Alternate Electoral Maps III

Man of Steel: Richard Nixon Wins in 1960
Part Three: The 1980s

1980 Presidential Election
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1984 Presidential Election
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1988 Presidential Election
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A map for a NationStates nation I am currently working on. It depicts the election of 1964 in the newly-created Dominion of East and Central Africa, which in its first election utilises three separate electoral rolls: One for Europeans, one for Arabs & Indians and one for indigenous Africans. Most parties, including those standing candidates on the European roll, are supportive of transitioning away from this model in favour of a single electoral roll for all voters, but the Conservative Alliance (Rhodesian Front analogue) - which garners its support from conservative Europeans and from Zanzibari Arabs - is strongly opposed to this. In this election they won 25 seats, which places them in a strong position against an incoming minority coalition government formed by the Liberal Party, United Democratic Party and African Democratic Union.

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On the European Roll (left) yellow signifies the Liberal Party (liberalism, multiracialism), blue the United Democratic Party (liberal conservatism) and purple the Conservative Alliance (conservatism). The Asian Roll (centre) mostly elected independents, except for candidates affiliated with the East African Indian National Congress. Many of the voters on this roll reside in British South Arabia. The African Roll (right) is divided between heavyweights of the African nationalist movement coloured black (African nationalism) and green (conciliatory nationalism, Gandhian pacifism).

The number of seats per electoral roll is not weighted equally by population: European electors command 50 of 100 seats in the Legislative Assembly. Overall, the Conservative Alliance won 25 seats, the African National Congress 19, United Democratic Party 11 and Liberal Party 9.
 
The number of seats per electoral roll is not weighted equally by population
I'm guessing apportionment isn't either considering Kenya and Tanzania having a similar number of seats to Zimbabwe on the Asian and African Rolls and far fewer on the European Roll, or is population distribution different in TTL? Also, what are the red seats in South Arabia on the Asian Roll?

Looks like an interesting scenario, to be clear, I hope I don't sound like I'm being rude by asking this bunch of questions.
 
I'm guessing apportionment isn't either considering Kenya and Tanzania having a similar number of seats to Zimbabwe on the Asian and African Rolls and far fewer on the European Roll, or is population distribution different in TTL? Also, what are the red seats in South Arabia on the Asian Roll?

Looks like an interesting scenario, to be clear, I hope I don't sound like I'm being rude by asking this bunch of questions.
Well, one would underestimate just how uneven the European population distribution was. Whites were overwhelmingly concentrated in S. Rhodesia.

Differences are due to other factors as well, namely that each constituent colony has to have at least one seat on each roll (i.e. colonies with a tiny European or Asian population still get one. So if Asians are allotted 20 seats, then colonies which deserve the most end up losing seats to others whose Asian population is negligible, but still need at least one. And, again in the case of Asians, a colony which has many, many, many more Asian residents (i.e. South Arabia) will end up skewing the apportionment and result in places like Arab-heavy(?) Zanzibar only getting one seat, putting it on par with a place like Nyasaland.)
Considering there are strict literacy and property requirements, this means that only educated Africans have the opportunity to vote: So again, Southern Rhodesian Africans have a greater number of seats than, say, Tanganyikans. Not because S. Rhodesia has a greater population, but because it has a greater population of Africans eligible to vote.

The red-coloured seats in South Arabia belong to the National Liberation Organisation, led by Qahtan Muhammad al-Shaabi.
 
Basically a conspiracy is revealed that the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy was a hit ordered by Richard Nixon. When this news comes out, the president instantly resigns and fringe primary challenger John M. Ashbrook is selected as the nominee. He picks Bill Brock as his running mate.

Meanwhile, George McGovern chooses Ruebin Askew and easily cruises to victory as the result of widespread hatred of the Republicans.

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County Map

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Two Maps

First, an alternate 1988 based on a presidential list by Padric1938

Republican: Pat Robertson / George Deukmejian (293 ECV)

Democratic: Ted Kennedy / Bill Clinton (233 ECV)

Freedom: Clint Eastwood / Ron Paul (7 ECV)

American Independent: Bob Richards / David Duke (4 ECV)

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Second, 2000 in a world where the party haven’t changed much since 1950.

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Two Maps

First, an alternate 1988 based on a presidential list by Padric1938

Republican: Pat Robertson / George Deukmejian (293 ECV)

Democratic: Ted Kennedy / Bill Clinton (233 ECV)

Freedom: Clint Eastwood / Ron Paul (7 ECV)

American Independent: Bob Richards / David Duke (4 ECV)

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Second, 2000 in a world where the party haven’t changed much since 1950.

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The first map shows up fine, but the second one isn't showing up at all for some reason.
 
Two Maps

First, an alternate 1988 based on a presidential list by Padric1938

Republican: Pat Robertson / George Deukmejian (293 ECV)

Democratic: Ted Kennedy / Bill Clinton (233 ECV)

Freedom: Clint Eastwood / Ron Paul (7 ECV)

American Independent: Bob Richards / David Duke (4 ECV)

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Second, 2000 in a world where the party haven’t changed much since 1950.

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Could we get a county map for the second one?
 
I did a wacky thing with Max's basemap for the last Bundestag election.

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Interesting to see how much of SPD strongholds East Germany outside of Mecklenburg and Pomerania was before WW2.
After the wall fell and the industry in the east was dead, people favored for a long time the CDU that brought reunification. And if that wasn't in their taste, they rather preferred the PDS/Linke over the SPD partly duo to Ostalgie. And now the AfD duo to modern political reason that we won't go into.
 
Interesting to see how much of SPD strongholds East Germany outside of Mecklenburg and Pomerania was before WW2.
After the wall fell and the industry in the east was dead, people favored for a long time the CDU that brought reunification. And if that wasn't in their taste, they rather preferred the PDS/Linke over the SPD partly duo to Ostalgie. And now the AfD duo to modern political reason that we won't go into.
Yeah, the East getting subsumed into the Eastern Bloc was only partly because the USSR got there first and ran the occupation zone, it was also part of the sociopolitical state of the region at the time. A lot of it was heavily industrialised, indifferent to religion and/or working-class, so favoured the SPD and KPD (and the SED in the brief pre-bloc party period, and then the PDS/Die Linke).
 
1980 Presidential Election
Democratic: Henry M. Jackson (WA) / Pat Robertson (VA)
Republican: John B. Anderson (IL) / Jim Jeffords (VT)
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Referendum in the papal state
But how does the Papal State even get so far to have a referendum if it's an theocratic elective absolute monarchy? Or did the Pope had to give most of his worldly powers away duo to the size of the Papal State compared to OTL?
 
But how does the Papal State even get so far to have a referendum if it's an theocratic elective absolute monarchy? Or did the Pope had to give most of his worldly powers away duo to the size of the Papal State compared to OTL?
Basicaly the papal state had a revolution in a period similar to 1848, the revolutionary governmant was anti clerical at the start but afther an election round it became more moderate, at the same time the equivalent to Austria solved his own revolution and pressured the new roman republic to acept a compromise whit the pope. Now the pope is basicaly a figurehead like the king of the Uk, ha still has some temporal power and just by beeng the pope his word has a lot of influence.
The resulting state his very very socialy conservative (the do not have civil unions and homosexuality was officialy porsecuted in the 80s), at the same time the papal state is very caring for the poor.
 
Basicaly the papal state had a revolution in a period similar to 1848, the revolutionary governmant was anti clerical at the start but afther an election round it became more moderate, at the same time the equivalent to Austria solved his own revolution and pressured the new roman republic to acept a compromise whit the pope. Now the pope is basicaly a figurehead like the king of the Uk, ha still has some temporal power and just by beeng the pope his word has a lot of influence.
The resulting state his very very socialy conservative (the do not have civil unions and homosexuality was officialy porsecuted in the 80s), at the same time the papal state is very caring for the poor.
So basically no care for the LGBTQ but having a very strong social system for the poor and unfortunate.
What about religious minorities such as "heathens and heretics".
 
So basically no care for the LGBTQ but having a very strong social system for the poor and unfortunate.
What about religious minorities such as "heathens and heretics".
The non cristian ar a smal minority, ther are a lot of jews in Rome and some muslims, they are trited the same by the state, still ther is the predictable kind of religious discrimination that you woud immagine, only catholic have been prime ministers and basicaly the same is true for any other important position.
Atheist are in a similar position
 
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I made a new thing for my Czechoslovakia TL!

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The Bohemian National Council had originally been considered under the First Czechoslovak Republic, but it wasn’t formed as an independent legislature for Bohemia until late 1982, when the first Havel government divided the Czech National Council founded in the 1960s federalisation programme into two. In this form, it provided a start in government to Miloš Zeman, a populist critic of the Havel government who became Prime Minister after the 1986 election and would serve in that role until he became Czechoslovak Prime Minister in 1993.

Zeman’s government in the region became the main thorn in Havel’s side from the left, and Zeman used what provincial authority he had to fight against the privatization processes of the federal government- admittedly the control the federal government has over most financial affairs besides certain social programmes is quite tight, but Bohemian voters understood this and saw Zeman as a champion of the people.

The ČSSD would struggle to retain its popularity after Zeman took over the federal government, though, and his declining popularity on the national stage meant that it was only the OLS’s split and the formation of an even-handed coalition with the ČSL that allowed his successor Jan Sokol to hold onto control of Bohemia for the party. When the 1998 election came around, the Bohemian election was a major opportunity for the reformed OLS to prove its popularity, and former Mayor of Prague Jan Kasl became the first non- ČSSD Prime Minister of Bohemia in 12 years.

Kasl’s triumph would be short-lived for the OLS, though, as he fell out with the party leadership prior to the 2002 election and Václav Klaus Jr., the son of the former OLS leader and standard bearer of the party’s right, took over for the campaign. This went poorly for the party- while Klaus Jr. was able to capitalize on public sympathy after hostile news media mocked his deformed face, the ČSSD brought out one Miloš Zeman to lead them into the election, and this allowed them to easily win back control of the National Council.

After re-election in 2006, Zeman chose not to run again so he could focus on his 2010 presidential campaign, and while he would be successful in this venture, the Bohemian ČSSD would not be so lucky. The leadership of the OLS in the region was taken up by Karel Schwarzenburg, a major rival of Czechoslovak Prime Minister Iveta Radičová. Schwarzenburg successfully distanced the regional party from the federal one, in part thanks to a misfired campaign poster by the ČSSD. The poster depicted Schwarzenburg covered in rotten fruit in a parody of the famous painting of Bohemian King Rudolf II as the Roman god Vertumnus, mocking his aristocratic roots, but Schwarzenburg seized on the comparison, claiming he would ‘be the Vertmunus who brings on a new spring to Bohemia’.

Indeed, Schwarzenburg would win two terms as Prime Minister of Bohemia in 2010 and 2014 (with most of the OLS in the Bohemian National Council being loyal to him when he and Andrej Babiš split off from the party to form the PDS), but by 2018 the national picture had gotten more complicated. The far-right ČSS and radical ZaP were picking up momentum, and that year’s election saw the main left-wing and right-wing parties reduced to their smallest numbers in the history of the National Council. In particular, with the unpopularity of the Babiš government, the PDS came out the largest party with just 23% of the vote and were only 2% ahead of the similarly parlous ČSSD, with ZaP and the ČSS taking over 40% of the vote between them, almost as much as the two traditional major parties combined.

ZaP leader Ivan Bartoš managed to convince his party to support a centre-left coalition due to the hostility of PDS leader Jiří Pospíšil, and so the ČSSD’s Jan Hamáček became Bohemian Prime Minister. Hamáček initially fared well as PM, but his relationship with President Zeman declined towards the end of the latter’s term, especially as Zeman became more avowedly socially conservative and endorsed the controversial populist artist František Ringo Čech to succeed him. The killing blow for his leadership, however, was when it was alleged in 2021 that he had contacted the Russian government to request vaccines be provided to Czechoslovakia.

Hamáček denied the allegation, but public protests followed and his government was forced to resign. ZaP were favoured to take over running the government, but Bartoš wished to focus on federal politics and so one of his deputies, Matej Stropnický, was tasked with forming a grand coalition. This proved more feasible than it seemed- the ČSSD were hamstrung by relative closeness to ZaP ideologically and the recent allegations tainting them, while Stropnický’s father Martin was able to convince his party to support the new government.

Stropnický’s ascent was widely seen as a beginning to the ‘Pirate wave’ in contemporary Czechoslovak politics. Not only was he the first person associated with a pirate party to lead a government on the level of the National Council, but as a young, liberal-leaning gay man (and so also the first LGBTQ person at such a level of government in Czechoslovakia) who was personally liked by voters, he cut a very different figure to the average Czechoslovak politician.

There had been something of a lull in Stropnický’s popularity during late 2021 to early 2022 as the right began to shift its focus away from his politics and identity and towards allegations of nepotism through his closeness to his father, but by the time the election came around that July things had changed. ZaP had taken control of the federal government after a limp-wristed response to the Russian invasion of Ukraine by the PDS Prime Minister Alena Schillerová, and the attempt of the PDS’s Pavel Fischer to chart a more conservative course for the party led to divisions within it.

The 2022 election would prove to be even more fractious than 2018- ZaP made gains to become the largest party (foreshadowing their 2023 success at the federal level), while the ČSSD declined slightly and the PDS split, with the anti-Fischer faction led by Petr Pavel (christened the Forward Party, VS) making gains at their expense. Stropnický formed a new coalition backed by the VS and ČSNS, which improved its seat count thanks to its leader Michal Šimečka voicing a vocally pro-Ukraine and anti-corruption stance on the party’s behalf.

A couple of notes on the electoral system: Bohemia has a mixed-member system where 120 seats are distributed across the regions by population with regional party lists, and a further 30 are elected to the national constituency based on the total vote tallies after all votes have been counted. Since this district is elected by raw percentage with no threshold, the national constituency is often a good opportunity for smaller parties to gain seats, though at the 2022 election only the eight parties that won districts won seats in the national constituency since they took 99.3% of the vote between them.

One other little quirk is that there is a slight majoritarian element added by the districts of each region- if a party wins a plurality of votes in any district, their vote gets bumped up in priority to ensure they win at least one seat in the region beyond what they would be entitled to based on their voteshare. For example, in Plzeň the ČSSD outpolled the DSS, but since the DSS won the most votes in Tachov district, they won two seats when they would normally be entitled to only one.

(And before anyone says, yes I know all of Vysočina being in Bohemia doesn't make much sense, but I used the current-day regions in all the prior maps in this TL so for consistency's sake let's just say when the Czech National Council split Bohemia took that whole region as a compromise for Moravia-Silesia splitting off.)
 
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