As far as I know the Brits made that up or something. Still interesting though.there was also this apparent plan for South America
i know there's a Worlda version of this floating around somewhere but i don't have it on-hand
there was also this apparent plan for South America
i know there's a Worlda version of this floating around somewhere but i don't have it on-hand
i'm glad i added the qualifier of "apparent" thenActually, I think this map was fabricated by British Intelligence.
i'm glad i added the qualifier of "apparent" then
i mean, i was only half-convinced that it was legit anyway, but Axis South America just looks so lonelyOh yes, I forgot to mention I can't read : P
there was also this apparent plan for South America
i know there's a Worlda version of this floating around somewhere but i don't have it on-hand
The map grows ever more complete.
I'd say it would come down to who would manage to seize the island. The Italians, probably would want it for themselves, and the British would want to keep it under their own control.Hitler wanted Turkey to relinquish all land claims in the areas he wanted Germany to control, like Crimea and the Caucasus. In exchange, they would get near-total control over the Black Sea. I don't know if Cyprus ever came up in their talks, though. I expected it would.
Added Vichy France, occupied Britain, Mittelafrika and neatified Lebansraum
So using the map from page 1 to add to these excellent maps:
Romania, Hungary, Bulgaria and Slovakia are good, but I preferred the Yugoslav/Greek region like it was in my version. This version looks a bit closer to OTL than to what Italy had actually planned. But that's just my opinion and I won't change it back.
The Yugoslav and Greek regions are from OTL. The thing about what Italy actually planned is that it overlapped with plans for powers (Germany, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria) that it had no way of bending to its will, especially in Yugoslavia and Greece. In areas where there were no overlapping claims, then the full Italian ambitions make sense to be shown, but Germany had ambitions in Serbia and Croatia (hence the northern part of Croatia was under German influence) and Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria all had their own ambitions that Italy was essentially powerless to stop (Italy wasn't about to go to war with any of those powers over Yugoslavia or Greece; once Italy had control of the Adriatic and most of the eastern Mediterranean then Italy was going to be satisfied).
EDIT: And of course by 1943 things had changed quite a bit, since Bulgaria was then occupying much of Serbia on behalf of Germany since Germany needed the manpower elsewhere:
I wouldn't expect that was the planned state of affairs for either Germany or Bulgaria though, but more like a temporary expediency, so the original map with Serbia is what was initially executed and planned.
Okay, sure, but then what about Egypt? I'm pretty sure Italy's long-term plan was to annex it, not just have a puppet state. Same with Albania, which you showed with a different color
Don't have much to add on to this, but I cleaned up the border colors a bit since some of them used the coast color, and others used a border color. They should all use the border color now.View attachment 458315
Added Brazil and Argentina. Some of the Nazis' long-term goals included the political penetration and support of the Integralists in Brazil and far-right nationalists in Argentina, both countries which also have notable German populations.
View attachment 458315
Added Brazil and Argentina. Some of the Nazis' long-term goals included the political penetration and support of the Integralists in Brazil and far-right nationalists in Argentina, both countries which also have notable German populations.
Anybody else think it wouldn't hurt to show territories with overlapping claims as striped?View attachment 458315
Added Brazil and Argentina. Some of the Nazis' long-term goals included the political penetration and support of the Integralists in Brazil and far-right nationalists in Argentina, both countries which also have notable German populations.