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  1. AHC: Qing North and Buddhist South China

    This one might need a little imagination. By 1950, how can we get a Russia backed north Chinese Qing monarchy and a India backed south Chinese Buddhist theocracy. Bonus if both are totalitarian states. The pod can be early as needed for this to happen.
  2. GameBawesome

    Cultural Effects of No Qing Dynasty, and surviving Han-Ethnic Dynasty

    China is a very large and historical nation. Since ancient times, they've been a cultural trend setter, cultural influencing countries such as Korea, Japan, and Vietnam. When the Qing Dynasty rose to power, it saw a new era of Chinese Culture. The Manchu brought certain styles that were required...
  3. kasumigenx

    DBWI: Empire of Japan and United States survive instead of Qing China and Tsarist Russia?

    From what I had heard since the US supported the independence of the Tagalog Republic and Cuba in 1898, the two became independent countries, the USA transformed into USSA and the Empire of Japan became Peoples Republic of Japan. Qing China and Tsarist Russia are considered the leaders of the...
  4. GameBawesome

    Did the Manchus change Chinese Culture?

    What I find interesting about the perception of Traditional Chinese Culture, is that many things people view as Chinese isn’t originally Chinese. Like how the Cheongsam, the changshan, and the Queue hairstyle, isn’t originally Chinese, those things were Manchu, which were brought because of the...
  5. GameBawesome

    WI: Chongzhen Emperor accepts Li Zicheng's offer

    In 1644, Li Zicheng made an offer to the Chongzhen Emperor would fight the Qing dynasty and eradicate all other rebels on behalf of the Ming, if the Ming dynasty would recognize Li Zicheng's control over his Shaanxi-Shanxi fief, pay him 1 million taels and confirm Li Zicheng's noble rank of...
  6. GameBawesome

    DBWI: Southern Ming falls

    What if the Southern Ming, which controls Southern China, from it’s capital of Fuzhou, collapsed? What if the Qing Dynasty hadn’t failed in conquering the South? How would a unified China stand in the 17th-19th century?
  7. GameBawesome

    WI: 1648- The Second Three Kingdoms Period- China split into three Dynasties

    What if, in the 1640s, instead the Qing steamrolling over all of China, what if instead, the Qing were unable to conquer the rest of China, with a more stable and competent Southern Ming, and more powerful Shun Dynasty, which defeats Zhang Xianzhong, and conquers Sichuan and Tibet. By the End...
  8. AltoRegnant

    Could A New Dynasty Come To Power In China?

    Is there anyway a native han warlord could unite all china and claim the mandate of heaven after the qing collapse? And not as a Japanese puppet, please.
  9. Michael_I

    Dragon Over Asia; A Timeline
    Threadmarks: Part 1-Humble Origins

    “When a country is well governed, poverty and a mean condition are things to be ashamed of. When a country is ill governed, riches and honour are things to be ashamed of.” -Confucius “Why are the Western nations small and yet strong? Why are we large and yet weak? We must search for the means to...
  10. Michael_I

    The Empire Of Heaven; Dragon Over Asia

    I was considering making this a formal timeline post rather than a discussion/debate, but due to my lack of knowledge of the later Qing empire and asian politics at the time, I chose accordingly. To the point: What could've happened to save the Qing Empire? When? How? How would this ripple out...
  11. Who would Qing Dynasty sided with in the Cold War?

    As the title says, which blocs would the Qing Dynasty sided with - USA and NATO or Soviet Union and Eastern bloc, or Qing China goes their own way and founded it's own non-aligned bloc? This is a scenario where the Qing Dynasty China succeeded in Hundred Days Reform, a Chinese Meiji-style...
  12. kasumigenx

    DBWI: Qing gets ousted

    What if Guangxu restoration fails and Japan does not turn into a Socialist and later Social Democrat country like Finalnd, as I remember Japan is the first country to make same-sex marriage legal in Asia would this be the case if Qing gets ousted and Japan remains a constitutional monarchy...
  13. GauchoBadger

    WI: Ili Crisis (1880) escalates into war between Qing China and Russia?

    IOTL, after the defeat of the Dungan Revolt in the late 1860's, Qing China was in the process of reoccupying Xinjiang. One surprisingly stretched incident (lasting 9 to 10 years) was the Russian occupation of the Ili River region in western Xinjiang, serving to secure Russia's foothold in...
  14. Best case scenario for 19th century Qing Dynasty

    Like the title says, what would be the best case scenario for the Qing Dynasty in the 19th century? China under the times of Early Qing were at the most powerful at their zenith under Kangxi, Yongzheng and Qianlong. After Qianlong, Qing China is no longer the great empire it once used to be and...
  15. WI Pope Clement XI authorized Chinese rites?

    In other words: what if the 17th century Chinese Rites controversy went the other way? The big issues apparently were: the correct Chinese terminology for "God," the practice of Confucian seasonal rituals, and the practice of offering incense in veneration of dead ancestors. Suppose the...
  16. Gukpard

    If Qing China Joins the central powers, would the great war end sooner or later than otl?

    The PoD is that Dowager Cixi kicks the bucket earlier, and the Guangxu emperor clings to power all the way until 1914. The state of the Qing is up to you, but it is completely necessary for the empire exists and join the central powers with the promise to gain Hong Kong and the restoration of...
  17. AHC: Wank the Qing dynasty with a minimun starting date of 1900

    Can it be done?
  18. Han Dynasty after Qing

    Would it have been possible for a Han Chinese dynasty to replace the Qing in the late 19th or early 20th Century? If so, what might it be called? Could it have more luck modernising? Related, would it be possible for a North/South split to occur at the same time? With the new dynasty in the...
  19. With a POD no earlier than 1600, what is the lowest population China can have by today?

    As a rule, China must end up controlling all of the territories which are Han-majority today. I would prefer if this was accomplished through early demographic transition, though I am open to all scenarios.
  20. ArchimedesCircle

    AHC: Independent Manchuria

    I wasn't sure if I should post this here, or in the pre-1900 section since it kind of straddles the timeframe. I decided that since part of it goes after 1900 I should just put it here. Your challenge is to create an independent Manchuria with a PoD no earlier than the First Opium War (1839)...
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