Weekly Flag Challenge: Discussion & Entries
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Thanks. Some US Socialist posters from the early 20th century used the "hand of liberty holding a torch" motif, which is what inspired this. It seemed rather "New York, yet Socialist, yet American".
EDIT: I just realized the hammer was backwards. Let this be my real entry.
The Commune of New York, proclaimed in 1934:
Alright, I know I didn't post it before 12:00, but I made this flag along time ago, and you can find it in the Flag Thread.
Flag of the People's Republic of Japan
Flag of the People's Republic of Japan
Did I miss the damn deadline again????? 
[EDIT] I see that I made it. Thanks, AM.
Heads up: Flags 3 and 12 are by the same user.
[EDIT] I see that I made it. Thanks, AM.
Heads up: Flags 3 and 12 are by the same user.
Did I miss the damn deadline again?????
[EDIT] I see that I made it. Thanks, AM.
Heads up: Flags 3 and 12 are by the same user.
*Bangs head on table*
Okay... I'll think of something.
AM:
Did you intend for the poll to close so soon?
Yes. I had a feeling that there was going to be a tie, so Im going to make a part 2 voting thread.
If you say so. However, we've had co-winners before, but have not had a runoff. Also, your 1st poll was only open for one day. The poll is supposed to be open for several days. This is highly irregular.
I realize that. I screwed up and put 1 day instead of 2, and it just sort of went down hill from there
For all future round winners: the contest is supposed to be open for entries for 4 days from the challenge posting, followed by 3 days of voting. Voting should be on anonymous flags (post the image and any description, but not the creator's name).
We now have two precedents for a tie vote - joint-winners who then collaborate on a new challenge, and a run-off vote. I guess it'll be up to the challenge-poster to decide which route to go.
I suppose we'll need to repost these guidelines every once in awhile...
We now have two precedents for a tie vote - joint-winners who then collaborate on a new challenge, and a run-off vote. I guess it'll be up to the challenge-poster to decide which route to go.
I suppose we'll need to repost these guidelines every once in awhile...
I honestly feel bad about the whole screw up. So, instead of creating a new contest, I would like ah-sue to go ahead and create a new challenge. I will pronounce her the winner.
Thande
Donor
Apart for giving examples showing that 'Sowjet' was in use in Germany from at least 1919, my important point is that the title on the map to which Norton objected is in English, as with all the nation names. Do people object to English language maps on which Deutschland or Deutsches Reich are labelled Germany or German Empire?
Clearly, I must remember not to talk about das hobby, der pullover or der cocktail on this board
Not to mention the Bavarian Soviet Republic, which actually predates the USSR...
Well, you beat me 18-12 in the runoff, so I find it odd to be the winner.
Let's say -
You put together a new challenge within the next 24 hours, failing which I'll create one. (Apart from fairness, I'm shortly going for a medical appointment and really wouldn't be able to do anything until tomorrow!)
Well, to tell the truth, I'm drawing a blank right now, so what ever you want to do is fine with me.
I do remember a few polls back doing two flags for a split OTL country, maybe we could do a flag contest where two OTL countries become one country at some point?
Just throwing out an idea here.
OK, here’s my flag challenge. It’s based on something my grandfather told my father arising from his wartime experience. The story is that in the final year or so of World War 2 an odd idea arose, viz. to create a largish ‘buffer state’ between France and Germany after the war. The thinking was that with 3 wars (Franco-Prussian, WW1 and WW2) within 70 years raging in the French/German areas, with the failure of the Maginot Line and the realisation that declared neutrality wasn’t of much use to the Netherlands, Belgium and Luxembourg, perhaps the creation of a fairly substantial ‘new’ nation could be a better option for the maintenance of peace. This idea originated among the British but found favourable interest in certain American quarters.
To the Netherlands, Belgium and Luxembourg would be added a slice of pre-war Germany plus Alsace-Lorraine (see attached map). De Gaulle would be furious at any such suggestion, but it seems that the Americans in particular were more than a bit fed up with the General and his followers. The working name of Lotharingia was given to this theoretical nation, arising from the name of the country created from the break up of Charlemagne’s Empire though, of course, not following the various borders of that country.
My father told me about this just after I read a review of a Dennis Wheatley book, ‘Stranger Than Fiction’, in which the author recounts his wartime experiences in British Intelligence – the book mentions this idea/proposal. I’ve never tracked down a copy of the book but when I mentioned it to Dad he told me what his father had told him.
So the challenge – design a flag for a nation that never saw the light of day, Lotharingia … and feel free to suggest a different name!
To the Netherlands, Belgium and Luxembourg would be added a slice of pre-war Germany plus Alsace-Lorraine (see attached map). De Gaulle would be furious at any such suggestion, but it seems that the Americans in particular were more than a bit fed up with the General and his followers. The working name of Lotharingia was given to this theoretical nation, arising from the name of the country created from the break up of Charlemagne’s Empire though, of course, not following the various borders of that country.
My father told me about this just after I read a review of a Dennis Wheatley book, ‘Stranger Than Fiction’, in which the author recounts his wartime experiences in British Intelligence – the book mentions this idea/proposal. I’ve never tracked down a copy of the book but when I mentioned it to Dad he told me what his father had told him.
So the challenge – design a flag for a nation that never saw the light of day, Lotharingia … and feel free to suggest a different name!
Ah-Sue, please post your challenge in the appropriate thread so everyone can find it properly: https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?p=3326331#post3326331
And so there's no confusion, according to contest rules the challenge should close for new entries on May 23rd, four days from the posting.
Nice idea though...
United Provinces of Central Europe
Following the German surrender to the Americans in Berlin in 1945, with the Anglo-American allies thoroughly dissatisfied regarding the conduct of the two continental powers, the area of the soon-to-be UPCE (a misnomer yes, though when the name and flag were adopted the area beyond the Iron Curtain was deemed outside of 'Europe') were set aside and a new sovereign state was created. Modelled on the United Provinces of the Netherlands, the constituent regions enjoy considerable autonomy, with the federal level of government having responsibility for Currency and Treasury, International Relations and Trade, and Defense.
The flag was adopted in 1951 after a nation-wide contest and referendum. The traditional colours and tri-colour pattern were generally rejected by designers. The symbol of the lion from many of the regions included (Netherlands, Belgium, Lotharingia of the past, etc.) was kept however, reworked so the king-of-beasts is in a defensive yet vigilant posture, looking out over the borders (the fly).
The UPCE remains an irritant to France and Germany, a staunch ally of Britain and America, and a vibrant, multi-cultural society.
Following the German surrender to the Americans in Berlin in 1945, with the Anglo-American allies thoroughly dissatisfied regarding the conduct of the two continental powers, the area of the soon-to-be UPCE (a misnomer yes, though when the name and flag were adopted the area beyond the Iron Curtain was deemed outside of 'Europe') were set aside and a new sovereign state was created. Modelled on the United Provinces of the Netherlands, the constituent regions enjoy considerable autonomy, with the federal level of government having responsibility for Currency and Treasury, International Relations and Trade, and Defense.
The flag was adopted in 1951 after a nation-wide contest and referendum. The traditional colours and tri-colour pattern were generally rejected by designers. The symbol of the lion from many of the regions included (Netherlands, Belgium, Lotharingia of the past, etc.) was kept however, reworked so the king-of-beasts is in a defensive yet vigilant posture, looking out over the borders (the fly).
The UPCE remains an irritant to France and Germany, a staunch ally of Britain and America, and a vibrant, multi-cultural society.
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In relation to the new challange, can someone who speaks dutch help me translate a few phrases so i can put on on the flag i'm making? I don't trust google translate
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