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Yes. Though more "producing" than cloning. Basically they switched to wholly artificial and scalable reproduction via vats to combat depopulation and infertility, which later became a "gateway drug" leading to transhumanism.

Dominating their neighbors technologically, economically, and demographically.

Yes.

By the time it happened it was almost 200 years since the collapse of Yugoslavia, so the mutual hatred between Serbs and Croats mostly subsided. And a common enemy (Turkey and its puppets) tends to unite.

Thanks for the praise. I'm not on Reddit, but you (or anyone) can post it there if you want.

Germany in 2064 is like a turbo-libleft rogue state. In the turbulent 2040s various populists were taking power all over the West. In most countries it was right-wingers who held it, but in Germany it happened to be "SJW" type leftists. By 2082 their regime collapsed and Germany became ~center-right like the rest of Europe.

Yes.



After the flare killed most of Scandinavia's population people became superstitious of technology. This and the memory of the 2300s war combined to form this consensus in culture that progress is bad and leads to all kinds of catastrophies. Humanity was sort of "traumatized". Any attempts to reinvent stuff would bring forth the tales of death and destruction. This seeped into major religions, and boom - progress is basically taboo for thousands of years.
And between the last three frames there was several unrelated (mostly climatic) collapses that just kind of nailed the coffin of civilization, at least in Europe.
(But mostly I just wanted there to be a "cyclical" theme, like everything would return to more or less where it started).
Did you just use SJW in a non ironic manner?

Don't do that.
 
A transit map for Rochester, New York, in a timeline where the subway line survived until the 1970s and was expanded.

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The Malaya-Sunda Land Bridge
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The Malaya-Sunda Land Bridge, also known as the Great Land Bridge or the Pan-Nusantara Line, is an ongoing joint infrastructure project by the Lakanate of Panyupayana, The Sultanate of United Sumatra, the Republic of Japan (former), Germany, Burgundy, the United Kingdom, and China. The Project's goal is to connect the Malay Peninsula to the Islands of Sumatra, Java, and the Lesser Sunda as part of Panyupayana and Nusantara's goal to politically and "physically" connect the majority of the Major Islands of the Nusantaran and Panyupayanan Archipelago. The Project was first proposed in 1966 by Panyupayanan Prime Minister Apo Lakay and spearheaded by Ministry of Public Works and Highways. The project was then signed the following year by Apo Lakay, the newly-elected Nusantaran Prime Minister Koesno Hatta, and several other organizations such as the Japanese National Railways, the West German Bundesbahn, and the Burgundian-Dutch Ministry of Infrastructure and Water Management.

The Project was originally set to begin on August 1973, but was postponed indefinitely due to expensive oil prices when the First Gulf War erupted between the United Arab Republics and the Persian Empire. Attempts to start work the following years were delayed due to budgetary reasons until finally in March 1977, a year after the unification of Panyupayana and Nusantara into the Federation of Austronesia, that work began with the expansions of the Pan-Sumatran lines and the Malayu National Rail. This also involves widening the existing railways to accommodate High Speed Trains such as Panyupayana's experimental version of Japan's Shinkansen 0 series Trains. On 1981, work began on the expansion of Java's existing rail network as well as the Riau-Lingga Land Bridge, which connected the Malay Peninsulu and Sumatra through Singapore and the Riau Islands. In 1987, work also began on the construction of the Southern Nusantara National Rail, but on 1991 nearly all constructions on the Southern rail stopped when the Economic bubble of Austronesia and Japan burst, leading to Asian Financial Crisis and the lost decade. All of Japan's investments on the project were pulled out, and the project was once again left postponed indefinitely until 2000 when the Austronesian Government ordered the continuation of the construction of the Trans-Java Bridge, the Riau-Lingga Land Bridge, and the Bangka Bridge, albeit the progress was slow as Austronesia was still recovering from its near-total economic collapse. In 2008, a new cooperation was signed between Austronesia and the Chinese Federation, which led to work on the bridges returning back to its normal pace in the 1980s. On September 2010. the Riau-Lingga Land Bridge is officially opened to the public, taking the title of the longest bridge in the entire world. This is then followed by the opening of the Trans-Java Bridge in the following year, and the Bangka Bridge on April 2013. On 2016, Work was continued on the Southern Nusantara National Rail, with the Bali Metro being completed first in January 2017 as it was the closest one to completion. As of today the Mataram-Bima line is at 89% completion, but rising tensions between Austronesia and Japan forced work to temporarily stop indefinitely once more.
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@Vonga-vonga please don't use "SJW" as an insult, it's a term that racist and sexist trolls use to belittle anyone trying to take a stand against these evils. We should not be adopting the language of bigots.
They didn't, though. They put it in quotations marks and said type after, implying that this is just a crutch for us to understand that Germany's politics. They passed no judgement.
 
I saw they annexed North Africa(?) after climate change caused the local states to collapse
Pretty much what Gokbay said. It was more of a migration and replacement than annexation.
What about Asia and North America?

How about the aliens?

What about 6000 to 8000 AD?
Asia and Americas weren't the focus here, so I didn't think much about them. I only imagine that the US briefly went into isolation around 2040s, helped to defeat Russia in 2064 and burned with the rest of developed humanity in the war of 2300.
Aliens either don't exist in this world, or at least don't have FTL.
And after 5000 AD cultures would be so different that I'd be just making them up from scratch. That wouldn't be that interesting imho.
Did you just use SJW in a non ironic manner?
I didn't. Hohensaufen already pointed out why.
 
Hey guys, I'm new here, and I figured I would post my Ocean ISOTs here, starting with the Atlantics. I split them into two to make it more interesting.

North Atlantic:

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After The Great Transport, the United States and Canada were actually pretty okay to say the least. However, they were not without their problems. The loss of their Pacific Coasts had a huge Impact on them, as well as Canada having lost its coasts to the Arctic and Hudson. In the Ensuing quest to regain access to the Pacific, Texas broke free, taking New Mexico along with them. The Inuits stuck in the South of Baffin Island ended up declaring their independence from Ottawa as well due to their newfound isolation, and Quebec tried to split from the Confederation as well. Quebec was eventually given a helping of autonomy while Ottawa left Iqaluit to their own devices. The new country of Columbia was made out of a compromise between Ottawa and Washington D.C.

South of the Rio Grande River, What was left of Mexico after the Event was divided into Two. The northern States split off from the rest of the Country as the Rio Grande Republic, seated in Monterey and named after the River that gave its border with Texas. Meanwhile, the Southern States rebranded themselves as the Federal Republic of South Mexico. The other Central American states had a similar problem, with all of them apart from Belize having lost their pacific coasts. Guatemala was divided into two - Petén and Izabel. While Florés ended up falling under Meridá’s wing, Puerto Barrios saw itself as the new successor for Guatemala City and thus strayed from Meridá’s influence. With Managua gone, the Mosquito Coast found itself independent again, while what remained of Costa Rica and Panama, crippled without their capital cities, united as the Centroamerican Republic and gave the Panama Canal Zone (which had lost its southern half) back to the U.S. for rebuilding.

In South America, Venezuela emerged as the regional power, sending settlers to Colonise the banks of the Meta and Guaviare Rivers, while some followed the Branco and Orinoco Rivers to settle alongside the banks of the great Amazon River and restart its agriculture production, much to Barranquilla and Macapá’s chagrin. Being what was left of Colombia and Brazil respectively, they took it upon themselves to resettle their lost lands. Barranquilla ordered the resettling to the Magdalena River valley and the Cordilleras, while Amapa eventually got contacts from the Naval Base at São Pedro and São Paulo as the two Brazilian Remnants got out to resettle the big country, even going as far as to Cross the Atlantic to establish a colony on the banks of the Congo River and bringing São Tomé under its wing.

Speaking of Africa, the loss of foreign support caused many nations to collapse. Well, not really, since there was foreign support, but it still had lots of problems. The Tuaregs took this opportunity to rebel against Bamako, Algiers, Niamey, N’Djamena and Tripoli, Western Togoland and Ambazonia broke off from Ghana and Cameroon, and Gambia, Sierra Leone and Guinea-Bissau fell under European Influence. Egypt, on the other hand, was doing well now that it had resettled its Red Sea coast and now controlled the entire Nile. The Upper Nile areas were given autonomy on request from the locals and Sudanese refugees who wanted to resettle their homeland. Meanwhile, Darfuri refugees had also come from Chad and resettle their homeland, and far south to the cape, the Cape Territory was reestablished by disgruntled Brits who were jealous that everyone else managed to expand.

Back in Europe, they were more concerned with the fact that Russia had finished managing to conquer Ukraine even without most of its territory. NATO meetings occurred regularly, as all their members were still there, and their most debated topic was how to combat the growing Russian threat. Outside of meetings, Norway only managed to resettle a small part of its lost territories before Sweden, Finland and Iceland got their shares, while Denmark eventually gave up trying to reclaim Greenland after realising they had to share it with Iceland and Norway. Finland also managed to get hold of the Kola Peninsula in an effort to hamper Russian expansion, however on the grand scale of things that was only a minor setback as Moscow turned to the east. They also managed to get Georgia under its wing, forcing it to give Abkhazia and South Ossetia to it, while Batumi, not wanting to suffer the fate that befell Tbilisi, gave itself to Turkey. Meanwhile, in the Eurasian Steppe, Free Russia was established by those who weren’t a fan of Putinism.

In the Middle East, Turkey tried its best to Hamper Russian expansion, but ended up getting drawn to the Mesopotamian rivers instead. This caused loads of Syrian refugees to flock into their territory, and so Turkey decided to give them a refugee state in the Gulf. In the Red Sea, Israel agreed to support the creation of Palestinian state in Hejaz, while other muslims got around to rebuilding Mecca.

South Atlantic:

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The years following The Great Transport were long and tough for South America. Argentina and Brazil emerged as the main powers, with a huge rivalry between the two. While both got to the Pacific coasts rather easily, what they did was rather different. Argentina went even further from their coastlines to claim the Easter Islands, Pitcairn Islands and even the Gambier Islands, while Brazil consolidated their claims over the Caribbean sea, even building a canal in the Isthmus of Tehuantepec. Meanwhile, Paraguay got hold of the Entire virgin Chaco immediately after. Across the Atlantic, while Brasilia settled on African capes, forged friendships with fellow lusophone Angola and even started colonizing their former colonizer, Argentina saw their biggest prize across the Argentine Sea: a chance to finally make the saying “Las Malvinas son Argentinas” a reality. Without the British government to help them, Buenos Aires mobilised its navy and immediately took over the Falklands, complete with a victory speech at Puerto Argentino.

The aftermath of the 2nd Falkland War sent shivers down the remaining British Territories. Not wanting to get swamped by Latinos and share the same fate as Stanley, Jamestown and King Edward Point decided to put themselves under the sovereignty of fellow Anglophone nation South Africa, now being run from the parliament located in Cape Town. They would try to pitch ideas on how they would try to retake the Falklands, as well as expanding their sphere of influence. Speaking of which, South Africa did that by resettling the east and Establishing colonies on Madagascar in a competition against Angola for Regional Dominance. Angola managed to colonize the Zambezi river valley as a coast to the Indian Ocean and is currently in a race with South Africa over who can colonize Madagascar the most. While this African Cold War did lead to a few scuffles, It was nothing compared to the utter mess that was once called the Democratic Republic of the Congo. Long story short: It exploded. To be more elaborative, without foreign aid, the DRC collapsed into civil war, with the two sides based in Kinshasa and Kisangani fighting each other while Ituri and Kivu insurgencies raged on. The Congolese chaos gave Katanga its much wanted chance to break free, and it ended up forging good relations with Luanda, which decided to do a little trolling and moved its troops to occupy Kinshasa’s coastal regions, effectively making it landlocked and worsening the situation. What was happening south of the Ubangi River gave Bangui a pretty bad warning if it didn’t try to change, and so they gave the muslim areas in the North autonomy to build their Empire in peace. Meanwhile, the 5,314 Equatoguineans in Annobon weren’t happy that Gabon took their mainland, but could make up for it by finding another oil source in the Niger river Delta.
 
Hey guys, I'm new here, and I figured I would post my Ocean ISOTs here, starting with the Atlantics. I split them into two to make it more interesting.

North Atlantic:

xwkN28eDPyPfPUYNJKtmCTfohAO8vls0buezu3AoWX4JGwTmtcD1gEiQ7Eq3xAFnATSX-bJJ3ark-cAPTDRaSi3n9QN3jrwjzvV9asZaUFFim_wUW4G24i65LhEW66KitkKoxjdybMcQb-b5aA


After The Great Transport, the United States and Canada were actually pretty okay to say the least. However, they were not without their problems. The loss of their Pacific Coasts had a huge Impact on them, as well as Canada having lost its coasts to the Arctic and Hudson. In the Ensuing quest to regain access to the Pacific, Texas broke free, taking New Mexico along with them. The Inuits stuck in the South of Baffin Island ended up declaring their independence from Ottawa as well due to their newfound isolation, and Quebec tried to split from the Confederation as well. Quebec was eventually given a helping of autonomy while Ottawa left Iqaluit to their own devices. The new country of Columbia was made out of a compromise between Ottawa and Washington D.C.

South of the Rio Grande River, What was left of Mexico after the Event was divided into Two. The northern States split off from the rest of the Country as the Rio Grande Republic, seated in Monterey and named after the River that gave its border with Texas. Meanwhile, the Southern States rebranded themselves as the Federal Republic of South Mexico. The other Central American states had a similar problem, with all of them apart from Belize having lost their pacific coasts. Guatemala was divided into two - Petén and Izabel. While Florés ended up falling under Meridá’s wing, Puerto Barrios saw itself as the new successor for Guatemala City and thus strayed from Meridá’s influence. With Managua gone, the Mosquito Coast found itself independent again, while what remained of Costa Rica and Panama, crippled without their capital cities, united as the Centroamerican Republic and gave the Panama Canal Zone (which had lost its southern half) back to the U.S. for rebuilding.

In South America, Venezuela emerged as the regional power, sending settlers to Colonise the banks of the Meta and Guaviare Rivers, while some followed the Branco and Orinoco Rivers to settle alongside the banks of the great Amazon River and restart its agriculture production, much to Barranquilla and Macapá’s chagrin. Being what was left of Colombia and Brazil respectively, they took it upon themselves to resettle their lost lands. Barranquilla ordered the resettling to the Magdalena River valley and the Cordilleras, while Amapa eventually got contacts from the Naval Base at São Pedro and São Paulo as the two Brazilian Remnants got out to resettle the big country, even going as far as to Cross the Atlantic to establish a colony on the banks of the Congo River and bringing São Tomé under its wing.

Speaking of Africa, the loss of foreign support caused many nations to collapse. Well, not really, since there was foreign support, but it still had lots of problems. The Tuaregs took this opportunity to rebel against Bamako, Algiers, Niamey, N’Djamena and Tripoli, Western Togoland and Ambazonia broke off from Ghana and Cameroon, and Gambia, Sierra Leone and Guinea-Bissau fell under European Influence. Egypt, on the other hand, was doing well now that it had resettled its Red Sea coast and now controlled the entire Nile. The Upper Nile areas were given autonomy on request from the locals and Sudanese refugees who wanted to resettle their homeland. Meanwhile, Darfuri refugees had also come from Chad and resettle their homeland, and far south to the cape, the Cape Territory was reestablished by disgruntled Brits who were jealous that everyone else managed to expand.

Back in Europe, they were more concerned with the fact that Russia had finished managing to conquer Ukraine even without most of its territory. NATO meetings occurred regularly, as all their members were still there, and their most debated topic was how to combat the growing Russian threat. Outside of meetings, Norway only managed to resettle a small part of its lost territories before Sweden, Finland and Iceland got their shares, while Denmark eventually gave up trying to reclaim Greenland after realising they had to share it with Iceland and Norway. Finland also managed to get hold of the Kola Peninsula in an effort to hamper Russian expansion, however on the grand scale of things that was only a minor setback as Moscow turned to the east. They also managed to get Georgia under its wing, forcing it to give Abkhazia and South Ossetia to it, while Batumi, not wanting to suffer the fate that befell Tbilisi, gave itself to Turkey. Meanwhile, in the Eurasian Steppe, Free Russia was established by those who weren’t a fan of Putinism.

In the Middle East, Turkey tried its best to Hamper Russian expansion, but ended up getting drawn to the Mesopotamian rivers instead. This caused loads of Syrian refugees to flock into their territory, and so Turkey decided to give them a refugee state in the Gulf. In the Red Sea, Israel agreed to support the creation of Palestinian state in Hejaz, while other muslims got around to rebuilding Mecca.

South Atlantic:

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The years following The Great Transport were long and tough for South America. Argentina and Brazil emerged as the main powers, with a huge rivalry between the two. While both got to the Pacific coasts rather easily, what they did was rather different. Argentina went even further from their coastlines to claim the Easter Islands, Pitcairn Islands and even the Gambier Islands, while Brazil consolidated their claims over the Caribbean sea, even building a canal in the Isthmus of Tehuantepec. Meanwhile, Paraguay got hold of the Entire virgin Chaco immediately after. Across the Atlantic, while Brasilia settled on African capes, forged friendships with fellow lusophone Angola and even started colonizing their former colonizer, Argentina saw their biggest prize across the Argentine Sea: a chance to finally make the saying “Las Malvinas son Argentinas” a reality. Without the British government to help them, Buenos Aires mobilised its navy and immediately took over the Falklands, complete with a victory speech at Puerto Argentino.

The aftermath of the 2nd Falkland War sent shivers down the remaining British Territories. Not wanting to get swamped by Latinos and share the same fate as Stanley, Jamestown and King Edward Point decided to put themselves under the sovereignty of fellow Anglophone nation South Africa, now being run from the parliament located in Cape Town. They would try to pitch ideas on how they would try to retake the Falklands, as well as expanding their sphere of influence. Speaking of which, South Africa did that by resettling the east and Establishing colonies on Madagascar in a competition against Angola for Regional Dominance. Angola managed to colonize the Zambezi river valley as a coast to the Indian Ocean and is currently in a race with South Africa over who can colonize Madagascar the most. While this African Cold War did lead to a few scuffles, It was nothing compared to the utter mess that was once called the Democratic Republic of the Congo. Long story short: It exploded. To be more elaborative, without foreign aid, the DRC collapsed into civil war, with the two sides based in Kinshasa and Kisangani fighting each other while Ituri and Kivu insurgencies raged on. The Congolese chaos gave Katanga its much wanted chance to break free, and it ended up forging good relations with Luanda, which decided to do a little trolling and moved its troops to occupy Kinshasa’s coastal regions, effectively making it landlocked and worsening the situation. What was happening south of the Ubangi River gave Bangui a pretty bad warning if it didn’t try to change, and so they gave the muslim areas in the North autonomy to build their Empire in peace. Meanwhile, the 5,314 Equatoguineans in Annobon weren’t happy that Gabon took their mainland, but could make up for it by finding another oil source in the Niger river Delta.
Damn, this is really nice for a traced-over worlda. Good stuff.
 
After the flare killed most of Scandinavia's population people became superstitious of technology. This and the memory of the 2300s war combined to form this consensus in culture that progress is bad and leads to all kinds of catastrophies. Humanity was sort of "traumatized". Any attempts to reinvent stuff would bring forth the tales of death and destruction. This seeped into major religions, and boom - progress is basically taboo for thousands of years.
And between the last three frames there was several unrelated (mostly climatic) collapses that just kind of nailed the coffin of civilization, at least in Europe.
(But mostly I just wanted there to be a "cyclical" theme, like everything would return to more or less where it started).
Did humanity manage to colonize other planets before that happened? I could see Earth reverting back to primitivism, while our descendants live on the Moon and a semi-terraformed Mars. Great work, by the way!
 
Did humanity manage to colonize other planets before that happened? I could see Earth reverting back to primitivism, while our descendants live on the Moon and a semi-terraformed Mars. Great work, by the way!
Thanks. Space colonization kinda didn't take off. They barely colonized orbit, and those settlements got destroyed in the war.
 
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... And here's the OTL worlda for 1700. Thought it'd be a good idea to start moving away from Euratlas for this one, it was not -- what should have been a fairly easy map lead me on a wild goose chase for good maps of 1700s France with fairly limited luck.
 
Huh, what's going on with the Sakha invading Russia twice?
Just a large scale migration. Yakuts have pretty good birthrates, so over the next several centuries their population outgrew that of Russians in Siberia (which they didn't even own anymore). Then in 2700s-3200s it just took a couple outside invasions and changes in climate to make them spill out into Europe.
 
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