Tree doesn't need to shed petals physically, its somewhat of a metaphor.
No, they don't. Just google it. Cherry Blossom trees don't bloom all year around.
 
Hey, everyone, as I currently write the next chapter, I want to wish you all a Happy Thanksgiving, both to my American and Canadian viewers (and to whomever else celebrates it or an equivalent holiday).

To help fill in the time until the next chapter, I have
brainstormed some ideas that I would like community feedback and insight on, mainly related to 20th/21st Century media and literature entertainment but also for the Der Kampf story as a whole. Some will be repeat info, others will be shared with y’all for the first time. I’m going to be going on some concept rants, so just bear with me. Apologies if it appears mindless, I wrote this down via my phone as it came to me.

Also Hitler will have a cherry blossom tree in some private Sozinat garden. Probably wherever his equivalent to the Berghof will be. Any location ideas for a Berghof equivalent?

Now I stated from from the beginning that World War Two in Der Kampf (Second Great War is used frequently as well, though that might seem a bit more Turtledove-esque but I like the name a lot) will be a smidge smaller in body count due to various factors, namely that Sozinat Austria does not conquer as much nor is able to carry out a Holocaust ti the same degree as Nazi Germany. This does not mean WW2 isn’t horrifying here and nor does that mean that the Holocaust doesn’t happen. It does, just smaller in scale with slightly different persecuted groups (mainly no Slavs are killed for racial reasons due to them being Aryans here, with the sole exception being Serbians). The Sozinats are Monsters just like the Nazis, they just have less reach and opportunity.

So DK’s WW2 might be smaller in body count, but it makes up for that with some different warzones. Parts of the world that were affected by OTL WW2 will be spared here (ex: Norway/Denmark) but other parts will suffer/suffer more than its OTL counterpart (ex: Finland).

Now many of these will make sense due to different geo-political and ideological aims of a Social Nationalist Austria rather than a National Socialist Germany. Austria here, while annexing and expanding influence into lands of the former Austro-Hungarian Empire, is far more focused on being the leader of a economic-military alliance (the Axis) rather than conquer everything in the name of lebensraum. Hitler here is thinking “Why take and hold when it’s easier to manipulate and be given.”

Austria here will have far more allies (many of them puppets/client states) than Nazi Germany. That’s how they become a major threat, via leading an alliance than just it being them conquering everything.

Now to “help” out the DK Axis, I’m envisioning there being a spike in fascist movements in the world, particularly in South America. Due to the Soviet Heptarchy (spearheaded by Sverdlov) rather than a Soviet Triumvirate (spearheaded by Stalin) there is a bit more focus on propping up international communism which causes a reaction in a rise of far-right parties. Not quite to projected Trotsky-levels of world revolution but not quite Stalin’s Socilaism in One Country doctrine.

Having fascist nations in South America will have the U.S. eying that and focusing on their backyard more so than in Asia and Europe, at least in the late ‘30s. I was thinking about the Fascist Bloc in South America being Chile, Ecuador, and Argentina with significant Fascist movements in Bolivia, Colombia and El Salvador but these fail to secure power. I also would like a Communist Brazil as I mentioned a couple of months ago, but feedback was generally “don’t do it” but if fascism rises then wouldn’t Communism also take at least one Country in SA, especially with a different Soviet leadership.

Now these nations will not be direct allies of the Sozinats but rather trade partners and the like. I was contemplating that Fascism here becomes an umbrella term, with Italian Fascism, Social Nationalism, Falangism, and National Syndicalism all as subsets of the wider Fascist ideology.

Is it realistic for Chile, Ecuador and Argentina to go fascist by the early to mid 1930s? To help these countries turn to Fascism, the Austrians will expend a fair amount of money and gift leftover/dated military equipment to them, as well as mutually beneficial trade deals with potentially assassination and political pressure to encourage the rise of like-minded movements. This will all be done under the supervision of high ranking Sozinat Fridolin Glass. He is going to be the guy Hitler goes to for foreign intelligence and operations. He is historical but not much is known about him but he was ambitious, took initiative and was a dedicated Nazi (from what little I can gather) so here he’ll be a vital cog in the Sozinat machine.

I do have a general timeline laid out with major plot points either mapped out or planned for up until the end of the war, but I’ve had to do some reshuffling. I was originally going to have the European Theatre last from 1941 to 1945 with the war starting over the Axis invasion of <CLASSIFIED> but I’ve decided to change that to 1940-1944. The African Theatre will be shorter than OTL while the Pacific Theatre might last longer than OTL. I’m less certain on aspects of the Pacific for Der Kampf as this is a Eurocentric alt-history (as of now). I just have general story beats in my head for Asia, some of which I’m sure will cause the call for rewrites or modification of some sort.

I tried to make it subtle but I’m sure most of y’all figured out Lieselotte will be Hitler’s partner. Trying to write a romance plot involving Hitler of all people is a bit weird for me so I’m going to largely leave it vague and off-screen. Just enough to show people, especially book readers who haven’t read the original draft on AH.com, that they become involved.

I will also like to state that I have Hitler’s fate planned out. Was in my concept stage from the very beginning when I pitched the story idea to a few people for feedback and to gauge interest. So while things in Der Kampf have and will change based on feedback, I’m certain Hitler’s fate will be one most will find… satisfactory.

Many characters you have so far met and for those to come have had their fates loosely decided on. Simon Golmayer, Franz Olbrecht, and Paul Lutjens have all had their fates planned out but these are subject to change of course.

For Hitler’s inner circle/ministers/top ranking government members I am going to have to make a separate post about that with info declaring if they are fictional or historical. Suggestions welcome as there are a LOT of blank slots open right now. Olbrecht will command the Sturmwache-Leibgarde. Staatsprotektor Kaltenbrunner the Staatschutz (Sozinat SS, though I need a name change to differentiate from OTL SS. Original was Staatsverteidigung, SVS, but was noted as odd in German so wouldn’t make sense got a German speaking country to use). Seyss-Inquart is… something. Maybe Foreign Minister? I have a guy named Breslauer as Propaganda Minister. I vaguely remember basing him off a historical Nazi that worked under Goebbels but I can’t for the life of me remember who.

Last thing for the actual story: Austria will have a navy… sort of. When Hitler comes to power he does make a Volksmarine but it is mainly rived torpedo boats and customs inspection parties.

But once Austria starts to expand and especially once it gets some coastline there will be a small navy. It is not the focus of Austria’s manpower, money or resources so let me know if it’s too big.

I was thinking during the mid/late 1930s that the Sozinats commission the Italians to build for them a heavy cruiser (flagship), a light cruiser, 3 destroyers and a dozen corvettes with the pride of the fleet being 20-30 or so submarines that are to be largely used in the Mediterranean. Add in a few other ships captured from occupied countries to supplement this a smidge but not by much. Is this too large of a navy or too small for the Austrians, or even perhaps just right? I haven’t gone into detail about how large the Austrian State will be and will keep that under wraps due to spoilers. So I know it’s more difficult to guess because you as the reader don’t quite know how large or powerful Austria gets here.

Now onto other matters. As mentioned many months ago, the U.S. will focus more of its effort and forces in the Pacific whenever it joins the war. As a result the big bad in many American WW2 games and movies will not be Sozinat Austria but rather Imperial Japan.

This could lead to a very different Band of Brothers, Saving Private Ryan, Medal of Honor and Call of Duty games, at least where their focus is.

Here is a list of books/games/movies that we can only guess and ponder at how thwould be similar/different to OTL:
-Star Wars
-Medal of Honor
-Call of Duty
-Comic Books like Captain America
-Worldwar by Harry Turtledove
-Wolfenstein (would the enemy be a fictional Unit 732 with Samurai mechs and a Japan dominated world, or a Sozinat dominated Europe using Jewish and Serbian “science” to conquer the world)
-Call of Duty: Vanguard, instead of Hermann Freisinger, it is our very own Fridolin Glass)
-The Man in the High Castle (an Austrian and Japanese divided world between them)

These are only a few examples with lots of wiggle room to change at your heart’s content.

Anyway, my rambling is done. Hope y’all enjoyed snd if you have any thoughts, questions, comments, etc, on the story beats shared or the speculative entertainment section feel free to share them. Can be on one thing or another or all of it. Whatever sparked your interest.

TL;DR
-story beats
-fascism in South America
-list of high ranking Sozinat Austrian officials
-Volksmarine
-how would Austria and Japan be the big bad and how they are portrayed in film/tv/games/literature
 
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Also Hitler will have a cherry blossom tree in some private Sozinat garden. Probably wherever his equivalent to the Berghof will be. Any location ideas for a Berghof equivalent?

When Hitler inevitably gets Tyrol back from Italy, he could always build his version of the Berghof in the Lizumer Reckner, so as to stake his personal claim on this territory that has been restored to Austria.


Allternatively, there are all kinds of mountain ranges in the Central Eastern Alps.



He was that in OTL.
Perhaps Sports Minister.

Seyess Inquart was only Foreign Minister for three days between 30th April - 2nd May 1945. I think Tanner wants to make Seyess Inquart his equivalent of Ribbentrop.
 
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