No mention of the West Africa Squadron in abolishing the Slave Trade, just privateers?
The Revenge of the Crown : An Alternate 1812 and Beyond.
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A Russo-Louisianan friendship. I did not expect that.
Go Mexico! It looks like the (near-)future is bright there.
Go Mexico! It looks like the (near-)future is bright there.
Well Nicky I and Louis-Philippe were friends prior to the latter's accession to the French throne IOTL, I could kinda see it being the case. Besides, Louisiana needs the immigration pull, probably just as much so as Mexico does, and in the long term if they still wish to maintain its claims to the Louisiana Purchase lands still in the hands of a very authoritarian United States. It's kind of a shame though that even ITTL, the much popular Ferdinand Philippe still ends up not getting the throne...kinda makes me wonder...did he stay behind in France? Does he still end up quitting this world after a broken skull session? What do?
I also find it fascinating that the former Duke of Nemours (now Duke de Saint-Louis de la Louisiane) married a Russian Grand Duchess...don't get me wrong, I know that it isn't exactly unheard of, after all Maria Nikolaevna married Maximilian de Beauharnais IOTL and he was a Catholic all his life as far as I know, I really don't know. But it's still fascinating all the same.
On the subject of New England, I dunno what irks me more, the fact that Zebulon is still a prominent name in modern day New England TTL, or the fact that JQA names his first son after himself with each generation...
Meanwhile Christian Democracy becomes a thing 50 years earlier than OTL and it doesn't involve the three main starters of Christian Democracy (Roman Catholicism, Calvinism, and Pentecostalism respectively), this will be an interesting scenario, if only because of how you can make Christian Democracy as a distinct ideology compared to how it is IOTL. Especially since I don't think the ideology exists under Methodist lines I believe.
On Mexico, it is becoming what people had, at least for the first half of the 19th century seriously considered, a regional power that is on the outside looking into becoming a potential great power in its own right. This time, Mexico now no longer has to worry about a United States that has now turned into an Agrarianist Dictatorship that is on the cusp of collapse. However with that being said, I'm kinda one to hope that Napoleon II still lives longer than OTL and even sires children of his own to continue the main Napoleonic branch, while keeping the Mexican branch (and likely by extension, the Hollander (re: Napoleon III) and Westphalian branches) separate.
On Japan, I guess it's now a Boshin War of a sort, except not really? I dunno...
It seem like the Tokugawa are gonna keep some power in this timeline and TTL japan are having their own version of the Bonshin war ?
Know little about Christian political party so can’t speak about the change or consequence .
And it seem like Mexico are doing good for themselves it’s nice if people start to speak of Mexican professionalism it would mean that their army would prove itself now i’m curious against who it will be . Russo Louisianan relation weren’t something I was expecting but it’s a welcome suprise all of that is very interesting i’m gonna say Louisiana with Mishigami are probably the nation that interest me the most in North America . And multiple American Louisianan conflicts are confirmed i’m gonna support Louisiana in these . I’m curious on how Russian architecture will influence the Louisianan one and if we are gonna have a Russian Louisianan community
It probably won't, but I hope it lasts long enough to see the ultimate outcome of all their choices, unlike stupid Gilead
Lord landsdowne would not be hearing anything in the House of Commons. He would not be a Member
I'm assuming said Lord Landsdowne would be this one:
Henry Petty-Fitzmaurice, 3rd Marquess of Lansdowne - Wikipedia
He became Marquess Lansdowne on the death of his father, John Henry Petty, in 1809, thus acceding to the House of Lords.
so no Mormons okay. Does joseph still get into treasure hunting?
Oh yeah, I agree with you. I'm completely spitballing there as there's no way to tell what will happen in the next ~200 years!
It was just a thought exercise given the question was asked!
Northstar
Ahh man, no Mormons? There's always interesting for a divided North America TL; and interesting in their own right in my opinion.
Still an interesting direction for New England politics. And that infobox indicates they won't be taking anymore American territory. I wonder how the New English view the American Revolution and their time as part of the USA?
How is the Louisiana Kingdom organized internally? Are they still using the old state system to some degree? What role does this new nobility play? What is the status of slavery in the kingdom?
Still an interesting direction for New England politics. And that infobox indicates they won't be taking anymore American territory. I wonder how the New English view the American Revolution and their time as part of the USA?
How is the Louisiana Kingdom organized internally? Are they still using the old state system to some degree? What role does this new nobility play? What is the status of slavery in the kingdom?
True. but at the same time, I feel like it's a bit cliche, and the PoD does allow the possibility that the Mormon faith doesn't get created ITTL.
Rivercat893
Banned
Probably the latter. Louisiana, Mexico, and Canada will receive a huge influx of European Catholic immigrants unlike TTL's United States.
I highly doubt all the OTL immigrants will go elsewhere, granted the anti-Catholic anti-Anglo sentiments will cut down on a lot of it, but other than general xenophobia I don't think there's anything against, say, German Protestant migrants.
He is allowed to speak in commons, lords are allowed to speak in commons, but not vote.
I LOVE this timeline. Independent New England AND Louisiana? Truly the best world to live in.
Derek Pullem
Donor
American slavery economy was pretty much self sufficient at this point - while slave imports were not unknown, unlike the Caribbean plantations the conditions were just liveable enough for their to be a natural growth in the slave population.
Privateers operated in our time line too but the High risk of disease from operating in the tropics and in unsanitary conditions meant the West African Squadron of the the RN Di most of the heavy lifting.