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  1. A Superpower Qing Dynasty: Dulimbai Gurun in 2024
    Threadmarks: The Ninth Lunar New Year Festival of the Current Era as covered by the BBC:

    Before We Begin, Please Rise for the National Anthem of the Great Qing: The Ninth Lunar New Year Festival of the Current Era as covered by the BBC: CARRIE: Over two billion people around the world are welcoming in the Year of the Dragon as the Chinese Lunar New Year celebrations begin. This...
  2. WI: Cixi Died during the Boxer Rebellion (1900)

    When the army of the Eight Nations Alliance captured Peking in 1900, Dowager Cixi and Emperor Guangxu disguised themselves as peasants and fled to Xi'an. A random thought occurred to me -- what if Cixi had killed herself like the Chongzhen Emperor of Ming when the city fell? (European soldiers...
  3. Eastern Oriented Russia

    what if Russia fashioned itself towards the Qing & Joseon, perhaps if they won against the Qing during their border skirmishes, and successfully Russified the entirety of the Amur Basin / Manchuria
  4. Another “cosmopolitan” Chinese dynasty?

    The Tang dynasty is often called “cosmopolitan” due to its openness to trade, new ideas, expansionism, embrace of Buddhism, etc. The Song dynasty was also another period where trade was a major focus in Chinese civilization. During the Yongle Emperor’s reign, this too was obviously an applicable...
  5. Coqui

    Less Russian Siberia?

    I'm thinking a Time of Troubles PoD. Suppose it results in a weaker, conquered, or more westward looking Russia; what do you think might happen to Siberia? I heard something about an indigenous uprising during the time of troubles, but Russian troops were ultimately able to put them down. If...
  6. Onedotman

    天國春秋 - Spring and Autumn of the Heavenly Kingdom
    Threadmarks: 天王開國 - Founding of the Heavenly Kingdom

    Portrait of Hong Renkun. Hong Huoxiu (洪火秀), courtesy name Renkun (仁坤) was born in 1814 to a well-off Hakka family in Guangdong. From an early age, Hong had developed a special interest in scholarship; for this reason, his family had to made financial sacrifices to ensure that he had a decent...
  7. What might a post-Qing Chinese dynasty have looked like?

    The Qing dynasty was one of the most iconic in Chinese history, and also the last. While there was a short-lived attempt by Yuan Shikai to make himself emperor and an even shorter-lived attempt to restore the Qing to power, China has been a republic for the past century, and even if the People's...
  8. GameBawesome

    WI: No Nurhaci

    Nurhaci was a Jurchen Leader of the Aisin-Goro Clan, who was instrumental in the unification of the Jurchen Tribes, that would lay the foundation for the eventually Qing Dynasty, the largest and final Chinese Imperial Dynasty. So, what if Nurhaci, the founder of the Later Jin Dynasty and...
  9. SealTheRealDeal

    What happens to Xinjiang, Mongolia, and Manchuria in event of the Qing failing to conquer China

    Let's say the Qing/Later Jin are defeated by one of the Chinese factions during the fall of the Ming Dynasty (Shun, Xi, Southern Ming), and we'll say it's a very costly defeat with multiple banner armies wiped out entirely. What is the likely outcome for the areas imediately north of China? Are...
  10. ahmed1ghoneim

    DBWI: Cixi lived longer

    What if Empress Dowager Cixi lived longer? Historians describe Cixi as the cause of almost the misery and collapse of China in the late nineteenth century and was the leader of the conservative faction in the Qing dynasty, but fortunately or misfortune, according to whom you ask, she died in...
  11. WI: A Russian Tsar claims the Mandate of Heaven

    Ok, before you laugh and dismiss the idea as pure insanity, is there any way for a Russian tsar to somehow take enough of China to be considered, even if only by some of the population, to possess the mandate of heaven? Maybe the Manchu are never able to fully unite China, leaving it split...
  12. AHC: A significantly smaller Qing empire

    Nothing says the territory controlled by the Qing dynasty necessarily had to get extensive as it did, at least AFAIK. Your challenge is to have the Qing empire consist solely of Manchuria, China proper, and Inner Mongolia.
  13. Linbot

    Meticulous Dawn - A Revolt of the Three Feudatories Timeline
    Threadmarks: Chapter 1 - Prologue

    Hello! This is a timeline I’ve decided to write, based on the fundamental premise that the Revolt of the Three Feudatories, a rebellion of regional militarists that broke out against the early Qing dynasty in the 1670s and nearly toppled them, succeeded. I want to explore how exactly that could...
  14. 1900 Industrialized China population and mobilization capacity

    How much population an Industrialized China would have without 19th century rebellions and how many soldiers can it mobilize? Industrialized= large Heavy industry, No serfdom, Mechanized agriculture, market economy , large and dense railway, high light industry consumption
  15. PolishMagnet

    How would Chinese language have developed if the Qing Dynasty had maintained power

    I think some simplification of the written language would have occurred, much like in Japan with the Kyuujitai, but would they have done some things differently? How would the spoken and written standards develop? The Qing Dynasty used a koiné as far as I know called "Guanhua" 官话 frequently...
  16. WI Toyotomi Hideoyoshi dies in 1592/No Imjin War. Delayed Japanese invasion of Korea/China coincides with Collapse of Ming

    WI Toyotomi Hideoyoshi dies in 1592, without a male heir and his far more capable nephew Toyotomi Hidetsugu becomes the next Imperial Regent. The Imjin War doesn't happen in this time frame, thus the Toyotomi aren't weakened, they don't a have child ruler, and Tokugawa Ieyasu has no...
  17. How Could China Modernize In The Late 1800s?

    So I wanna make a scenario in which China modernizes in the late 1800s, industrializes over time, becomes the greatest economy on Earth, then goes on to dominate Asia going into the 1940s. How can I make this modernization, like a Chinese Meiji Restoration, happen? Could some kind of “Oh shit we...
  18. Osman Aga

    WI: India under the Mughals remains as united as China is under the Qing

    As the title states. India remains largely united and the Mughal Emperors and do not crumble and lose to the Marathas and Persians. One thing I am certain is that the EIC would not actually try to conquer Bengal if it belongs to one state. But there are still some questionable scenarios... 1...
  19. Anhui vs Zhili China

    I've been playing with different ways in which a Central Powers victory might affect China, and one thing that is clear is that, without Soviet backing, the Kuomintang and CCP will not become nearly as prominent as they did in OTL. In fact, the Northern Expedition might be averted, as there...
  20. AHC: Qing North and Buddhist South China

    This one might need a little imagination. By 1950, how can we get a Russia backed north Chinese Qing monarchy and a India backed south Chinese Buddhist theocracy. Bonus if both are totalitarian states. The pod can be early as needed for this to happen.
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