indeed, we'll see. For the Turks, well Abdulmejid I was even more of a reformer than his father, so you can count it out.....
The Revenge of the Crown : An Alternate 1812 and Beyond.
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Rivercat893
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I don't really how the United States/American Union can even survive after losing so much territory, civil war, and an economic crisis to boot as I noted. It's more likely to collapse and die than even survive a period called the Destitute Era.
if every country with a dictatorial past (which is almost always caused by economic crisis) collapsed, then half of the world's countries today would not exist.
Rivercat893
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Well, I'm talking about the current circumstances of this country. The other dictatorships were in a slightly better position than the American Union and had some effective dictators compared to Calhoun.
Peru, Ecuador, Columbia, Venezuela, Central America, Nepal, Bhutan, Persia all have had more strenuous histories than America ittl. They have remained together even if they lost territory.
Aesthetically I like the flag, but what's the symbolism behind the colors? It doesn't seem very....French-y.
It's basically a combination of what was ideally intended for the U.S. South had they actually cared with the platform of slavery as practiced in IOTL Imperial Brazil with the law of free womb (Louisiana's equivalent to the Rio Branco Law that IOTL Brazil passed in 1871), while I'm not entirely sure when Louisiana will declare for abolition, it seems like it may end up happening earlier than the U.S. did IOTL.
Well I mean, if it has to be a stripes thing, then yeah, I think I would prefer that over classic Kaiserreich's AUS flag...before it became what it is now.
I mean, what I would prefer, and what would be realistic is two different planes of existence truth be told. I mean, a Northern state, wither a reformed FSA or something else is not off the table any time in the forseeable future, and that may end up being the only other balkanization I could see in a realistic sense, but I wouldn't mind a scenario ala the Articles of Confederation failing that leads to the 13 colonies essentially becoming 13 different countries.
They would have to do some serious reforms and eschew much of their traditions, and more importantly, will need to stick so they can grow out the way they would want.
^ This, Mahmud actually wanted to centralize the entirety of his domains into the empire, and I feel a part of it was inspired by Tanzimat, but another was inspired in part because of France's invasion and conquest of Algeria, which was an Ottoman province in-name only. It may have played a part behind Mahmud ultimately deposing the Karamanlis in 1835 and returning Tripolitania to a full Ottoman Eyalet, as well as the deposition of both the Hasanid Mamluks in Iraq and the Jalilids of Mosul/Iraqi Kurdistan in the same time period, not to mention the tensions played in part between the Ottomans and the Aghaids (the Muhammad Ali Dynasty) throughout the 1830s and into the 1840s.
Happy to see that Louisiana and the House of Orléans will survive to modern day and doing quite good . Just hopped that their population would reach 20 million
Rivercat893
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Their flag should resemble the Bourbons with a white and blue color scheme since they are a monarchy ruled by the House of Orleans.
Below are our musings on it in the Request Thread:
I can't believe that I would actually prefer the Electoral Collage be retained ITTL. That just goes to show how screwed the US is.
Yay for Mishigama. Go democratic Native American state, go!
Yay for Louisiana. That's one way to have a House of Peers.
Now there is a "University of Borealia". That suggests that there are multiple states created from BNA.
I particularly like @The Professor's first Louisiana flag.
Yay for Mishigama. Go democratic Native American state, go!
Yay for Louisiana. That's one way to have a House of Peers.
Now there is a "University of Borealia". That suggests that there are multiple states created from BNA.
I particularly like @The Professor's first Louisiana flag.