Yup, the English will be a big player in the Caribbean, along with the Spanish, Dutch and Scandinavians. The French won't be a major Caribbean player due to their colony in Brazil. As for the slave trade, Britain has already begun to establish its own forts in West Africa, and France will soon do the same, though I'm sure both will buy from the Portuguese to an extent.Things are getting interesting indeed... Britain getting more of the Caribbean this early is good for the nascent British colonial empire.
I wonder how the Portuguese would interact with the British and French. Both are good customers of their slaves in Angola and Mosambique (and France is even more horrifying than otl) so things would be interesting.
My plans as of now are for the English to become the premier power in the East Indies, along with holding some colonies in India (though not to the same extent as IOTL). The Dutch will mainly focus on India ITTL, though they'll likely have some presence in Southeast Asia. One idea I have is for the Dutch to eventually dominate the Bengal region. A Dutch Bangladesh makes too much sense for me to not at least think about it.So the English get into Asia earlier than OTL? Will be interesting to see how Asia develops and how it could potentially impact even Japan and China.
English Indonesia eh?My plans as of now are for the English to become the premier power in the East Indies, along with holding some colonies in India (though not to the same extent as IOTL). The Dutch will mainly focus on India ITTL, though they'll likely have some presence in Southeast Asia. One idea I have is for the Dutch to eventually dominate the Bengal region. A Dutch Bangladesh makes too much sense for me to not at least think about it.
Would they have their OTL possessions in Malaya and North Borneo as well?That's the plan.
Ooh this will be very interesting...My plans as of now are for the English to become the premier power in the East Indies, along with holding some colonies in India (though not to the same extent as IOTL). The Dutch will mainly focus on India ITTL, though they'll likely have some presence in Southeast Asia. One idea I have is for the Dutch to eventually dominate the Bengal region. A Dutch Bangladesh makes too much sense for me to not at least think about it.
IIRC South Africa was pretty denuded of people when the Europeans first arrived due to their diseases having a similar effect on Sub-Saharan peoples as it did in America, if to a lesser extent.I'm trying to work out what the racial situation in English/British South Africa will be down the line. I don't think the strict Black/White binary that developed IOTL's U.S. is workable in South Africa, where at the very least the Khoisan and Bantu populations will be considered separate (not to mention the further subdivisions within those populations). I could very well see a division in status between native Africans who speak English (especially if it's their first language) and those who don't. That's not even getting into whether a mixed race group similar to the Cape Coloureds will exist ITTL's South Africa. I'm sure some mixed race groups like the Griqua or Basters will develop on the frontier, but the much larger influx of settlers into the Cape means that any mixed offspring of the settlers and the Khoisan may just be assimilated into the Anglo-African population, leaving a small trace of Khoisan blood in the typical Anglo-African (as well as Indian and Southeast Asian blood coming from the native wives of ECI employees). While the average Anglo-African will still be of overwhelmingly European (mainly British) ancestry, they'll likely average around 5% non-European DNA, similar to OTL's Afrikaners. Still, I'd like to hear your input on the matter. The update will be coming soon.
I also think that, unfortunately, there would be an genocide of many Sub-Saharan Africans in South Africa if the English colonize it in the early 17th century which would also lead to a white majority population in many parts of South Africa. So I’m thinking it is possible that something akin to the black/white binary in the Southern USA develops in an English South Africa too. Heck it developed in states with black majorities so it wouldn’t be impossible here for such binary to occur.IIRC South Africa was pretty denuded of people when the Europeans first arrived due to their diseases having a similar effect on Sub-Saharan peoples as it did in America, if to a lesser extent.
Add that to England's sheer population and yeah it's quite likely there will be quite a large area of South Africa that has a majority white population. Something like OTL Brazil is most likely for how the racial makeup and mixing would work IMO.
I doubt it would be genocide in the form of extermination but ethnic cleansing by white settlers driving them north? The Anglo settlers are infamous for that.I also think that, unfortunately, there would be an genocide of many Sub-Saharan Africans in South Africa if the English colonize it in the early 17th century which would also lead to a white majority population in many parts of South Africa. So I’m thinking it is possible that something akin to the black/white binary in the Southern USA develops in an English South Africa too. Heck it developed in states with black majorities so it wouldn’t be impossible here for such binary to occur.
I think a combination of ethnic cleansing and disease (and rinderpest killing off most of the cows the bantu and Khoisan would use) would cause a lot of British south Africa to be white majority at the very least, and allow them to create a much larger state than otl south Africa.I doubt it would be genocide in the form of extermination but ethnic cleansing by white settlers driving them north? The Anglo settlers are infamous for that.
I agree. I expect white majority South Africa to stretch as far north as Namibia, Botswana, Zimbabwe and parts of Mozambique, Zambia, and Angola.I think a combination of ethnic cleansing and disease (and rinderpest killing off most of the cows the bantu and Khoisan would use) would cause a lot of British south Africa to be white majority at the very least, and allow them to create a much larger state than otl south Africa.
Same. I expect them to get to the fertile Highlands where the Brits could farm properly, and the Bantu groups be pushed out as the settlers pour in from Britain/have a lot of children.I agree. I expect white majority South Africa to stretch as far north as Namibia, Botswana, Zimbabwe and parts of Mozambique, Zambia, and Angola.
Speaking of Shaka Zulu, one big question regarding South Africa is whether something like the Mfecane will occur ITTL. The destruction and chaos caused by the inter-Bantu wars of the early-mid 19th Century greatly increased the ease with which white settlers could conquer the eastern part of South Africa, and without it the Bantu nations could put up much stiffer resistance to the expansion of the colony.Same. I expect them to get to the fertile Highlands where the Brits could farm properly, and the Bantu groups be pushed out as the settlers pour in from Britain/have a lot of children.
The settlers starting as being cattle herders who farmed when they could would make sense, and they would be a lot more adept at farming than the Bantus who're still learning, which would be swamped/displaced. Also would ostrich farming be done earlier than otl? Maybe we get albino/piebald ostriches ittl?
I think the southern Bantus being pushed into the Kongo would have great consequences. Imagine roving bands getting into the forest and mucking about. Perhaps we'd get ittl's version of Shaka Zulu in the forest. That's horrifying asf.