Map Thread XXI

[What am I doing]

How'd you make the globe gif?

First I made the Mercator projection of the map.

And then I just used this site to make it into a globe, from which I also derived the Robinson projection upon which I then drew borders and all other stuff.
In hindsight, I should have drawn stuff on the Mercator map first, so that it could also be seen on the globe, but I dislike Mercator on principle, so it is what it is.

 

[LoneStarCowboy]

This is the series of political, religious and other world maps for a fantasy image choice game (which can be seen here) I've made some time ago. There was a post about the previous version of the map in 2017 (I think), and I've updated how things are meant to be since then.

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The panel with the descriptions of each country is too big to post, so I've uploaded it here:

https://imgur.com/kaSdX8k

And here is the globe gif of the world:

https://imgur.com/CQB6jjZ

Always love a good fantasy world. What's the religious stuff? I can kinda draw parallels elsewhere, but what's sorta the tl;dr breakdown on religions?

 

[DaniCBP]

Red Flood!
The year is 1949, and the tensions between the ever-growing communist sphere and the capitalist world are leading the world to a new War, a more Cold one...
​

The Normandy Landings were a failure. The German defenses, combined with the abrupt change of weather, made the beaches of northern France a bloodbath. Western allies' morale was hit hard, and the stagnant advance in southern Italy made the situation worse. However, to maintain this level of resistance, the Nazis had to move divisons from the Generalgouvernement to the Western Front. Still, the war was already decided: the failure of the Ustaša of maintaining control at their country, with the subsequent liberation of Albania and Yugoslavia by the Partisans, and the extremely fast advance of the Red Army, made the Axis' surrender only a matter of time.
The 14th of January Budapest fell. Then, Vienna fell the 12th of February, to a combined Soviet-Yugoslav contingent.
The communist-backed Italian Partisans rose up on March, taking the control of the main northern cities, while letting the Red Army and Yugoslav Popular Army enter the country.
Then, the Allies made a succesful landing at the southern coast of France, near Marseille, which led to the mostly peaceful liberation of southern France, which some clashes with the remaining Wehrmacht units stationed in the Atlantic Wall.
The 8th of April, 1945, Berlin fell. The 9th, Paris was liberated.
Soviet and American forces met near Luxembourg, with the last pockets of Nazi resistance in Czechia, Latvia and Austria being supressed by Soviet-backed insurgents.
The war in Europe ended finally.
The next years were a chaotic mess: the end of the war in Asia with the defeat of Japan, the still raging Chinese Civil war, the Partition of India, the surprinsingly win of Soviet-style communist parties at the elections in France, Belgium and Denmark; the (evitable) partition of Italy between north and south, and the colonial conflicts between Metropoli and insurgents...
The Spectre of Communism was transformed into a Flood of Communism, infiltrating nearly all of Mainland Europe, and changing the world in a way never seen.

This is the current situation of our world:
(Version 1, regular map, Version 2, with some in-map added information):

As always, I'll try to answer your questions. Enjoy!

 

[Al-Za’im]

The position of the Ottoman Empire entering the Conference of Luxembourg was particularly precarious. Although allied to the victorious German Empire, Constantinople's ambitions did not reflect the reality of the situation. The Levant and Mesopotamia where effectively under the control of Anglo-French forces and their Hashemite Arab allies, beyond residual pockets of resistance the Ottomans had been largely defeated on the battlefield. Their German allies, suffering on the brink of an economic breakdown, had not achieved the total victory which would of allowed the diplomatic capital to satisfy all of the Sublime Porte's desires. Nevertheless, the Ottomans where formally victors of the Great War and sought to establish such at the largest diplomatic conference since the Congress of Berlin. The result was a tedious set of back-and-forth negotiations leading to a set of concessions and compromises that was formalized as the Treaty of Ansembourg.

Entering the Conference, the Ottoman diplomatic mission established a set of propositions that would prove essential in subsequent negations, these included: International recognition of Ottoman expansion in the Caucasus, the establishment of Ottoman clientage over the newly independent Caucasian republics, the end of Allied support of the Arab Revolt, the annexation of Kuwait, the return of territory lost to the Italians in the Italo-Turkish war, abrogation of Cyprus's annexation as a Crown Colony and return to the Cyprus Convention and the exertion of Ottoman influence over its nominally suzerain Egypt.

The initial proposals where not amenable to Allied interests. Both the French and British desired influence in the Middle East, with the latter increasingly concerned on a potential attack on the strategically important Egypt. Over the course of negotiations, Allied diplomats agreed to recognise Ottoman expansion in the East and certain other terms in return for major concessions. Both the British and French would establish protectorates in the Levant, with Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem (including the Sanjaks of Nabulus and Acre) integrated as a form of buffer state under British rule, and the Mount Lebanon Mutasarrifate enlarged and declared the Protectorate of Greater Lebanon. Within this compromise, the Protectorates where placed under nominal Ottoman suzerainty akin to the status of Cyprus pre-1914. The British government vehemently refused to cede Kuwait, yet agreed to abrogate Cyprus's integration as a Crown Colony and established a bilateral council over Egypt. Although effectively a powerless advisory body joint appointed by HMS Government and the Sublime Porte, it formally established a manner of which the Ottomans could granted insight into the administration of Egypt.

The situation of the Arab Revolt proved to be rather untroubled negotiations-wise. Despite the fierce protestations of Emir Faysal (who had not been invited to the Conference and had resorted to publicly appealing to the Ottomans), the Allied powers rescinded any support for the nascent Arab nationalist effort. Ottoman hegemony over the Hejaz, Mesopotamia and Levant (beyond Palestine and Lebanon) would be formally recognised. Continued low-scale resistance by Hashemite-aligned forces would persist across the region until being largely subdued in 1923. Ironically, the Allied betrayal would prove to ignite rather then extinguish the flames of Arab nationalism.

Under the terms of the Treaty of Ansembourg, the Eastern Agean and Dodecanese islands where returned to the jurisdiction of the Porte. The former Tripoli Eyalet (comprising of Tripolitania, Cyrenaica and Fezzan) remained under Italian rule despite fierce opposition by the Ottomans. Nonetheless, the Italian government formalized a set of compromises with the Treaty with the Emirate of Cyrenaica, bringing about a settlement which allowed Emir Idris to autonomously administer the interior of Cyrenaica in return for the renunciation of loyalty to the Ottomans.

Expansion in the Caucasus proved to be a triumph for the Sublime Porte, achieving international recognition of the reintegration of Kars, Childir and Erezum into the Empire, alongside the annexation of Alexandropol, Surmalu (including Mount Ararat), Akhalkalak, and Akhaltskha. Although recognizing their independence, the Porte would attempt to establish suzerainty over the nascent Caucasian Republics, ironically affirming “peace and friendship” within the terms of the Treaty. Furthermore, the Ottoman-Persian border would be revised, resulting in minor expansion in the borderlands.

The Conference would prove to be a cause celebre for the Ottomans, paradoxically inciting uproar and delight. The failure to expand in Kuwait and North Africa alongside the loss of much of the Eastern Mediterean coast provoked major controversy, while increased influence in Egypt and Cyprus and expansion in the Caucasus and Eastern Aegean where touted as grand victories. Indisputably, Luxembourg would define Ottoman politics (and by extension the entire Middle East) for the next four decades.

 

[Tyche]

What a beautiful map!

Thank you! Really gotta give it to @skozik for the coloration, he made that scale and it looks lovely

Man, the whole Marinaris/Xanthe/Margaritifer network is just asking to be the cradle of civilization, especially since the large watershed and lack of tides might make a surprising amount of it quite fresh.

Yeah! It certainly seems like it would make a really vital natural trade coridor to the inland, but it remains to be seen where the main population centers will be, we still need to work out climate and rivers and all that.

 

[FesteringSpore]

@Al-Za’im Very original idea, having the Ottomans win but still having British and French de facto colonies in the Levant. I like it a lot.

 

[PauL62]

 

[PrinceofEnceladus]

Red Flood!
​

As always, I'll try to answer your questions. Enjoy!

What is the status of the communist "colonies" in Africa and elsewhere? Are they just sort-of placeholders while the independent governments are being formed to be free or are they something else entirely?

Great map and scenario by the way!

 

[Zygmunt Stary]

Crosspost from Reddit post

https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/comments/dbfbx2

, but anyways worth sharing.

 

[Library of Alexandria]

Red Flood!
The year is 1949, and the tensions between the ever-growing communist sphere and the capitalist world are leading the world to a new War, a more Cold one...
​

The Normandy Landings were a failure. The German defenses, combined with the abrupt change of weather, made the beaches of northern France a bloodbath. Western allies' morale was hit hard, and the stagnant advance in southern Italy made the situation worse. However, to maintain this level of resistance, the Nazis had to move divisons from the Generalgouvernement to the Western Front. Still, the war was already decided: the failure of the Ustaša of maintaining control at their country, with the subsequent liberation of Albania and Yugoslavia by the Partisans, and the extremely fast advance of the Red Army, made the Axis' surrender only a matter of time.
The 14th of January Budapest fell. Then, Vienna fell the 12th of February, to a combined Soviet-Yugoslav contingent.
The communist-backed Italian Partisans rose up on March, taking the control of the main northern cities, while letting the Red Army and Yugoslav Popular Army enter the country.
Then, the Allies made a succesful landing at the southern coast of France, near Marseille, which led to the mostly peaceful liberation of southern France, which some clashes with the remaining Wehrmacht units stationed in the Atlantic Wall.
The 8th of April, 1945, Berlin fell. The 9th, Paris was liberated.
Soviet and American forces met near Luxembourg, with the last pockets of Nazi resistance in Czechia, Latvia and Austria being supressed by Soviet-backed insurgents.
The war in Europe ended finally.
The next years were a chaotic mess: the end of the war in Asia with the defeat of Japan, the still raging Chinese Civil war, the Partition of India, the surprinsingly win of Soviet-style communist parties at the elections in France, Belgium and Denmark; the (evitable) partition of Italy between north and south, and the colonial conflicts between Metropoli and insurgents...
The Spectre of Communism was transformed into a Flood of Communism, infiltrating nearly all of Mainland Europe, and changing the world in a way never seen.

This is the current situation of our world:
(Version 1, regular map, Version 2, with some in-map added information):

As always, I'll try to answer your questions. Enjoy!

Just a word of advice: if you're doing insets, please place them on the sides of the map, instead of in the ocean. It gets distracting otherwise.

 

[JSilvy]

The State of Ayiti: A Taino Israel
(from "Where the River Flows")​

This map is a concept for the future of my timeline "Where the River Flows" (sorry for the potential spoiler) in which the Mississippi becomes a major cradle of civilization, resulting in an advanced China-like empire uniting and falling apart over the centuries known as Misia. One of the effects this has is making the Tainos more technologically advanced as well, boosting their population on the island of Ayiti/Hispaniola to twice what it was in our timelines 1492.

When Columbus lands on the island, he conquers and genocides the natives, and many agree to convert and assimilate to Spanish culture, although many are able flee as refugees as the Spanish make their way through the Caribbean. Many settle in coastal cities on the mainland. They spread word of the Spanish, allowing for them to be more easily defeated when Hernan Cortes tries to invade Misia, but the Tainos still face adversity everywhere in diaspora. They often cling to their religion as a way to maintain their identity, operate as pirates, and find common ground with the mostly Sephardic Jewish community in the Americas over their minority status and treatment by Spain.

In the late 19th Century, a group of Taino thinkers develop the Kayist movement, calling for the Taino to come together to reclaim sovereignty in the Caribbean. Many begin to move back into Hispaniola, which by this point is relatively underdeveloped compared to other Spanish holdings in the region, hoping to gain a majority. After World War I, Spain is defeated and Hispaniola becomes a British mandate. Latin American nationalists want to form a pan-Latin American state, and are promised by the English that such a state would be created, but they also make a promise to the Tainos that the land would become a Taino state. With the establishment of the mandate and increased disputes and skirmishes between the native-born Hispaniolans and the Taino settlers, Father Hermoso of Santiago decries the Tainos as pagans who have come to dispossess them and subvert their way of life, leading to the Pascuas Massacre on Eastern Sunday in 1920, starting in Santiago and spreading throughout the entire island. Massacres against Tainos continue throughout the 1920s, and by the 1930s, several Taino militias that had initially formed for protection start to engage in retaliatory action.

As violence escalates, there are several proposals made for partition, all of which are rejected by the Hispaniolans on the grounds that they did not wish to give up any of the island that their ancestors had been living on for over 400 years. As the British leave in 1948, the Tainos establish the State of Ayiti and are attacked by several invading Latin American armies, but manage to gain land. During the war, nearly one million Hispaniolans are displaced, many of whom were forced out in a deliberate ethnic cleansing perpetuated by the Ayitian Armed Force. Those Hispaniolans still living in Ayitian territory are kept under military rule for several decades and are treated as second-class citizens.

In another war, they capture the two remaining Hispaniolan territories of the Cayos Cape and the Dominican Shore. In violation of international law, Taino Ayitians begin moving into government-backed settlements in the Dominican Shore, carving up large swaths of territory preventing the Hispaniolans from achieving their own statehood while a relatively ineffectual Hispaniolan Authority runs the major Hispaniolan population centers. They had previously also settled the densely populated Cayos Cape, but pulled out, after which the Catholic fundamentalist group known as the Salvation Army took over. The Salvation Army frequently sends shoddily made rockets into Ayitian territory, although they are protected by an advanced air defense system. The Ayitians respond with disproportionate bombings and a devastating blockade, both of which have earned it numerous condemnations from the Global League.

As the State of Ayiti maintains what amounts to a settler apartheid system against the descendants of their former colonizers, and the Hispaniolans remain radicalized against any Taino presence on their island, the international community sees little hope for peace in the Caribbean.

 

[BrentiusAtticus]

Crossposting form WIP Map Thread.

You can already tell the premise here.

I don't think the borders of Ganymede, Callisto, and Europa look good lol (the bottom three).

 

[NeonHydroxide]

A test of some qgis styles and a prequel to this map and infobox from few years ago. Backstory in that post.

 

[DaniCBP]

What is the status of the communist "colonies" in Africa and elsewhere? Are they just sort-of placeholders while the independent governments are being formed to be free or are they something else entirely?

Great map and scenario by the way!

More or less, yeah.
They are still colonies, but with increasing autonomy and in the process of establishing an independent native government.
Still, these governments will be soviet-oriented and will follow advice from France to establish socialism on their territories, with cooperation between the ex-colonies on matters of resources and investment.
There are some exceptions though: Madagascar is, by 1949, independent with French influence on their policies, as the Malagasy Uprising was raging on at the time of the communist takeover of France, and they were granted independence with some conditions; Cambodia is more or less independent, also with French influence, meanwhile the Laotian and Vietnamese governments help the new Kampuchean government to reform the country into socialism.
The main plan is for France to no longer have colonies by 1955. Will it succeed? We don't know

 

[Al-Za’im]

@Al-Za’im Very original idea, having the Ottomans win but still having British and French de facto colonies in the Levant. I like it a lot.

Thank you very much!

 

[TheReformer]

"And when I saw the western Sun it was black, for all of its light had been abosbred by the artificial Sun created by man in the east".

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Honestly, most Axis victory maps I despise - this one is alright. Dun good!

 

[What am I doing]

Always love a good fantasy world. What's the religious stuff? I can kinda draw parallels elsewhere, but what's sorta the tl;dr breakdown on religions?

Sacramental is meant to be the stand in for Christianity. The story there is that God is dead and humans are his children and heirs, making humanity into its own god. Different confessions of Sacramental are supposed to focus on different things - humanity's spiritual connection to God for Gregorian, veneration of great figures and their bloodlines for Julian, and glorifying the state and nation for Arthurian.
Pagan religions are all about pantheons and native faiths, not any different from how it is on Earth.
Umbraic is a dead religion that worships darkness, except this is not presented as something evil or sinister, but a good and blissful thing for the sanctuary it would grant after death.
Godhead has this gnostic-ish pseudo-anarchy thing going for it. You can see how I was jumping through hoops trying to come up with new ways to say "this state is ruled by god instead of men" for each of their states. This is also why none of the Godhead's countries have the "kingdom of" or the like in their name (other than the Necrocracy). Spread of the Godhead was meant to act out the role paralleling early Muslim conquests.
Ungodly is less a religion and more a giant red sign on the map that says "things are really screwed up". It is pure evil with supernatural origins. Because of how unhuman and horrifying those countries are meant to be, it is pointless to describe whatever religious doctrine they follow (because they don't really follow any).
Iblisian and Mu are explained in the descriptions of their countries, so there's nothing I can add here.
Aurelian and Nihilant have little going for them because they are not meant to be the focus. They're pretty simple and each is explained in a single short sentence in their country descriptions.
Irreligious is self explanatory.

 

[Maharlikan_]

THE PHILIPPINE ANARCHY
Inspired by GenralBaffoon 's style of maps
Emblem of the Maharlika National State from DIEshinkan911isback
The Flags of Palawan, Pangasinan, Aklan, Capiz, and Madja-as from ramones1986
Flag of the "Filipino Provisional Commission" is actually a rendition of a variant of the Republic of Negros' Flag, made by Ph_Republik
Profiles generated from thispersondoesnotexist.com
Map made using Examap

A continuation of this map: www.deviantart.com/tondoempire…
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For fourteen years of brutal back-and-forth Jungle/Urban warfare, the Philippine Insurrection became one of the thorn to the United Nation's paw in their goal of unifying the world under one administration. Multiple times did the All-Filipino Revolutionary Front almost lost to the United Nation Peacekeepers, but from sheer perseverance (and with the help of mercenaries) the AFRF came out victorious over the U.N. on August 12, 2048, in the Battle of Davao City, finally ending the fourteen-year conflict. A few weeks later, the Manila Peace Accords was signed between the two groups, which officially recognized the country as independent from the United Nations. For the other "Separatist" Factions and the remaining independent nations the victory of the Filipinos boosted their own pride and their belief in remaining independent from the United Nations, leading to the inevitable increase in protests and riots by certain groups within the United Nations, but at the same time the conflict left the Philippines in absolute shambles. Nearly all of its major cities are in ruins, with countless barangays even being wiped clean off the map. Despite these odds, however, the Filipinos saw this as a chance to completely rebuild their society, a goal taken up by the fourth Supremo of the New Katipuneros and virtually the rest of the AFRF: Jose Alejandro Mendoza.

In order to help the country transition to a new government, Mendoza formed the Filipino Provisional Commission on the 29th of August. Within the first two months, however, Mendoza found that governing the rest of the country through Manila proved to be difficult, so he established several Regional Districts in the Islands, which either were ran by the dominant factions of each region or by a coalition of factions in the region. While this proved to help the F.P.C. administer more efficiently, it failed to solve another growing problem: the increasing divide between the idea of which Political System fits better for the country, mainly between the Communists, the Conservatives, the Liberals and the Ultranationalists. President Mendoza tried his best to mediate the tensions between each side, but proved to be fruitless as they refuse complete compromises in several cases. At the same time, his legitimacy as president and his true allegiance has been put into questioning as it was discovered that he deep connections with the Last President before the Insurrection, who fled the country once the fighting started. As time goes on, the possibility of another conflict grows higher, so in preparation several groups has began consolidating their power in the territories they control. Others, like the Communists and Ultranationalists, began to establish large networks all over the islands.

While it seems that everyone is veering for war, some factions tried their best to avoid it. The Cordillerans were completely neutral in most of the political arguments, while some like the Secular faction within Bangsamoro are willing to even compromise with non-muslims for a more equal administration, but unfortunately that is being challenged by more radical elements within Bangsamoro and Christian Mindanao. In the Visayas the dominant faction, the Federalists under the Federal State of the Visayas, tried their best to appease everyone, but at the end only succeeded in relinquishing virtually most of their power to local autonomies, with other factions taking advantage of this to cement their own networks all over the group of islands.

Back in Manila, Mendoza thought that the only way to prevent a full-blown civil war was by taking back the complete powers of the Presidency. So in the 2nd of June, 2049, he abolished the Regional Districts and established himself as the sole authority of the Philippines. This, however, only sealed the fate of the country as this move completely destroyed his legitimacy in the eyes of majority of the factions, with the communists using this opportunity to finally take control. On June 12, Independence Day, President Mendoza was shot point-blank by a member of the Southern Tagalog branch of the Communist Party during his speech. With the head of the snake decapitated, the Communist Party proclaimed their goal to finally finish the revolution that started all the way back in the 1970s and launched an offensive on the entire country. Also seeing this as an opportunity, the once united factions of the All-Filipino Revolutionary Front broke off and pointed their weapons at each other.

The Anarchy stage of the conflict has begun.

May God help the Philippines, for nobody else can.
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[HisMajestyPurpleCat]

So what if one of these guys was a ruler of Ukraine?

 

[Kruglyasheo]

I was trying to figure out why the administrative division of the Soviet Caucasus was so absurd when it occurred to me that Czecho-Slovakia and Checheno-Ingushetia sound a bit similar. So here is Europe with borders and city name changes in the style of the Caucasian 1960.