I think Stalin stay in the seminar and become a priest..dunno about hitler honestly
...and promptly re-enslaved half of it, that being his intention the whole time.
I seriously can't believe you honestly believe something as blatantly false as this.
Rebuilding Eastern Europe and getting it rid of concentration camps sure sounds like slavery to me.
www.telegraph.co.uk
www.counterpunch.org
...please tell me you're kidding. Eastern Europe was rebuilt into Soviet-controlled communist dictatorships with their own terror apparatus. In fact, some of the Nazi concentration camps were re-opened under Soviet control!
Some of them can be said to be dictatorships, but even those dictatorships improved the living conditions of people and were a far cry from the genocidal Nazi occupations or puppet regimes they were under. You cannot compare Eastern Europe during the Cold War with Eastern Europe during WWII, especially when, you know, the former was at peace and not suffering from the bloodiest war in history. Also, even if what you say about the camps is true, fact is that none of these regimes did anything close to the Holocaust, even in comparison to the extent of the Holocaust in their respective countries (for instance, Communist Poland killed nowhere near Auschwitz).
And the fact that this rebuilding of Eastern Europe started with massive ethnic cleansing also says nothing negative about Stalinism? NKVD camps are Western propaganda for sure? Just like Soviet tanks in Budapest and Prague?
The part about the "ethnic cleansing" is definitely propaganda. Refugee resettlements are not ethnic cleansing, and it was nowhere near what the Nazis did either. Also, stop bringing red herrings. I never denied Stalin did horrible things, I even explicitly said so above. The point is he is nowhere near Hitler. Even the NKVD and tanks in Hungary and Czechoslovakia are nowhere near the crimes the Nazis committed. Heck, the latter two only led to a few hundred deaths. Horrible, but there are worse things done under Latin American juntas and dictatorships or even in places like Spain and even Northern Ireland with the Troubles (where the death toll seems to be as high as 60,000 during the Cold War). Even Plan Condor makes Stalin's secret police look like peace corps, even though the NKVD was certainly horrific.
Exactly, putting a modern ethics frame on a different time doesn't work.
Numbers aside, both had little regard for those not in their favor, everyone seems to write history and paint a slightly different picture, so once we get above a certain number it really is a mute point.
