Huh, I thought all you needed to do with give a guy a parachute and lo! suddenly you have 60,000 Germans in the Isle of Wight.
Operation Sea Lion (1974 Sandhurst Wargame)
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Huh, I thought all you needed to do with give a guy a parachute and lo! suddenly you have 60,000 Germans in the Isle of Wight.
Parachutes, they don't need no steenking parachutes! These are Germans they can jump out of aircraft & land under the power of their manly Germaness
Missed 100 but now we are at 150!
Exactly as many as they will have on IOW
It would all be blamed on Germans anyway......
And they are suitable for beams over England?
What tempo are you talking about can the Germans bend time?
So Glenn, because you continue to misunderstand me, let me ask this one more time. How are the Germans, who are supplied and inserted entirely via air, as there are NO suitable ports in the South of the IoW, going to prevent a British landing to retake the Isle? It doesn't matter how big the initial garrison is. The question is how a bunch of light infantry with no mines, no armor, no artillery heavier then 37mm or so, and contested air superority AT BEST are going to prevent the British from taking back the Isle?
And let's not forget that a good portion of these 60,000 or so 'Paratroopers' are just line infantry given a hasty at best course on how to not die jumping out of a plane. So most of them have broken ankles or arms or what not from bad landings. And are hence little more then a liability. Oops, turns out that Paratroopers are not just Infantry "Thrown out of a Plane."
Because Unlike the Germans, the British DO have everything they need to launch a successful invasion of the Isle, and they actually ARE within 20 miles of their major naval base in the south, which even intensive bombardment was unable to drive the RN out.
"I'm sorry for your losses, but the Bombardment must continue."
Case closed. Everyone will think it's terribly tragic but don't you know there's a war on?
And let's not forget that a good portion of these 60,000 or so 'Paratroopers' are just line infantry given a hasty at best course on how to not die jumping out of a plane. So most of them have broken ankles or arms or what not from bad landings. And are hence little more then a liability. Oops, turns out that Paratroopers are not just Infantry "Thrown out of a Plane."
Because Unlike the Germans, the British DO have everything they need to launch a successful invasion of the Isle, and they actually ARE within 20 miles of their major naval base in the south, which even intensive bombardment was unable to drive the RN out.
"I'm sorry for your losses, but the Bombardment must continue."
Case closed. Everyone will think it's terribly tragic but don't you know there's a war on?
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Ian_W
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This is true. It is also utterly irrelevant, because the effort the Germans have to put into holding IOW means a weaker Sealion.
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Cynically speaking it would probably be blamed on German guns and if the historians are really lucky the truth will be declassified in the 1970's.
Also I'm now thinking the best parallel for this IOW invasion might be the Falklands War, with the Germans in the role of the Argentinians, only with far worse quality logistics and air support.
yes quite so.......but alas some were in truth working in the fields.there were three along the northshore of lake superior where tree farming was the predominant work.and at least one had fences around it where they kept the diehard nazis.it's now a rather nice provincial park with several miles of beach.not a bad place to camp out for the duration.
The RN could kill THREE THOUSAND civilians bombing the Isle into submission and it wouldn't cause a cabinet crisis.
Censorship would squash most of the reporting on anything that happens anyway. How long did it take for anyone to really learn about the Lancastria?
Yup.
Wait..so the British will kill 3000 of their own people and it would be a dark and tragic day. Umm..didn't the Nazi's do 'just a little bit more than that' throought their history or are Glen's Notzi's incapable of doing that and only bring peace and love to all people?
All the airfields on the Isle of Wight we’re closed and obstructed during the war. The only one left open was Somerton as a communication field a single north south 700yard landing area
As I have said before, other than Somerton, every possible landing field was over looked by high ground, all of which would have to be captured and held before the landing fields could be utilized.
Also modern pictures are quite misleading as even during my life time the fields on the Isle of Wight have been joined up by grubbing out hedges to facilitate the use of machinery. As others have said all the obvious landing fields had been obstructed.
By the way if you get your navigation just a little bit wrong and go to the west of Sandown your lovely shallow draft barges and coasters will be going through the St Catherine's overfalls and tidal race and to the east you have Bembridge ledge just waiting to rip the bottoms out of any wayward vessels!
If I was not laughing so hard at the whole concept of seizing the IOW in 1940 I would be getting miffed at the ignorance of reality being propounded by some posters.
If Even the Nazi's accepted that a cross channel invasion was impossible in 1940 then surely even a bunch of 21st century couch bound fantasists should accept their judgement and that of history, ALT or OTL.
Also modern pictures are quite misleading as even during my life time the fields on the Isle of Wight have been joined up by grubbing out hedges to facilitate the use of machinery. As others have said all the obvious landing fields had been obstructed.
By the way if you get your navigation just a little bit wrong and go to the west of Sandown your lovely shallow draft barges and coasters will be going through the St Catherine's overfalls and tidal race and to the east you have Bembridge ledge just waiting to rip the bottoms out of any wayward vessels!
If I was not laughing so hard at the whole concept of seizing the IOW in 1940 I would be getting miffed at the ignorance of reality being propounded by some posters.
If Even the Nazi's accepted that a cross channel invasion was impossible in 1940 then surely even a bunch of 21st century couch bound fantasists should accept their judgement and that of history, ALT or OTL.
Ian_W
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A *successful* cross channel invasion was impossible in 1940.
There are a number of plans that lead to a German fiasco, and we can add the IoW gambit to that list.
Those are just British tides. 6 knot German river barges scoff at them with teutonic will!