The Red Crowns: The World of Imperial Socialism

Prologue
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By Major Crimson

Prologue: Where the Road Leads


Extract from: Shaping the World: The Ideologies of the 20th Century

By: Arthur E. Johnson

On the 19th of May 1919, five thousand miles apart, two yet-to-be-important men made two yet-to-be-important speeches.


On the stairs of the Bodleian Library in East Oxford, a tall, blonde stood high and proud; surrounded by large banners, all in red and purple, looking out over a crowd of some two thousand students, professors, politicians, reporters and passers by. The speaker was handsome, eloquent and smooth. Straightening out his red tie and stepping forward, he leaned into the audience and breathed in deeply. He stood confident at the podium, undeniably relaxed he stood forward, one hand gesturing towards the audience. Charisma oozed from him, as it always did, and the future PM gave one of his most famous addresses.

Ladies and Gentleman, this great meeting is gathered here this afternoon to discuss and explain the merits of our great movement. If you think the present system of things then there is no need for our new and dynamic ideas to take flower on this green and pleasant land, if you think that the Liberals and the Tories can simply exchange the reigns of government forever more and this will bring you liberty than my speech today should be disregarded as empty, as unnecessary.”

Behind the speaker, a student in black tie and suit shuffled nervously. Ossie had helped write the speech and it had the potential to launch him forward in the party but he couldn't help but worry. The future Chancellor made his first outing here and stroked his neatly trimmed, RAF-style moustache with his thumb.

"However my friends, I dream I a little higher than that, I aim a little higher than that. Our magnificent country, our wonderful Empire; they deserve more than second best. So I come to you today with a new future; a future built by and for us, the people of the British Empire! No more exploitation from on high and no more rabble rousing from below; Now I know some of you think our movement a joke.”

In the crowd, a boy of 14 looked up at the great podium and found himself oddly inspired. Eric had never given much heed to politics before; it bored him to death when father droned on and on about it, but he found himself oddly drawn to the man on the platform. Although he did not yet know it, the future Home Secretary would become the Party’s first youth member later that day.

To some of you we are traitors,” the speaker continued, “to others fools. What we are, at heart, is patriots. What we are, is fathers, sons, brothers. We care for our country, we care for our people. What I speak of is not a contradiction as some of you think it. We promise a future, for the boy in Manchester and the girl in Bangalore. We speak of justice, for the craftsman in London and the farmer in Queensland. We offer advancement, liberty, progress; for the mother in Toronto and for the grandmother in Glasgow.

He took a deep breath. “Two words. Imperial Socialism.

He paused for a moment and, as he would later record in his diary, was confused that instead of the laughter he had become used to, his speech was met with applause. This was the moment that the "Great Three" of British politics were first in the same place. This was the moment that Charles Chaplin and the movement he had led for nearly a decade went from the comic relief of British politics to its driving force.

Meanwhile, in the dusty streets of Salt Lake City, the Reverend Roosevelt roused both the Mormon and the Gentile people of the city to his cause and his slow march up the ladder of American politics began. His flags had red, of course, but none of the Oxonian purple. Instead, red white and blue flew from every window in the street, it billowed out from around Roosevelt, it embraced the scene and dominated the town square. Behind the speaker a great cross stood, ten feet tall and present at all his rallies. The Reverend stood in unbowed by the great hunk of wood behind him, confident and steely faced, he began to dictate.

My good Christian men and women, of all colours, of all great and godly creeds, I thank you for your warm welcome to your warm town. A spectre is haunting these United States, the spectre of Socialism, (Yes, he really did steal that from the Communist Manifesto) of Heathenry, of discord and disruption.

The Reverend gripped the podium but stood tall and imposing, his black robes seemed to rise high above the crowd. Authority resonated in every syllable.

Subversive elements have infiltrated our great nation, stood in the way of the American people. They have stood in the way of our faith, of our purity.


The ‘R’ sound in purity, as always with the great Franklin R, was rolled beyond any normal manner of speech.

They have stood not out of a genuine belief in ‘progress’, nor out of any true political convictions but out of corruption! Corruption of the soul, with alcohol. Corruption of the hand, with money. Corruption of the mind, with socialism. Corruption of the heart, with liberalism. I speak now to you, as good christians from whatever your denomination, whoever your pastor; if you are godly men then stand now. Stand for Christ, stand for Colombia, stand for justice!

As with Chaplin it was from here that, for the good Reverend and his movement, the snowball began to roll.


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From: aej/mag/oxf/uni/com

To: mcc/war/cam/uni/com


Dear Marie,


Hey honey, I hope Uni is going well, I know its Green Week but try not to get too hammered with the First Years OK?


Its early days and I’m sure you’ve got more than enough work but I’ve attached the first copy of my dissertation’s intro, I can’t think of where to take it with Roosevelt and the CPP but mostly I need talk about the build up to this point, the Short and Long Wars, the Lib-Imp coalition, ect ect ects. I know your work is more Sociology but it’d still help to have some input.


Oh next time you’re in Oxford, remind me there’s a new Shimi place on Magdalen Street, I’ve got to take you!


Love you,


Artie


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Authors Note: Alright so this is a bit bizarre, a bit of a drop in the dark I realise. This TL is something I've been trying to put out in some form or another since about 2014, some of you might even remember the first version of this that I posted. I've had 3 different versions written and scrapped in between now and then but this is a TL with vague plans from its 1870s pod up until at least the 1980s so I hope to turn this into something pretty long lasting and interesting. I'll be hopefully posting a couple times a week so please enjoy, I promise things will become clearer!
 
I - Laying the Foundations
Chapter One: Laying the Foundations

Extract from: The Red Crowns; A History of Imperial Socialism

By: Steve Pooley, Published Oxford University Press, 1999


Socialism in the British system has taken a great many forms, beginning in both the Utopian Owenite movement and the later Chartist Reformers (which many modern British Historians and Socialists point to as the first true “Socialists”) but only really took on its own distinctive form at the tail end of the 19th century. With Marxian ideas the dominant mode of thought at the time, socialism was largely constrained by anti-establishment, revolutionary and oddly anarchistic tendencies, as a result the movement had floundered in Britain with Marx himself commenting “Britain has all the conditions necessary for revolution, except the want for one”. Imperial Socialism, however, changed that.


Founded in 1890 by members of the intellectual and socialist Fabian Society, unsurprisingly to many modern political observers a group consisting almost entirely of philosophers, poets and middle class political theorists, the Imperial Socialist Federation was an attempt to bring Socialism not only to the British masses but (more importantly) to Parliament. Outlined in the Charter of Imperial Socialism, their ideology was initially a mere thought experiment and an attempt at furthering ties between left-leaning Liberals and Cooperatives with moderate Trade Unionists and Socialist. The initial Charter was penned largely by three men; Frank Podmore, George Shaw and Sydney Oliver, with contributions from many other prominent Fabians including HG Wells and Bertrand Russell. The ideology of the Fabians (as the movement in general has come to be known) was based around 5 “ Loyalties”:

I) Loyalty to the Crown, Country, Queen and Empire - The movement established herein makes it clear that it bears no pretensions to revolution and instead proclaims an undying loyalty to the British Monarchy. This includes a devotion to the British Parliamentary system of governance.

II)Loyalty to the People - The movement and party pledge to place the interests of the citizens of the British Empire at the forefront of its policy and to ensure health, happiness and prosperity for all men and women who live under the union jack.

III) Loyalty to Democracy - The movement devotes itself to the cause of democracy and reform. We swear to work to achieve true, fair and representative democracy across Britain, the Empire and the World.

IV) Loyalty to Liberty - The movement believes in the continued advancement of social causes and personal freedoms and hopes to achieve the equality of all persons under the banner of Great Britain.

V) Loyalty to Socialism - The movement, though reformist and revisionist in nature, is at its core a Socialistic one and thus must unendingly move to the emancipation of the British Worker and the nationalisation of key industries, as well as having a comprehensive social policy which might support Loyalties II and IV.


The Charter would continue for another 20 pages, roughly outlying vague ideas of an equalised and reformed nation and even empire as well as making more specific promises in terms of economic and social policy; outlying plans for Universal Health Care, Pensions, Education provisions and parliamentary reform, as well as the nationalisation of certain heavy industries, namely Coal and Steel. Whilst fascinating to examine and ultimately extremely successful, the movement was at first greatly derided from both left and right. To Socialists it was a bland, watered down and Bourgeoisie corruption of the cause, whilst to Right wingers it was yet more lefite claptrap, however publications from the Fabians and associated thinkers sooner began to circulate in London and before long the Fabians saw their membership increasing rapidly. From a few hundred at its founding in 1884, it skyrocketed to just over 10,000 by the turn of the 1890s. It seemed apparent and in fact, inevitable, that the Fabians would found a mainstream political party.


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Initially a poet, Shaw would go on to be one of the most influential thinkers and leaders in the Imperial Socialist movement.
 
I hope they don't become too moderate. They should be at least a few steps to the left of OTL's Labour Party in order for this to be interesting.
 
II - Raise the Scarlet Standard High
Chapter Two: Raise the Scarlet Standard High

Extract From: Unity and Progress: The Rise of the Fabians
By: Sophie Keynes
It came as no surprise then when, in March 1891, in front of a crowd of some 3,000 students, activists and academics outside of the Fabian-run London School of Economics, the General Secretary of the Society, George Shaw, announced the founding of the Imperial Socialist Party, a coalition of Fabians, Cooperatives, Socialists and a few left-leaning Liberals that would contest elections across the nation. With its strong basis in the Fabian Society as well as the support of many trade unions and almost all of Britain’s economic cooperatives, the Party had no shortage of funds or of candidates for elections and as such in the 1892 elections would win 50 seats, an amazing feat for a party founded just a year prior. The majority of these came from an absorption of Lib-Lab and Independent Liberal MPs, as well as excellent showings in University towns; with the party winning both Oxford and Cambridge University constituencies. The resultant Liberal minority government was doomed to failure and collapsed in 1894, leading to a snap election called by the ageing William Gladstone. From the start it was a battle for the mainstream parties to maintain their positions; the moderate and modernising Marquess of Landsdown hoped to vanquish Gladstone's continuous ambitions whilst the grandfather of the Liberals held on to the Premiership and his life with an increasingly feeble hand. The Liberal Unionists initially stole the show; Joseph Chamberlain's performances in Parliament and public popularity began to give him sway however the patriotic-but-radical ideas of the Imperial Socialists soon began to shine through. Aided by George Shaw's powerful oratory and speech writing skills, the Socialists made slow but steady gains and the Tories began to rapidly lose ground to the three left-of-centre parties, whilst the IPP began to dominate the Irish sphere. Britian was in a state of flux between two systems and the result was choatic.

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The 1894 election proved the disastrous problems with the British voting system and with what was now effectively a five party system (Liberal, Tory, ImpSoc, Irish and Unionist) the Tories were able to exploit divisions in the Liberal camp which was split between centre (Liberal), right (Unionist) and left (ImpSoc). This led to the Conservatives left as the largest party but winning more than 10% less of the vote than the Liberals. With parliament split (thanks to both the sudden rise of the Fabians as well as the near universal success of the Irish Parliamentary Party) Britain entered one of its first coalitions as the Liberals and IPP came together on a basis of pragmatic opposition to the Tories and Gladstone remained Prime Minister and his Fifth Ministry saw him appoint John Redmond, leader of the recently united Irish Parliamentary Party to both the important position of First Secretary of State and the newly founded position of Deputy Prime Minister. In exchange for the support of the Irish, Gladstone promised Home Rule for Ireland be achieved by the turn of the century, much to the protestation of the Conservatives and Unionists. Following their success in Britain, the Fabians would extend the party to Canada, Cape, Australasia and Westralia over the coming decade and start to contest (and win) elections across the British Empire. The Coalition would see Britain through a series of massive upheavals; in British politics, international diplomacy and across global society, it was a time of sudden and sweeping changes.



Extract from: I Bless the Rains: Modern War in Africa
By: Connor Yeng


Many modern historians see the late 19th century conflict between the Entente and the Anglo-Japanese alliance as largely inevitable and despite some minor revisionism away from this, it still maintains its status as the dominant narrative for the start of Great Wars Period. The reasons for this should be apparent; colonial tensions between the British and Russians had been playing out for many years in the form of the Great Game and, following European Colonisation of Africa, an extremely similar confrontation emerged in the Congo Dispute (sometimes clumsily titled the ‘African Great Game’) between Britain and France. The utter failure of the International African Association to receive backing, due in large part to the death of its principal founder, King Leopold II of Belgium, left Africa up for grabbing by the colonial powers. Despite the Stockholm Compromise of 1889, which saw the heartland of the Congolese territory divided between the secondary European powers of Sweden, Belgium and Spain in an attempt to reduce tensions, it was still the three way race between Great Britain, France and Germany that continued to drive the continent towards war. In general, Britain was accepted to hold hegemony to the east and south of the Congo River whilst France controlled the North and West with German holdings scattered throughout. British determination to achieve the “Cape to Cairo” dream as well as French attempts to secure the river for themselves, not to mention the oft forgotten White Nile debate, all painted a picture of conflict that spanned the continent in a diagonal line. When violence did break out it came from the now infamous Fort Leopold Affair.
 
Authors note: This is a little rushed but I hope it starts to set the scene; I'll be giving a world map and a little more detail on the outside world tommorow!


I hope they don't become too moderate. They should be at least a few steps to the left of OTL's Labour Party in order for this to be interesting.

You'll see, in some ways they're very moderate, in others more radical than Labour ever were. Remember, they're appealing to a large, Imperial audience so they have to start with baby steps.

Oh my.
Oh god Christian fundamentalist America? I'm gonna need my stress ball....

No spoilers friend but its going to get interesting ;)
 
Ah, I do recall this Timeline and good to see it rebooted. Quite large effects so far just from the first few years and more to come as well. Does seem like things are happening a bit quickly but should be good to see how it expands once we see more of the world.
 
III - Of Kings and Their Dominions

Chapter 3: Of Kings and their Dominions

Extract from: The Making of the Modern German State, Published 1999
By: Ernst Braun

Friedrich IV is an odd figure in German history; inheriting the throne in 1888 from his father, Kaiser Wilhelm I, he was a liberal man and married to Princess Victoria, the eldest of the Queen of Great Britain’s children. Friedrich and his wife were keen admirers of the British monarchy upon their ascension ruled as Consorts, whilst slowly relegating their own role in German politics. Their liberalism and keen links to the British royal family led to some upset in Germany but they were a popular pair and before long Germany began to follow their example. Some believed that the Kaiser, known for his bold oratory, would lead the German people into a new age. However only three months after his taking of the throne, the Kaiser was diagnoses with a severe case of throat cancer, manifesting in his larynx. Scrambling for treatment for a seemingly incurable illness, the Kaiser turned to Ernst von Bergmann, a doctor who suggested a new but untried method; the total removal of the Kaiser’s voicebox. Whilst controversial and argued against by many of Friedrich's doctors, the procedure would indeed save his life however the Emperor was left without a voice box. His popular dubbing in the British and later world press as Mute Fred was more a token of sympathy and a jovial nickname than anything biting.

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Modern and popular, the new Kaiser had many ambitions despite his muteness.

Despite his disability, the now healthy Kaiser threw himself into the ruling of the German Empire and its reform. With the Reichstag Bill of 1890, Friedrich and his government reformed Germany into a true constitutional monarchy with universal male suffrage and a fairer electoral system. The Bill was radical and unpopular with many, including Bismark and the resultant falling out between the two men would divide German politics in the coming decades. Leaning on the mainstream opposition National Liberal Party as well as the German Freethinkers Party (known as the Progressives) who had begun to adopt Fabian-style views. Bismark lost his majority in the Reichstag to this new, Kaiser backed coalition and Eugen Richter would become Chancellor of the German Empire...

Extract from: How Empires Grow - Europe and her Colonies, Published 2013
By: Steven
Whitehorse



Circa 1880 Great Britain was undeniably the world’s most powerful Empire; during the scramble for Africa Britain travelled northward and westward from her colonies in the Cape and the Indian ocean in a desperate race for the Congo Basin. Cutting the continent of Africa in two, Britain would control roughly a third of the continent and add the African Jewel to her already mighty crown. This came only shortly after the Sandwich Affair in which an abortive American Coup of what was then known as Hawaii led to the Queen of the island nation turning to London and requesting protectorate status in a nigh-unprecedented move. Unsurprisingly, British morale and prestige was immensely high. And with liberal and left-leaning ideas gaining ground at home, began to look at the reform and advancement of her empire.


The experiment that was the Dominion of Canada had gone smashingly and thus the Gladstone governments of the 1880s and 1890s looked to bring this system of government to at the time 2 new regions of the Empire. British plans for an Australasian dominion included the Australian and New Zealand colonies and was achieved after almost a decade of back and forth between Whitehall and the various governments of the colonies, through the pain and the constant secessionist flare-up in Western Australia and New Zealand, the Confederation of Australasia was eventually established in 1891. Its capital in Melbourne and its system incredibly decentralised so as to placate her more rebellious states. Even this was seemingly not enough however and following a foolishly granted referendum in 1893 (what could possibly go wrong?) the state of Western Australia voted to secede from the Confederation and resultantly established its own Dominion of Westralia. This left New Zealand in the rather odd position of being tied to only half of Australia but a general panic in Whitehall and Melbourne over a splintering region. The constitutional and legal headaches the British government suffered over the issue were endless and upon the signing of the constitution of Westralia, Gladstone famously remarked “I once said with regards to Holstein that three men understood the question, with Australian Problem I fear only god knows.”

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The bitter rivalry between the comparatively much larger Australasia (left) and Westralia (right) invades all things; sports, drinks, politics. If it exists, they'll find a way to fight about it. Australasia usually win, for obvious reasons,

In comparison, the Cape came into existence smoothly; having been held quite firmly under the hand of its veteran administrator Saul Solomon, the region had flourished since the signing of the Boer Accords in 1885 in which Great Britain acknowledged the independence of a singular, united Boer Republic in exchange for minor border concessions and trade rights for British mining companies. This led to a massive boon in British gold and diamond mining and a huge windfall for the colony. Solomon took great advantage of this and began to build his profile at home and abroad. Following his election for the fourth time as the colony's Prime Minister, he drafted and submitted to the colonial assembly, a Dominion Bill. With willing assent from Whitehall, the colony transitioned to an independent Dominion of the Cape with, surprisingly for the era, a multiracial franchise and healthy two party system. Cape would eventually expand northwards into Uppland and Rhodesia in 1910.

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The Cape (left) was the British Empire's first African Dominion and the first to feature racial equality as a part of its constitution. Canada (right, flag shown introduced in 1895) would follow suit ahead of the many other dominions but it would still take more than a decade before the Canadian People's Act passed through Parliament.


Extract from: The Kings and Queens of the Empire, Published 1980
By: Winston Churchill III


...the first real blow for Great Britain came in July 1894 with the sudden death of the Prince of Wales. Over the past two years, the drinking and smoking of the popular, seemingly healthy Prince had accelerated to unseen levels. The cause of this chaos was undoubtedly his son and heir Prince Albert Victor. By all accounts Albert was something of a disinterested sort as a boy; never caring for his potential future role and shirking his responsibilities as princeling. That had all changed, however, at his marriage to the young and beautiful Lady Sybil Mary St Clair Eskine, or simply Princess Sybil. The daugher of a mere earl, both Queen Victoria and Albert’s father had opposed the marriage firmly however the genuine popularity of Lady Sybil and the stubbornness of the Prince led to their marriage in 1893. Just 16, Sybil was in many ways much more of a thinker than her husband. A poet, philosopher and social progressive, Lady Sybil engaged the young prince in the political sphere and by the time of Albert’s ascension, she was well established as the People’s Princess. She converted Albert to her philosophical, more forward thinking ways and his personality underwent a significant shift over her courtship and their marriage. Their first child, a son, was born mere weeks before the death of Albert’s father and was named Arthur William Edward, something of a break from the norm and undoubtedly the choice of Princess Sybil.

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The people's princess, an undeniable beauty.

The constant bickering between the young couple and the Prince of Wales was the worst kept secret in Britain and whether it was the stress, the smoking or the alcohol (most likely a combination of all three) it was simply too much for the Prince, who passed away on the 6th July 1894. Albert Edward was a popular and relatively modern man, known for his progressive racial views and his status as the Uncle of Europe his death therefore sent ripples through the state and his mother, Queen Victoria (who had never truly recovered from the death of her husband) died but a few months later, on Christmas Day 1894.Her long reign saw Britain’s Golden Age as an undisputed power and following it the country mourned for weeks. In the wake of this chaos was the new king; Albert Victor. The new British royal couple were incredibly young; just 29 and 22, but rode on a wave of modernity and personal popularity that was sweeping the nation and the empire as a whole. Coronated as King Victor I, in blatant tribute to his late grandmother, the Second Victorian Age seemed to be one of unity and progress.

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His Majesty King-Emperor Victor I, By Grace of God, King of Great Britain and Ireland, of Canada, Australasia, the Cape, Westralia and all the Britannic Realms, Emperor of India, Defender of the Faith.



 
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Authors Note: What? No of course I didn't stay up until 3.20 am making this instead of revising for my exams, that'd be craaaaaaaaaaazy. :|

This started as the British and German updates to put them on the world stage but ended up being massive and sweeping and everything is going a little faster than usual so don't worry; more backstory explanation coming soon. Next few updates will cover Japan, the USA, France, Russia, China and, most importantly, Africa.

A lot of this is going to seem a little wacky but Fred nearly survived OTL and Bermann's suggested surgery was real, it was just decided against but here that gets butterflied. Same for South Africa and racial equality, through I sped up the dominion status (which is helped by an independent Boer Republic). Westralia is a little bit rule of cool but I think very much possible. Any questions feel free to ask! :D


Ah, I do recall this Timeline and good to see it rebooted. Quite large effects so far just from the first few years and more to come as well. Does seem like things are happening a bit quickly but should be good to see how it expands once we see more of the world.

Things are a little rushed to start with I admit but they're going to slow down and over the next few updates we'll just be taking a look at the world, circa 1894,

Great to have this back.

Ah thanks, its so great to see so many people remembered the first iteration, this one should be a little more polished. Hope you enjoy!

I didn't realize I needed Imperial Socialism. Now I do.
We all need a little Imperial Socialism, I think.

And just because I'm so nice, attached is the world map, it'll be weird and its imperfect but it should help to understand the scenario:

1894

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Extract from: The Making of the Modern German State, Published 1999
By: Ernst Braun


Friedrich IV is an odd figure in German history; inheriting the throne in 1888 from his father, Kaiser Wilhelm I, he was a liberal man and married to Princess Victoria, the eldest of the Queen of Great Britain’s children. Friedrich and his wife were keen admirers of the British monarchy upon their ascension ruled as Consorts, whilst slowly relegating their own role in German politics. Their liberalism and keen links to the British royal family led to some upset in Germany but they were a popular pair and before long Germany began to follow their example. Some believed that the Kaiser, known for his bold oratory, would lead the German people into a new age. However only three months after his taking of the throne, the Kaiser was diagnoses with a severe case of throat cancer, manifesting in his larynx. Scrambling for treatment for a seemingly incurable illness, the Kaiser turned to Ernst von Bergmann, a doctor who suggested a new but untried method; the total removal of the Kaiser’s voicebox. Whilst controversial and argued against by many of Friedrich's doctors, the procedure would indeed save his life however the Emperor was left without a voice box. His popular dubbing in the British and later world press as Mute Fred was more a token of sympathy and a jovial nickname than anything biting.


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Modern and popular, the new Kaiser had many ambitions despite his muteness.


Despite his disability, the now healthy Kaiser threw himself into the ruling of the German Empire and its reform. With the Reichstag Bill of 1890, Friedrich and his government reformed Germany into a true constitutional monarchy with universal male suffrage and a fairer electoral system. The Bill was radical and unpopular with many, including Bismark and the resultant falling out between the two men would divide German politics in the coming decades. Leaning on the mainstream opposition National Liberal Party as well as the German Freethinkers Party (known as the Progressives) who had begun to adopt Fabian-style views. Bismark lost his majority in the Reichstag to this new, Kaiser backed coalition and Eugen Richter would become Chancellor of the German Empire...

Friedrich IV is an odd figure in German history

I assume you mean Frederich III, not Frederich IV....

But a good Fredercik who survives, is generally a good German Empire.
 
So we've had huge sweeping changes with the Dominions already, interesting to note the South African part, will save a few headaches down the line although that leaves the question of what the Boer Republic's going to be like further down the line. Also, Winston Churchill III? eems like thename's going to have even more value than OTL.
 
In its own way it seems to me that Australasia will be defending Westralia, at least for a while. I mean, it has the benefit of population and resources that Westralia does not.
 
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