I suppose?
That happened IOTL, it just so happens that Kampuchea has more staying power here. I suspect the Pol Pot nonsense still happened.
An Examination of Extra-Universal Systems of Government
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I suppose?
That happened IOTL, it just so happens that Kampuchea has more staying power here. I suspect the Pol Pot nonsense still happened.
Back with another cover, this time of the German Confederation. As always, many thanks to Ephraim ben Raphael for helping me out and making the original.
Pflicht und Verantwortung
- The PoD is the German Peasants' Revolt succeeding, and causing a new wave of violence across Europe.
- The War of Spanish Succession (1602 - 1638) happened under different circumstances; this time, the Spanish were trying to claim the Portuguese throne, and this drove Europe into a general war that lasted for almost forty years. It also eventually led to the fall of the Kingdom of France, and the reduction of the Bourbons to Paris. It ended with the Peace of Lyon, which recognized the Spanish claim to Portugal, but in exchange, much of South America was transferred over to England and Scotland, although the Spanish were able to retain North America, which was perceived to be unprofitable. France was to remain divided, with each new kingdom choosing its own religion.
- The plantation of Ulster failed to take.
- Aquitaine is still under the Plantagenets.
- England and Scotland are under different branches of the Stuarts.
- Italy went through a unification similar to OTL.
- There has never been a successful democratic republic ITTL, constitutional monarchies are quite popular however. Much of Europe and the New World are under constitutional monarchies. Subject to debate is the Kongsi Federation, which is effectively a corporate state with an elected president, but the only eligible candidate is the son of the previous president or another member of the board/nobility.
- The few republics existing are nasty dictatorships, recognized by few governments apart from each other. Siam and Ndebele are ethnocentric/*fascist dictatorships, while the Low Countries is a utopian, "erase all identities" oligarchy that has imposed a constructed language and national identity on its people.
- China collapsed into civil war in the 19th century, and after hefty foreign intervention and famine, never managed to reunite. Each Chinese state believes it has inherited the Mandate of Heaven, and small wars and border incidents between them are common.
- India was divided between English, Scottish and Spanish colonies, with a few independent kingdoms within, until the rise of a new Indian empire centered in Delhi. They succeeded in kicking out the Europeans through a series of wars in the early 20th century, and are considered a pain in the ass.
- Russia's colonization of Asia isn't as successful, thanks to greater involvement in European affairs, which led to more defeats at the hands of Poland and Sweden, more civil wars, and more famines.
- Yes, that is former Scottish Australia/New Zealand. However, its ethnic composition nowadays is mostly Irish and French.
- Post-colonial associations are more popular, since most newly independent states are kingdoms run by cadet branches of their colonizers.
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Of the various blocs, are there any considered the most powerful economically or militarily? Have any great World War type wars occurred here?
Your description in 2 under the map looks cut off. Is there supposed to be more?
Are native majority kingdons like the Kingdom of the Apache allied with any blocs or are they independent?
Your description in 2 under the map looks cut off. Is there supposed to be more?
Are native majority kingdons like the Kingdom of the Apache allied with any blocs or are they independent?
Yes, the content holes are being filled!
So, what next? The Suez Canal boat-fleet State?
Yep, and then I'll flesh out what I had in mind for the United Kingdoms of Austria-Hungary-Slavonia.
My cover of the world from the Sovereign Association of the Great Bitter Lake, rounding out my covers of EBR's EEUSG entries (for now). As always, many thanks to EBR for helping me with this and for providing most of the text in the description.
La Lasta Espero Por Homaro
- The POD is the establishment of a couple of small Israeli communities close to the Suez Canal, followed by some anti-Sadat officers fleeing to the Yellow Fleet. The big divergence was when the USA failed to provide Israel with military supplies during the Yom Kippuer War.
- WWIII happened as a result of a 1983-style nuclear false alarm incident, where the officer on duty was someone other than Colonel Stanislav Petrov. The Soviets began launching, realized when the American missiles that their computers were reporting failed to materialize that they had made mistake, contacted the Americans who were also starting to launch, fortunately both countries put things on hold and after a week of negations agreed to meet in the Great Bitter Lake to make peace.
- Most of the initial strikes targeted major military bases in the US, USSR, and their allies (clearing the way for the bombers and other missiles), but they also hit some major cities. The negotiations conducted before the conference at the SAGB were between Soviet military leadership in bunkers beneath radioactive Moscow and the Airborne Emergency Action Officer on board Looking Glass Squadron.
- The USA and the USSR are at peace but hate each other with a fury born of 20 million martyrs. Both have become more authoritarian, the more moderate Soviet leaders who negotiated the peace have been replaced by hardliners who insist that the computer glitch was some kind of American plot.
- In addition to the military bases, the following cities were hit: New York City, Washington D.C., San Francisco, Chicago, Los Angeles, Honolulu, London, Moscow, Kiev, Leningrad, Minsk, Vladivostok, Omsk and Volgograd.
- A lot of Soviet and Americans allies have deserted them- no one wants to get caught in a WWIV and WWIII left both superpowers much weaker and thus unable to fund and maintain their big overseas spheres of influence the way they once were. So the rest of the world is mostly trying to move on, even as the superpowers remain locked in their own little Cold War. The USA and the USSR are somewhat akin to rogue states, and their handful of remaining allies tend to go even further into rogue state territory.
- The Non-Aligned League is very powerful and led by India which has the world's largest economy (followed closely by China which is not an NAL member).
- The UN is based in Berlin, which is an international free city. Berlin remains legally not part of any country (as it was considered OTL by the West) pending the reunion of Germany and now includes East Berlin as well.
- The eastern part of East Germany is under a die-hard communist military regime, and is still part of the Warsaw Pact.
- The European Community is a group of European countries pissed at the old superpowers who blame them for catching Europe in the middle of WWIII. France leads them.
- The Israelis still have the Sinai, the Suez Canal is administered by a join Israeli-Egyptian commission. The Arab-Israeli conflict is gradually cooling off, there is currently an autonomous Palestinian government in control of parts of Gaza and the West Bank in the process of transitioning into real independence.
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By having a relatively small population and Soviet resupply via air (nobody is going to shoot those planes down).
Probably France.
Seeing this in the same sentence as this:
Confuses the heck out of me.
How do these two things coexist?
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Egypt and Israel fought three wars over the issue, one of which went nuclear prior to WWIII. Since they lost their superpower patrons following the 1985 war they've calmed down somewhat as neither wants another shooting war. They've worked out a compromise to re-open the canal, and things are even though they don't like each other there is an understanding that diplomacy is the only way they're going to get things done.
This is the last EEUSG cover until EBR makes some more, which explores the world of the United Kingdoms of Austria-Hungary-Slavonia.
Drei Völker, Ein Reich
- The PoD is that Franz Ferdinand was never assassinated, but manages to piss off the Hungarians enough to provoke an Austro-Hungarian civil war.
- The Great War began in 1924, between Germany and an alliance of France and Russia. Russia falls to civil war before the war's end, leading to the rise of the Soviet Union, but the exhausted Germans are defeated by a French offensive a month later, before German troops from the East overwhelmed the West. This led to the same sort of stab in the back myths. Germany is allowed to retain the monarchy, but loses territory to France, Poland and Denmark.
- Poland is the only surviving anti-Bolshevik state that the French supported in the East at the end of the war, and is still a strong French ally against Nationalist Germany.
- Germany is an aging autocracy, not unlike the Brezhnev-era Soviet Union IOTL. The German National Party is the only legal political "party," but it's actually a coalition of various separate parties (including the DNVP and the NSDAP). The Kaiser is a powerless figurehead.
- The USSR is more a modern China deal, but hostile to the West; they're making bank in the East, and have their own alliance that challenges the Entente in a cold war. The Soviets were the primary backers of anti-colonial movements. Stalin took a more internationalist stance ITTL, but supported even non-socialist and non-communist independence movements on the idea that they will become socialist later.
- The Soviets defeated the Japanese after intervening on behalf of the Republic of China, which was under the control of the left-wing factions. The CCP was crushed after the Soviets refused to aid them, since they were unwilling to abide by Soviet rule. Japan was humiliated and forced to sign away their colonial empire, which angered the militarists and allowed them to stage a coup against the peace government a few years after the war. A junta still rules Japan, which has resumed its isolation from the rest of the world.
- Italy was a fascist state for a while, but that fell apart after Mussolini's death in the 1970s and the king refused to go with the Fascist Party platform until democracy was restored. Italy was always an Entente member, although there was controversy over putting down the Libyan uprisings.
- Chile and Libya are Italian-inspired fascists. They have no friends apart from Germany and Japan.
- The United States is still isolationist, with regard to the Old World. They are sponsoring anti-communist governments in the New World.
- The Ottoman Empire and Egypt are fairly rich countries, far more stable than their OTL counterparts. They're secular, with the Ottomans in particular being Kemalists, and they have crushed radical Islam.
- India is deeply divided between Hindu and Muslim, and is a hotbed for radicals of both religions. There are occasional massacres and car bombings, which are covered up by the Indian press.
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I think it'd be cool to have a "United States of Indochina" i.e. Ho Chi Minh's hope for the Americans to support Vietnamese independence at Versailles succeeds. [eventually]
EDIT: Just clarifying, this is supposed to be a prompt.
EDIT: Just clarifying, this is supposed to be a prompt.
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IOTL, the Soviets supported the RoC against Japan in the earlier stages of the war.
No WWI that involved them, oil revenue, and because the British support the Arabs and Persians (regional rivals for the Ottomans).
Denmark participated in the war near the end, and had to pay for its debts by selling the islands.
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