The Union Forever: A TL

I can see Persia allying with the Technate to divvy up India and secure its eastern flank. They probably are looking to expand their influence west, but not with uncertainty to the east.

Eh. The Technate's ideology is hostile to pretty much all of the other power blocs, especially the conservative ones. An alliance of convenience would be one thing, but an actual alliance... I couldn't see that happening, as if the Technocrats continue to expand, well, Persia would be right on the warpath, especially if the IEF falls as well. ...Granted, they are allied with West Africa, last I checked. I wonder if West Africa trying to annex Guinea-Bissau and Liberia might trigger a world wide war.

Also, a question for Mac: has there been any desire for Britain to start divesting some of its island territories or having them reassigned to their major components of the Commonwealth? I'm particularly thinking of the Andamans, the Seychelles, the Pacific islands, and other similar to those.
 
Wasn't there like a big war between the Indian Republic and CSAS?

And between India and Persia, and India and China, and India and the rest of the Commonwealth. With India's previous defeat and the instability of the IEF, though, nearby powers are more threatening than CSAS is.
 
I was scratching my head as to why France and Italy were so large then I remembered the metropole stretched to Africa in those nations now :p

Indeed. France, Italy, and now Germany have a single large African holding that has been fully incorporated into the nation. This gives them a much larger population than OTL.
 
Is Nepal in the Technate's sphere of influence or the IEF's?

Nepal, believe it or not, has actually been pretty neutral. It use to been in Britain's sphere of influence before India became independent. The great power blocs have over the past two decades considered it a buffer state. However the Technate in recent years has been stepping up add to Krulikist dissidents.
 
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Indeed. France, Italy, and now Germany have a single large African holding that has been fully incorporated into the nation. This gives them a much larger population than OTL.
So the Libyan/Algerian Arabs and Black Africans in Cameroon are full citizens of their mother countries? Enlightened, though I'd assume there are liberation movements still active
 
I'm curious as to why the Indian Republic isn't a member of the CSAS. With the Technate surrounding them to the north and east and Persia's allies to the west, I'd think they'd want the defensive assistance

Likely the nationalists not wanting to go crawling to the people they fought for help.

I think that the Indian Republic has actually been in negotiations with Madras to normalize relations in the past decade or so, if I remember this correctly. And this has been occurring due to the encroaching influence of the Technates more than Persia.

So, yeah, between the three sides, I think they'd rather throw in with the CSAS than the other two. And Madras certainly doesn't want India to fall in with the Technate (Persia isn't as much of an ideological threat) so that feeling would be mutual.

I can see Persia allying with the Technate to divvy up India and secure its eastern flank. They probably are looking to expand their influence west, but not with uncertainty to the east.

Eh. The Technate's ideology is hostile to pretty much all of the other power blocs, especially the conservative ones. An alliance of convenience would be one thing, but an actual alliance... I couldn't see that happening, as if the Technocrats continue to expand, well, Persia would be right on the warpath, especially if the IEF falls as well. ...Granted, they are allied with West Africa, last I checked. I wonder if West Africa trying to annex Guinea-Bissau and Liberia might trigger a world wide war.

Also, a question for Mac: has there been any desire for Britain to start divesting some of its island territories or having them reassigned to their major components of the Commonwealth? I'm particularly thinking of the Andamans, the Seychelles, the Pacific islands, and other similar to those.

Wasn't there like a big war between the Indian Republic and CSAS?

And between India and Persia, and India and China, and India and the rest of the Commonwealth. With India's previous defeat and the instability of the IEF, though, nearby powers are more threatening than CSAS is.

That was the United Republic of India. The nation that fought as part of the Calcutta Compact no longer exists


Excellent questions and discussion. Concerning the Indian Republic and the CSAS, while there has been some consideration of India joining there are several reasons it hasn't happened yet. First, we are only 20 years removed from the Asia-Pacific War and the members of CSAS suffered terribly at the hands of the United Republic of India so there is still some bad blood even with a rump democratic India. Second, Madras the unofficial leader of the community doesn't want to see its power diluted by adding a state with a much larger population. Third, India is currently serving as a buffer state between CSAS, Persia, and the Technocratic Union and nobody really wants to upset the balance. Please note that CSAS and Persia aren't very close but do get along well enough. Furthermore, Persia currently has no designs on India. Far to big and to many non-Muslims for its taste. However, if China keeps on antagonizing India and CSAS things may very well change.
 
Also, a question for Mac: has there been any desire for Britain to start divesting some of its island territories or having them reassigned to their major components of the Commonwealth? I'm particularly thinking of the Andamans, the Seychelles, the Pacific islands, and other similar to those.

Yes, there is most certainly a desire by British Liberals to divest itself of some of its island territories. Any thoughts as to whom might get what?
 
So the Libyan/Algerian Arabs and Black Africans in Cameroon are full citizens of their mother countries? Enlightened, though I'd assume there are liberation movements still active

Yes, they are full citizens although the national governments have found clever ways to dilute their political influence (e.g. under representing them in the legislature's upper house). There are certainly "liberation movements" and pushes for greater autonomy but most of the population is relatively content with the arrangement.
 
Here is my submission for leaders of New Zealand up to the year 2000.

History of New Zealand: 1980-2000

List of Prime Ministers of New Zealand
Sir William Fox (No Party) (1861-1862)
Alfred Domett (No Party) (1862-1863)
Sir Frederick Whitaker (No Party) (1863-1864)
Sir Edward Stafford (No Party) (1864-1869)
Sir William Fox (No Party) (1869-1872) *
Sir Francis Dillon Bell (No Party) (1872-1875)
Sir David Monro (No Party) (1875-1877)+
Sir Charles Clifford, 1st Baronet (No Party) (1877)
Sir William Fitzherbet (No Party (1877-1878)
Sir Charles Clifford, 1st Baronet (No Party) (1878-1886)
Sir George Maurice O'Rorke (No Party) (1886-1889)
Sir William Steward (Liberal) (1889-1892) **
Sir George Maurice O'Rorke (Liberal) (1892-1897)
Sir Robert Arthur Guiness (Liberal) (1897-1901)
Richard Seddon (Liberal) (1901-1906) +
Sir Robert Arthur Guiness (Liberal) (1906-1911) ***

Sir Frederick Lang (Reform) (1911-1920) ****
Sir William Newport (Reform) (1920)

Sir Rupert Scrivener (Liberal) (1920-1922)
Vincent Brimble (NZ Whig) (1922-1923) *****, V*
Nigel Plaskitt (Liberal) (1923-1926)
Malcom Terris (Reform) (1926-1934)
Nigel Plaskitt (Liberal) (1934-1937)
Malcom Terris (National) (1937-1940) V**
Terrance Dicks (Liberal) (1940-1950)
Richard Irvine Hurst (National) (1950-61) +
Lawrence Williams (National) (1961-1963) V***
John Robinson (National) (1963-1964)

Margaret Lewis (Liberal) (1964-1968) V****
Sir Nigel Hughes (Liberal) (1968- 1976) X

Sir Robert Irvine Hurst (National) (1976-1983) X*, X**
John Partridge (Liberal) (1983-1990) X***
Ronald Levin (Liberal) (1990-1993) X****, XV
Jacob Hewit (Liberal) (1993)

Audrey Bevin (Social Democrat) (1993-1995) XV*, XV**
Jacob Hewit (Liberal) (1995)
Jonathan Braxton (National) (1995-2000)
Michael Mateparae (National) (2000-) XV***


*Title officially changed from "Colonial Secretary" to "Premier"
** First Official Political Party, the Liberal Party, Founded in 1891
*** Title officially changed from "Premier" to "Prime Minister" after New Zealand Achieved the status of Dominion
**** The Second Official Political Party, the Reform Party, Founded in 1911
***** The Third Official Political Party, the New Zealand Whig Party, Founded in 1921
V* This is the first coalition government, NZ Whigs and Reform Party
V** The Reform and NZ Whigs combined to form the National Party
V*** Forced out of office by vote of no confidence
V**** First female Prime Minister
X Lost an election due to his opposition to New Zealand's involvement in the war in India
X* The son of former Prime Minister Richard Irvine Hurst
X** In 1980 Prime Minister Robert Irvine Hurst along with a number of other Commonwealth leaders are knighted
X*** Legislature Reform Act of 1984 passed
X**** First Jewish Prime Minister
XV Stepped down after scandal
XV* First Social-Democrat Prime Minister
XV** Removed by a vote of no confidence
XV*** First Ethnic Maori Prime Minister
+ Died in Office


The National Party was very popular after the Pacific War, with Prime Minister Robert Irvine Hurst being Knighted along with other PMs. However this popularity would fade fairly quick due to a post war recession. After the war the National Party was concerned about the state of government debt. In order to bring it back under control after the war the National Party made drastic cuts spending, both social and military. The fairly small economy of New Zealand had become dependent on government spending during the war. After the spending cuts occurred a recession was triggered. A large number of veterans became unemployed and the military was slimmed down the bare necessities to defend the country if attacked. By 1981 unemployment reached 12%, and the Nationals were heavily attacked by the press. PM Hurst hoped to ride out the recession and call for an election when the economy improved. However by the end of 1982 it had not improved, and upon the advice of his cabinet the PM called for an election in April of 1983.

The National Party retained a plurality of seats, but had lost its governing majority. PM Hurst and the leaders of the National Party tried to form a coalition with the Maoris and the Independents, plus any Liberal who would be willing to join. However Liberal Leader, John Partridge, managed to keep his party in line, preventing the Nationals from forming their own coalition government. Partridge formed a coalition government between the Liberals, Social Democrats, and the Maori parties, with himself being elected Prime Minister. The Liberal Party had campaigned on restarting a number of welfare and economic programs shut down by the Nationals. Their two biggest campaign promises were to enact legislature reform, and to begin the biggest infrastructure project in the nations history, an underwater tunnel across the Cook Strait, connecting the north and south islands together, allowing transport between the islands other than sea or air travel.

Legislature reform was enacted in 1984 with the Legislature Reform Act, or LRA. There had been frequent complaints among Kiwis that the Parliament was not representative of the people in its current form. The Legislature had been unicameral since 1950, when it was abolished by an act of Parliament under the government of Richard Irvine Hurst. The LRA would re-establish the senate. It would create 7 senatorial districts across the country, and each district would elect 5 senators, for a total of 35. And each senate district would have 1 seat reserved for the Maori. The LRA also expanded the number of seats in what would become the lower house, referred to as the Assembly, from 93 seats to 125. 5 of these new seats would be reserved for the Maori. The new legislature would come into effect after the next election, which the bill set for 1985.

The 1985 election would increase the numbers of every party, but the Liberals wold gain the most, winning 17 additional seats, and obtaining a plurality. PM Partridge formed another coalition government with the Social Democrats, obtaining 6 more seats than necessary to form a government. The Maori were excluded from this new government because the were no longer needed for a coalition. The Maori party tended to be fiscally liberal, in line with the Liberals and Social Democrats, but socially conservative, which went against both parties.

The Partridge government of 1985 to 1990 would see drastic expansion of government spending. The Social Democrats would push for the restoration of full Universal Health Care, which had been undone in the 1950s, and the introduction of Universal Higher Education. The Liberal-Social Democrat government would get full Universal Health Care restored for New Zealand, but Universal Higher Education was not achieved. In place of that they introduced a lottery scholarship system for lower income families. In this system students from lower income families in Secondary School can sign up to be in a scholarship lottery. Every year a number of these students are chosen to receive full ride scholarships to Universities in New Zealand. This made the Partridge government very popular. However in December, 1989 PM Partridge was diagnosed with Renkin's Disease. Instead of trying to hide it, he called for an election to be held in February 1990, in which he would not seek re-election to his seat. His chosen successor for leadership of the Liberal Party was his Finance Minister, Ronald Levin. This was somewhat controversial because Ronald Levin was Jewish, and numerous conspiracies about international Jewish Bankers plagued the ministry. However this did not seem to faze the New Zealand Public because the Liberal Party would again win a Plurality in 1990, and Ronald Levin would become the first Jewish Prime Minister.

The 1990s saw vast economic growth. At the time, many in New Zealand attributed the economic growth to the programs of the Partridge government. 1991 saw the beginning of the Cook Straight Tunnel Project, or CSTP, which created a large number of construction jobs, and was projected to be finished in 1997. The tech industry grew in New Zealand due to a large number of programmers who were educated in the 1980s, a fair number of whom were helped by the Scholarship Lottery. At first PM Levin was very popular, and his election was seen as a big step for progress. But in 1992 a scandal would erupt around PM Levin. He was connected to a number of money laundering schemes in Europe, where he had a bank account in Switzerland with millions of dollars that had never been taxed or accounted for in New Zealand. In 1993 Ronald Levin stepped down, and was replaced by the Party's deputy leader Jacob Hewit, who immediately called an election.

The election of 1993 saw the National Party win a Plurality of seats for the first time since 1983. The public image of the Liberal Party was tarnished, but they wanted to remain in power. So they agreed to form another coalition government with the Social Democrats and offered them the Prime Ministership, but only on the condition that this Prime Minister calls an election by 1996. The Social-Democrats agreed, and their party leader, Audrey Bevan, became the second female Prime Minister.

The first major action of the Bevan Ministry was to enact a long time goal of the Social Democrats, and implement Universal Higher Education. Their next big action was to nationalize transportation and energy industries. This was not popular with owners of these industries and there was an immediate outcry from the private sector. Many New Zealanders were upset that the Prime Minister was not only from a party that didn't posses a plurality, but wasn't even the second largest party. The national debt began to rise as more and more welfare programs were expanded. In January of 1995 numerous international lending institutions downgraded New Zealand's credit rating, which resulted in its interest rates on debt to nearly double. The economy had been growing in the early 90s, but by 1995 the economy had begun to slow down, but still growing. Despite increased tax revenue from increased economic growth the Social-Democrat lead government continued to spend beyond tax revenues. In the summer of 1995 a number of creditors gave the New Zealand government an ultimatum: either get your finances in order, or no more credit will be given. PM Bevan threatened reneg on the debt, and in private contemplated monetizing it. The Liberal Party left the governing coalition and called for a vote of no confidence, which removed Audrey Bevan from the Prime Ministership. Liberal Leader Jacob Hewit was elected again as PM and called another election.

The election brought the National Party back into the government for the first time in 12 years. National Party Leader, Jonathan Braxton, was elected as Prime Minister. He and the National Party campaigned on restoring the free market and "Fiscal Sanity" to New Zealand. They privatized the industries that had been nationalized under Audrey Bevan, and walked back other programs that had been expanded under the Liberal-Social Democrat coalition governments. They abolished Universal Higher Education, and reduced the number of winners from the Lower Income Scholarship Lottery. They began a gradual plan to privatize the health industry, hoping to have it completely privatized by 2005. One project that the Nationals kept from the Partridge Government was the Cook Straight Tunnel. After new assessments it was determined that it would not be finished until the year 2001. Despite the increased costs of doing so the Nationals kept the project. The late 90s was a period of calm recovery for the New Zealand Economy, and in the year 2000 the Nationals called an election. This election gave the nationals majority in the parliament, but they kept the Maori in the government along with a few independents.

The biggest development that came out of the 2000 election was Prime Minister Jonathan Braxton stepping down, choosing not the run again. He was the oldest member of the National Party, and was initially given the leadership of the party as an honorary thing. They than gave him the Prime Ministership because he was the least controversial. But he stepped down to retire from politics, and his chosen successor was Michael Mateparae, a 40 year old, ethnic Maori, who was elected outside of the reserved Maori seats. He became the first Maori Prime Minister.


1980 Election
National: 61
Liberal: 17
Social Democrats: 8
Maori: 5
Independent: 2
Governing Party: National

1983 Election
National: 38
Liberal: 32
Social Democrats: 15
Maori: 5
Independent: 3
Governing Coalition: (
Liberal-Social Democrat-Maori)

1985 Election

Assembly
Liberal: 49
National: 40
Social Democrats: 20
Maori: 10

Independent: 6

Senate

Liberal: 10
National: 10
Social Democrats: 7

Maori: 7
Independent: 1

Governing Coalition: (Liberal-Social Democrat)

1990 Election
Assembly

Liberal: 51
National: 40
Social Democrats: 21
Maori: 10
Independent: 3

Senate
Liberal: 11
National: 9
Social Democrats: 8
Maori: 7


Governing Coalition: (Liberal-Social Democrat)

1993 Election

Assembly
National: 45
Liberal: 42

Social Democrats: 28
Maori: 10
Independent: 3

Senate
National: 12
Liberal: 8
Social Democrats: 8
Maori: 7

Governing Coalition: (Social Democrat-Liberal)

1995 Election
Assembly

National: 55
Liberal: 40
Social Democrats: 14

Maori: 10
Independent: 6

Senate

National: 16
Liberal: 10
Maori: 7
Social Democrats: 2

Governing Coalition: (National-Maori-Independent)

2000 Election
Assembly

National: 65
Liberal: 40
Maori: 10
Social Democrats: 7
Independent: 3


Senate
National: 18
Liberal: 9
Maori: 7
Social Democrats: 1

Governing Coalition: (National-Maori-Independent)


 
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Here is my submission for leaders of New Zealand up to the year 2000.




Amazing! Thanks so much. The only thing I see needing change is that Partridge's HIV should be called Renkin's Disease the TL's term for HIV/AIDS. Do that and lets consider it canon. Do you think Kurlikism or Ecoism would be a political force in New Zealand, or are they represented by those independents? I will be sure to post something about the opening of the Cook Straight Tunnel when we get to 2001. Please continue to post great stuff like this. Cheers!
 
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Deadliest Wars of the 20th Century
Twelve Deadliest Wars of the 20th Century


Name (Duration) Low Casualty Estimate - High Casualty Estimate

Asia-Pacific War
(1976-1980) 32,000,000 – 35,000,000

Great War (1907-1910) 13,000,000 – 15,000,000

Chinese Civil War (1903-1921) 10,000,000 – 16,000,000

War for Indian Independence (1949-1958) 7,000,000 – 12,000,000

Indo-Bengali War (1974-1975) 3,100,000 – 4,500,000

Laotian War (1968-1972) 2,900,000 – 4,350,000

Ottoman Civil War (1937-1943) 2,450,000 – 3,860,000

Second Sino-Japanese War (1953-1954) 1,040,000 – 3,120,000

Spanish Civil War (1983-1986) 900,000 - 1,050,000

South American War (1948-1949) 314,000 – 336,000

Congolese War (1976-1984) 200,000 – 330,000

War for Indonesian Independence ( 1962-1969) 120,000 - 145,000
 
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Amazing! Thanks so much. The only thing I see needing change is that Partridge's HIV should be called Renkin's Disease the TL's term for HIV/AIDS. Do that and lets consider it canon. Do you think Kurlikism or Ecoism would be a political force in New Zealand, or are they represented by those independents? I will be sure to post something about the opening of the Cook Straight Tunnel when we get to 2001. Please continue to post great stuff like this. Cheers!

HIV has been changed to Renkin's Disease.

There aren't any New Zealand Politicians running on Ecoism or Kurlikism, however you will find elements of both in the Liberal and Social-Democratic Parties.
 
The Asian Pacific War, as expected, is much bloodier than the Great War. I am surprised at the intensity of the Spanish Civil War and the Ottoman Civil War though, those are some fairly appalling casualty lists.
 
Okay, who else was under the impression that the Asia-Pacific War was a lot smaller?

I am quiet surprised that Indo-Bengali War claimed so many lives.



Not big surprise. War lasted four years and there was many war zones.

Nice to see so few casualties compared to OTL.

The Asian Pacific War, as expected, is much bloodier than the Great War. I am surprised at the intensity of the Spanish Civil War and the Ottoman Civil War though, those are some fairly appalling casualty lists.

Thanks for the feedback guys, keep in mind that these casualty numbers include civilians and famine related deaths.
 
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