The Great Crusade (Reds! Part 3)

E. Burke

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From what I understand Slavoj Zizek thinks that the Left should be invested in constructing popular ideas of alternate history, as part of his whole argument that the cultural political fight for a revolution is in part creating the idea of what an alternative would mean.

And I've found that the political cults are marginal and fringe in my exposure to them. Like, the cults are far less common than the whinging discussion groups who do nothing but talk about their selected Marxist inspirations. I'm a member of Socialist Alternative, I think we're generally more focused on really trying to create change, and I still think we spend most of our time blabbering.

I'm also of the opinion though that the left needs strong organization in order to actually carry through any kind of political struggle for a real societal transformation, and I was under the impression IP was an Impossibilist.

I stayed at a Socialist Alternative Philly member's house about a weekend or 2 ago. It was interesting. I disagreed with them, but SAlt has working class ties that make it better than some other Trol groups.
 

E. Burke

Banned
Socialist Alternative is one of the nicer socialist groups overall. They aren't as much assholes as some other groups I can mention. That sucks cause I like being an asshole, in the jokey kind of way.
 
I stayed at a Socialist Alternative Philly member's house about a weekend or 2 ago. It was interesting. I disagreed with them, but SAlt has working class ties that make it better than some other Trol groups.

Was he Zachary Flaughter? He's a good friend who's in that Branch.

Socialist Alternative is one of the nicer socialist groups overall. They aren't as much assholes as some other groups I can mention. That sucks cause I like being an asshole, in the jokey kind of way.

They won me over to actually calling myself a Trotskyist, which was a lot of work on their part. So I'm impressed with them. And ISO (our closest equal) are just really creepy in their whole organizational structure.
 

E. Burke

Banned
Was he Zachary Flaughter? He's a good friend who's in that Branch.

No, I'm not going to say names but it wasn't him.

They won me over to actually calling myself a Trotskyist, which was a lot of work on their part. So I'm impressed with them. And ISO (our closest equal) are just really creepy in their whole organizational structure.
And the rape. That is really creepy.
 
So, back to the timeline:

In the original "A Red Dawn" thread, there were segments which touched upon analogues to the Tennessee Valley Authority, as well as railway construction and new urban developments.

One specific alternate project I have in mind is the 2nd Avenue Subway in New York City. IOTL, this line was originally planned all the way back in the 1920's, but has been repeatedly delayed, cancelled and re-started ever since due to a variety of factors, and only now is it actually being constructed.

ITTL, I'm thinking of having the 2nd avenue line start construction during the post-revolution recovery, with a constructivist style in contrast to the neo-classical design of Moscow's subway.

Thoughts?
 
Sorry that was a stupid and kind of rude question.

No, it's ok. I'm just saying that you just have be careful in doing activist works and of people, sometimes they can be rather obvious, that are pretty much informants or police agents. But even more so to be worried about is the turn of the group towards dogma rather than pragmatism in the spirit of resisting. Direct action in the spirit of civil disobedience is better to get people than some Black Bloc activity, though that can be done as a last resort.

Just my opinion. I wish you the best in you and your group's activities. :)
 
So, back to the timeline:

In the original "A Red Dawn" thread, there were segments which touched upon analogues to the Tennessee Valley Authority, as well as railway construction and new urban developments.

One specific alternate project I have in mind is the 2nd Avenue Subway in New York City. IOTL, this line was originally planned all the way back in the 1920's, but has been repeatedly delayed, cancelled and re-started ever since due to a variety of factors, and only now is it actually being constructed.

ITTL, I'm thinking of having the 2nd avenue line start construction during the post-revolution recovery, with a constructivist style in contrast to the neo-classical design of Moscow's subway.

Thoughts?

I'm not a New Yorker so I can only imagine a very high tech looking NYC by 2015 of TTL! :) A lot of OTL projects that were continuously postponed or delayed were most probably being built earlier and finished earlier ITTL.
 
What is the status of consumerism culture in the UASR? Wouldn't such a culture thrive after WWII, until at least the green revolution? And speaking of that, what is the status of private cars? Would they be phased out in favor of public transportation, the UASR developing a very efficient public transportation, especially in major cities.
 
Just wanted to post this here. There was a piece on Captain America that I wrote on the fanfic thread, that I wanted to post here. Should I just post the link, or should I send it to Jello on PM?
 
Just wanted to post this here. There was a piece on Captain America that I wrote on the fanfic thread, that I wanted to post here. Should I just post the link, or should I send it to Jello on PM?
I suggest you send it to Jello as an PM to see if she's ok with the post being canon and if she is than you post it here.
 

bookmark95

Banned
You know what would be interesting:

A fanfic where a person from the "Reds" universe ended up in modern America. I wonder how he or she would feel about a capitalist, somewhat conservative USA.
 
You know what would be interesting:

A fanfic where a person from the "Reds" universe ended up in modern America. I wonder how he or she would feel about a capitalist, somewhat conservative USA.
I wouldn't want them to be stuck in modern America by any means. That'd be just awful for them. Probably just a visit for a day.
 
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You can do that with a visit.

Having them be stuck in America would probably result in severe depression/suicide.

I disagree. They would be more likely to start a revolution against those institutions. This would have been an interesting plot for TTL Captain America. Instead of freezing until modern-day ITTL he is transported to OTL. But an average joe works just as well too.
 

E. Burke

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I disagree. They would be more likely to start a revolution against those institutions. This would have been an interesting plot for TTL Captain America. Instead of freezing until modern-day ITTL he is transported to OTL. But an average joe works just as well too.

I had the exact opposite idea (OTL Cap wakes up in the UASR)
 
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