Discussion in 'Alternate History Books and Media' started by DanielXie, Nov 28, 2019.
Inspired by various reddit posts on this topic, what's your personal Kaiserreich headcanon?
Mine is that the CSA and PSA win the ACW, France falls to Germany but not the UoB which signs the Second peace with honour, but Blair coups the Maximists and the Autonomists take power.
The French Kingdom becomes a rump state in Senegal before (white) Republicans coup it and it stays an apartheid state. Savinkov is defeated and Russia is nuked, unfortunately.
The Bharatiya Commune under Nehru takes over India.
The Mittelafrika collapse always happens in my handcannon and a Ethiopian-Somali Cold War
Mosley's motto is "England Prevails!" and his regime is equal parts 1984 and V for Vendetta.
Sand France implodes into nationalist revolt when they try and fail to capitalize on the 2WK.
Red America wins the 2ACW and Comrade Flynn wins the constitutional convention, forming the Commonwealth of America and instituting radical democracy.
Yeah, this is mine too
what happens to red France and the British loyalist?
I can't choose between CommieNazi Sorellian France getting crushed by Germany, or Nestor Makhno bravely leading the Commune into the anarchist future.
British loyalists are crushed like a grape except for Australasia (where they are mostly unobtrusive) and South Africa (where they aren't really loyal).
Well, my current game involves a submod, if anyone would like to hear it. It's also barely started, too
so does the Australasia guard take over and new Zeland starts a crises?
Savinkov wins in Russia and forges alliance with Codreanu called "Pact of Steel". Mosley takes over Britain and introduces 1984-esque Totalism. Jacobins take over France and go full Stalin. Belarus is annexed by Russia similar to how Austria was by Germany. Don-Kuban union is crushed after Black Monday. Ukraine plays role of Czechoslovakia, with Munich conference handing over eastern parts of country to Russia by Germans concerned about their colonial wars and rising Internationale threat. Spanish civil war is won by syndicalists with Anglo-French aid. RSI goes Totalist with Mussolini in power. SACW ends in CSA victory with Earl Browder taking over country. Second Weltkrieg begins with Romandy crisis and is close to stalemate at the beginning. Mosley decides to do "deal with the Devil" and makes pact with Savinkov. Pact of Steel's force rush West and take over entirety of Ukraine. UBD is annexed to Russia. Savinkov also restores Russian rule to central Asia. In Poland, regency council is overthrown by nationalists, who join Pact of Steel and help Savinkov and Codreanu. Habsburgs are defeated, with Codreanu creating "Great Romania", Galizia being divided by Poland and Russia, Slovakia becoming a puppet natpop republic under Tiso, Bulgaria bows down to the victorious Savinkov, with pro-Russian natpop general Hristo Lukov taking reins of the country and creating ITTL "Yugoslavia" out of orthodox Southern Slavic states. Illyria becomes "Croatian State" under Ustase. Communards with newly acquired American help end stalemate and rush into Germany. The Internationale forces meet with those of Pact of Steel at Elbe. Poland loses Białystok area, but is given southern half of East Prussia, whole Silesia, Pomerania and German lands up to the Elbe (unlike Stalin, Savinkov won't care about Germans being on his side, but he would care about taking whole Russian areas and restoring Slavs to their former glory - and Savinkov was also a polonophile, so he would try to compensate Poles losses in the east by giving them formerly Slavic land in the west). Bohemia is released as a Bohemian state. Western Germany joins internationale. Kaiser goes into exile to Mittelafrika. Remnants of Entente and German Empire team up with Japan to reclaim their lost homelands. @Jan Olbracht
I don't like moving away from the cannon for the early years of the game, like having codreanu assassinated or a fourth faction winning the us civil war.
My cannon is that Long win the SACW in 1939, the Balkan league defeats Bulgaria in 38, the labourists win in France while Moseley wins in UK and the Christian left wins in Italy. Vargas is elected in Brazil and creates the new state, while there is no war between mittelafrika and Portugal, while the CEO of racism Goering is removed. During the second weltkrieg the free French and Canadians land in the south while the Internationale front collapses in mid 1943, but any attempts to invade the UoB from Germany or the entente fail so they sign a peace isolating Britain, giving it the North Korea effect of being isolated and strengthening Moseley totalitarian dictatorship. Long retires in 1952 and the USA democratises into a populist democracy. The German empire modernized the sonnderweg system in the 1960s expanding voting rights, while the Kaiser still keep his powers to serve as a brake for the parliament.
On Asia the Qing eventually annex the warlords and go to war with the Japanese, eventually resulting on a wing victory by Japan keeps Formosa and eventually integrates it as a province and give voting rights and a parliamentary representation in Tokyo for them.
Oh, Carles rules until his death in 1946 and manages to have Chile, bolivia and Paraguay as his puppets, while allyo g with Peru under Oscar Benevides, vir he does not invade Brazil since it is aligned with the USA.
And Paulus gets encircled on the beginning of the second weltkrieg, because if it is a WWII scenario we need to have a encircled Paulus, that is a tradition.
Unlikely to happen and in the setting sun event Japan gives Taiwan to The players Chinese faction as well as no Chinese nationalist will except that
The thing is that China cannot invade Taiwan, they simply cannot. When the setting sun event happens the Chinese only could take Taiwan if they control it.
International goes full totalist. Savinkov takes over in Russia. Letow-Vorbek becomes german chancellor. Reed becomes president with razor-thin majority. Austria goes status quo. Reform in Mittelafrika.
Two-phase 2ACW. First CSA defeats McA and AUS, have chease-fire with PSA. Then second phase, after WKII started: PSA, New England and Canada vs CSA. CSA finally wins in 1941, but got more radicalized and goes totalist under Foster.
WKII starts in 1939, because Mosley and the Jacobins fear they can´t keep up much longer in the arms race with Germany. Entente and Austria join Germany. Savinkov would like to supporrt the International, but is stuck in a land war in Asia. He makes a deal with Germany to get free hand in the Caucasus and ironicly Russia and Germany becomes sort of allies against Japan (which attacked GEA in 1939).
Commune and SRI collapse in 1941, French Republic joins Reichspakt. UOB falls in 1942.
SPD wins upset victory in german elections. British Republic established, Paneuropa with Europarat formed. War against Japan ends in 1945, after Germany drop nuke. Japan reduced on Home islands. China divided between russian-allied Quing in the North and ROC in the South.
1947 liberal-conservative coallation in Germany. Begin of economic boom in Paneuropa.
There are 3 power-blocs in 1956. German-dominated Paneuropa, the Russian State and his asian allies and the USAS, which controlls North America and have Indochina and Chile as allies.
In the rework it gives to you if you beat Japan by the setting sun event by kicking them out of Korea
On my head cannon China got a puppet in Korea, but still there is no reason for Japan to give them Formosa since China cannot invade it. It is ASB.
During the peace conference maybe By holding Korea you directly threatens to home islands and you can probably convince the remaining Meiji oligarchs that going on to the mainland is a bad idea
Yes, but how you will take Taiwan without a navy?
I think that the only way is through the air...
Transports and you don't need a Armed Navy once they sign it over to you. You can do the rest of your navy later using captured ship Center can get. Also during the game it's a good idea to build convoys so you'll already have a bunch of transports by that time
I take it that Wu Peifu decides to side with Chen Tiaoyuan instead of Qi Xieyuan in this scenario?
What flavor of Republic of China? Left-KMT, Right-KMT, or Federalists?
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