The Way the Wind Blows: The Collapse of Western Capitalism and the Second Cold War
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On Christopher, if it is that Christopher, if you want to pop the balloon of "I'm 16, I discovered an idea and now know everything, and screw the establishment because he has the real answers", listen to him discuss Trotsky. Listen to him blast anyone who was slightly cross-eyed on their beliefs or ideology, while then defending every sin Trotsky ever committed as perfectly fine and acceptable without an ounce of a sense of hypocrisy or irony. That gets to the bedrock of his flaws as an ideologue, and that he is not immune to criticism, and not the purer messiah. Ironically, just like Trotsky. We all look for the person that points out the bad of the world, and is the one person without that bad inside them to show the way and teach. And it is ironic, because he idolizes Orwell, and Orwell thought Trotsky was not so pure as he and his supporters like to make him out, and had he been in Stalin's place, he would not be very different.
I believe this is the correct interview.
I believe this is the correct interview.
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I can't recall any TLs which made the late 60s/early 70s a truly revolutionary period for the capitalist world, so this one has my attention. The only other example I can think of was "The Revolution Will Be Live" from now-banned user The Vulture, which took place in these years but had significant PODs stretching back to that TL's WWI.
The title's specific mentioning of Western Capitalism and the Maoism tag makes me wonder just how East Asia will figure into TTL's developments. Perhaps if Mao's China also sees these new British and Italian revolutionaries as REVISIONIST RUNNING DOGS, the Second Cold War will go into a three-way mode to an extent which just didn't happen IOTL. Would also be cool to see mention of how Japan and South Korea and Taiwan are affected in addition to the PRC, North Korea and of course Vietnam.
Well, assuming this Second Cold War is between a Trotskyist/Gramscian/New-Left West against the Leninist Eastern Bloc, it's still possible to envision the USSR breaking apart. If the New-Left West has America on its side and continues to have a greater economic advantage, the economic/political pressure placed on the OTL Warsaw Pact will continue. Seems most of the British revolutionaries mentioned so far are certainly vocal about their distaste for the Soviet model, something which must be happening in Italy and possibly America as well.
The title's specific mentioning of Western Capitalism and the Maoism tag makes me wonder just how East Asia will figure into TTL's developments. Perhaps if Mao's China also sees these new British and Italian revolutionaries as REVISIONIST RUNNING DOGS, the Second Cold War will go into a three-way mode to an extent which just didn't happen IOTL. Would also be cool to see mention of how Japan and South Korea and Taiwan are affected in addition to the PRC, North Korea and of course Vietnam.
Well, assuming this Second Cold War is between a Trotskyist/Gramscian/New-Left West against the Leninist Eastern Bloc, it's still possible to envision the USSR breaking apart. If the New-Left West has America on its side and continues to have a greater economic advantage, the economic/political pressure placed on the OTL Warsaw Pact will continue. Seems most of the British revolutionaries mentioned so far are certainly vocal about their distaste for the Soviet model, something which must be happening in Italy and possibly America as well.
Whoa... Cold war between new left and USSR..
How I really want to see how north korea, a juche country, south korea, a staunch anti-communist country, react...
How I really want to see how north korea, a juche country, south korea, a staunch anti-communist country, react...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxsSEwsn5-Y&ved=0ahUKEwiejO3XyMHVAhXkr1QKHdWaCQwQwqsBCCcwAA&usg=AFQjCNEfAj4Y8GcfYqMXU1A4zrpRGizkxwSome of the stuff I've found doing research for this is really out there.
Also by god how does anyone understand the history of US Trotskyism.
If you want to see Hitchens as a moderator, which indicates something in terms of exercise of political authority:
I haven't seen that many acronyms since the New Deal. *ba dum tish*Some of the stuff I've found doing research for this is really out there.
Also by god how does anyone understand the history of US Trotskyism.
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Also, I think the USA will keep fighting and turning more and more fascistic for several years. If you thought COINTELPRO and the suppression of the Black Panthers was bad IRL, imagine now.
Although I don't doubt that eventually the BPP can form a coalition with other parties and establish a socialist republic in North America.
Although I don't doubt that eventually the BPP can form a coalition with other parties and establish a socialist republic in North America.
This looks rather interdasting! I wonder what happens with Yugoslavia in this time.
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