Still don't see the UASR keeping thier name on such an important complex for international communism. What about the Fredrick Engels Plaza or the American COMECON Plaza?
The Great Crusade (Reds! Part 3)
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Total slip on my part.
I wrote the top stuff like preceding agency, location, etc. and then went back to fill in the content. I had intended to change the name, I just put down Rockefeller Plaza to remind me, physically, of what I was renaming.
I just ended up forgetting hehe
Oh ok sorry. I hope that I helped if you had not chosen a name though. Again 1 World Revolution Plaza is amazing for the Commerce Complex of TTL.
I'm actually a fan of renaming it to the Karl Marx Center, because it's now the headquarters of international communist economic organization.
I thought that too at first but I figured something else would be named after him in the capital and thought that Engels deserved something important named after him.
The headquarters of COMECON just seems particularly strong as a place to name after Marx. I'm sure Engels won't lose out in terms of major buildings. Especially since I'm sure plenty of university buildings and confederate landmarks are probably going to be renamed after the revolution.
Made a 1936 map for Reds! for something I'm working on Paradox Plaza.
I figured that America's pacific Island territories would be gobbled up by Japan, France and Britain in the midst of the Chaos; though I can't help but wonder if perhaps France or Japan would have wanted the Philippines more than Britain.
The latin American countries are dark red since I'd think that the Latin Confederation would be formed at this point.
Also until I saw the base map I recoloured; I didn't know France had some islands right in front of Canada.
Henry Ford the Arch-Traitor Part 1 by Red Star Rising
Henry Ford the Arch-Traitor
Editorial from The Guardian, 2014
Out of all the expatriates who fled the American Red Revolution; none are more despised, more loathed, more iconic as a symbol of betrayal than Henry Ford. To the point that to this very day; to call a person a Ford is to call them a traitor of a most grievous sort and the surname has become deeply unpopular. But before he became the Fuhrer's deputy minister of armaments and the architect of fascist Europe's war industries; Ford was mostly known for making cars with the ideal being to make them cheap enough for the middle class to own their own. His famous model T car is arguably one of the first icons of mass production to enter the public consciousness; with each part being built according to a standardized assembly line. This ensured interchangeability of parts, ease of production, and the standardization of skillsets for manufacture. These skills; honed in the dying decades of American capitalism, were to soon serve a far darker purpose.
Noted for his virulent anti-semitism and racism and his vehement opposition to any sort of socialism or trade unionism (with his famous five dollar wages being meant to effectively bribe workers into not joining unions), it was perhaps of little surprise that Ford took the electoral successes of the Worker's communist party with a great deal of consternation. As the American communists' electoral campaign went on, he began to transfer assets out of the country for fear of their electoral victory and what it would mean for the business empire he created. Though his first target was Britain; he took interest in the German National Socialist party and its own rise to power; finding himself agreeing with many of its platforms and taking a liking to Hitler himself.
"Should America fall to the iron grip of Judeo-Bolshevism, I feel that this man (Hitler); should he prevent Germany from falling to communism's scourge; could very well be civilization's salvation from the red menace of Zion." Henry Ford wrote in his private journal concerning the leader of the Nazi party as the Worker's Communist Party's campaign swept through America in the lead up to the general elections of 1932. This lead to him (among other American industrialists enamored of fascism) to start investing in Germany and offering whatever legal support they could to the German movement. And thanks to his movements when he started to see the first leaks in the American ships, Ford was well positioned to flee to a safe distance before the red vise could close off his escape or the withdrawal of much of his assets. Though he stayed in Britain for a few months, he would soon move into Hitler's newborn third reich; determining that the Nazi party would be the best vehicle for his ambitions.
Henry Ford would be granted honorary citizenship by the third reich; which was all too glad to accept whatever capital flight it could from the Americas and Ford was surely the richest catch. A catch so rich that Hitler made him his deputy minister of armaments and gave him a great deal of access to the German economy to help make it more efficient for the purposes of waging war; working in tandem with German industrialists and his superior; Albert Speer. German Industry would become increasingly well suited to waging massive war; and with tensions between western Europe and America in full swing in the 30s, the increasing militarization of Germany and other fascist states such as Italy and Hungary went by with at worst; feeble scolding from the nations of western Europe; and the alarm bells sounded by the communist states went ignored as ever by the growing fascist bloc.
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Editorial from The Guardian, 2014
Out of all the expatriates who fled the American Red Revolution; none are more despised, more loathed, more iconic as a symbol of betrayal than Henry Ford. To the point that to this very day; to call a person a Ford is to call them a traitor of a most grievous sort and the surname has become deeply unpopular. But before he became the Fuhrer's deputy minister of armaments and the architect of fascist Europe's war industries; Ford was mostly known for making cars with the ideal being to make them cheap enough for the middle class to own their own. His famous model T car is arguably one of the first icons of mass production to enter the public consciousness; with each part being built according to a standardized assembly line. This ensured interchangeability of parts, ease of production, and the standardization of skillsets for manufacture. These skills; honed in the dying decades of American capitalism, were to soon serve a far darker purpose.
Noted for his virulent anti-semitism and racism and his vehement opposition to any sort of socialism or trade unionism (with his famous five dollar wages being meant to effectively bribe workers into not joining unions), it was perhaps of little surprise that Ford took the electoral successes of the Worker's communist party with a great deal of consternation. As the American communists' electoral campaign went on, he began to transfer assets out of the country for fear of their electoral victory and what it would mean for the business empire he created. Though his first target was Britain; he took interest in the German National Socialist party and its own rise to power; finding himself agreeing with many of its platforms and taking a liking to Hitler himself.
"Should America fall to the iron grip of Judeo-Bolshevism, I feel that this man (Hitler); should he prevent Germany from falling to communism's scourge; could very well be civilization's salvation from the red menace of Zion." Henry Ford wrote in his private journal concerning the leader of the Nazi party as the Worker's Communist Party's campaign swept through America in the lead up to the general elections of 1932. This lead to him (among other American industrialists enamored of fascism) to start investing in Germany and offering whatever legal support they could to the German movement. And thanks to his movements when he started to see the first leaks in the American ships, Ford was well positioned to flee to a safe distance before the red vise could close off his escape or the withdrawal of much of his assets. Though he stayed in Britain for a few months, he would soon move into Hitler's newborn third reich; determining that the Nazi party would be the best vehicle for his ambitions.
Henry Ford would be granted honorary citizenship by the third reich; which was all too glad to accept whatever capital flight it could from the Americas and Ford was surely the richest catch. A catch so rich that Hitler made him his deputy minister of armaments and gave him a great deal of access to the German economy to help make it more efficient for the purposes of waging war; working in tandem with German industrialists and his superior; Albert Speer. German Industry would become increasingly well suited to waging massive war; and with tensions between western Europe and America in full swing in the 30s, the increasing militarization of Germany and other fascist states such as Italy and Hungary went by with at worst; feeble scolding from the nations of western Europe; and the alarm bells sounded by the communist states went ignored as ever by the growing fascist bloc.
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I wonder what Ford's reaction to the Holocaust will be. Even as an anti-Semitic, I think even he would be horrified, and maybe regret ever deciding to work with the Germans.
Spending more than a decade of his life surrounded by the Nazis is likely to change some of his outlooks for the worse. I'd also imagine that the Red revolution may harden many of his views as well. Though even if he has a change of heart; he's not really going to have an easy way out and the hangman's rope or a lifetime in prison is going to be waiting for him at Nuremburg.
Speaking of which,is there any Vlasov analogue of the UASR?Maybe some Cubans might volunteer for the Waffen-SS.
Been following this,very great timeline.
Been following this,very great timeline.
I imagine that Cuba would at least volunteer the equivalent of the blue division for Germany's services; and it has been noted that Germany has given some American expats who favored it over the empires of western europe or Cuba some vague promises of a cushy place in Germany's new America.
Once Hitler does his sudden but inevitable betrayal of the liberal nations; any American volunteers who aren't already from the American-German population are probably going to stop coming.
I don't know. The True Democrats and the MacArthur government both got petty crazy over the course of the civil war. With MacArthur having turned not even questionably fascist. When Hitler makes his betrayal a lot of those true believers might keep coming.
Although they'd definately face a harder time of it. Maybe refocusing their efforts on getting to Brazil since then they don't have to evade the worlds two most powerful navies to fight for the Reich.
I doubt that would work. The man was well known for his attention to detail. OTL when he built jeeps for the Army during WWII he went so far as to have his logo engraved on every part his factories made all the way down to the bolts & screws so he wouldn't be "forced" into making spare parts for his competitors. I doubt anyone would believe any claims of ignorance.
Given how Speer and him are buddies that would make sense. But I doubt it would work. Ford will probably hang at Nuremberg. No way his actions as Armaments minister didn't involve quite a bit of slave labor and crimes against humanity.
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