The Fire Never Dies: Labor's Star Ascendant

Aside from the predictable horrific consequences of a fascist government coming to power by it's very nature, I assume Falangist Britain is going to be an absolute nightmare for it's colonies, with it having to squeeze every last drop from them to deal with the complete lack of trade from the ASU.

If Ireland gets re-invaded or never successfully breaks off in the first place it's probably in for the worst famine since the 1840s when the last legs of the war begin and the isolated Britain decides to do the same to them.
 
I wonder if a Falangist Britain means TTL's WW2 might have a red-tinted Indian Revolution in its later stages.

Because I can't imagine a Falangist Britain being anything less than a living nightmare for India.
 
I think it would be ironic if Italy is the only European country to go communist. Plus Red Italy's situation would be deeply complicated given how isolated it would be, with the ASU's ability to support it being extremely limited at best.
 
I think it would be ironic if Italy is the only European country to go communist. Plus Red Italy's situation would be deeply complicated given how isolated it would be, with the ASU's ability to support it being extremely limited at best.
Italy will not be going socialist in the short term. It is likely to have one of the stronger socialist movements in Europe, and one heavily influenced by the ASU. Benito Mussolini is a prominent figure in the Italian IWW. However, I do have plans for one other European country to adopt socialism.

Incidentally, "communist" is generally a derogatory term in American politics ITTL, but for vastly different reasons. It generally means "unreasonable idealist", typically referring to utopian concepts that are seen as impractical or would require a powerful authoritarian state to enforce them.
 
Aside from the predictable horrific consequences of a fascist government coming to power by it's very nature, I assume Falangist Britain is going to be an absolute nightmare for it's colonies, with it having to squeeze every last drop from them to deal with the complete lack of trade from the ASU.
In the short term, there will be trade with America. There's actually one bit of good news for some of Britain's colonies: with the war having exposed Britain's food insecurity, a campaign is already underway to build up British colonies - particularly western and southern Africa - as a food source. Serious money is being spent on modernizing African agriculture and shifting production from cash crops to food crops. Of course, this will often take the form of land seizures and destruction of traditional practices, but Africa will be somewhat less vulnerable to famine ITTL.
 
The best way I could come up with to avoid a government-in-exile was to have more than one.
The funny scenario I hope is the left pieces of the White government fight each other without reason for the title of being "USA'S government in exile" which is worthless by now.
Italy will not be going socialist in the short term. It is likely to have one of the stronger socialist movements in Europe, and one heavily influenced by the ASU. Benito Mussolini is a prominent figure in the Italian IWW. However, I do have plans for one other European country to adopt socialism.
As Italian myself, I think this is a good development, though I doubt King Vittorio Emanuele III will accept it. Thus, he could take the chance to abdicate (he never wanted to be King in the first place, and he asked his father before he was assassinated) and leave the Italian Throne to one of his more-adapt sons...
 
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Aside from the predictable horrific consequences of a fascist government coming to power by it's very nature, I assume Falangist Britain is going to be an absolute nightmare for it's colonies, with it having to squeeze every last drop from them to deal with the complete lack of trade from the ASU.
Yeah, best case scenario to dodge a bloodbath of one sort or another is an Anti-Falangist Imperial Government In Exile making real concessions vis-a-vis Responsible Government and Homegrown Civil Service in return for support and that is pretty improbable.

The funny scenario I hope is the left pieces of the White government fight each other without reason for the title of being "USA'S government in exile" which is worthless by now.
I predict at least a couple of fist-fights a year between 'Marshallists/Republicans' and 'Wilsonists/Democrats' (lovingly covered in the ASU press), and less entertainingly an assassination or shootout.
 
Yeah, best case scenario to dodge a bloodbath of one sort or another is an Anti-Falangist Imperial Government In Exile making real concessions vis-a-vis Responsible Government and Homegrown Civil Service in return for support and that is pretty improbable.
And on that note, I am interested what would happen to the White Dominions with the rise of Falangism and all that.
 
And on that note, I am interested what would happen to the White Dominions with the rise of Falangism and all that.
The situation in South Africa might become explosive earlier, and not only there. And, I kind off hope this will screw up the English plans to turn Muslims and Hindu against each other (with today's consequences of India and Pakistan IOTL)
 
And on that note, I am interested what would happen to the White Dominions with the rise of Falangism and all that.
A lot of variables among the individual areas, the biggest one is how frightened of Socialism the local governments/power-brokers are (which in turn are influenced both by what is going on in the ASU and the sorts/numbers of White Exiles bending their ears.

The situation in South Africa might become explosive earlier, and not only there.
The second biggest variable is if various Settler groups think the new faces in London are going to Keep The Natives In Their Place or Push Them Too Far Sparking Revolt (ASU Propagandizing would increase concerns on both fronts).

And, I kind off hope this will screw up the English plans to turn Muslims and Hindu against each other (with today's consequences of India and Pakistan IOTL)
I am loath to wholly absolve homegrown sectarians of responsibility for that mess, but Partition was not baked in at this point and with luck can be dodged.
 
101. The 1919 Constitutional Convention (Part 1)
…1. All legislative powers established by this Constitution shall be vested in a Workers’ Congress of the American Socialist Union, which shall consist of a House of People’s Representatives and a Chamber of Labor Delegates…

…2. The House of People’s Representatives shall be composed of members elected every second year for two-year terms by the people of the Commonwealths. People’s Representatives shall be elected by popular vote of their respective districts, which shall be apportioned by population…

…3. The Chamber of Labor Delegates shall be composed of members elected every year for three-year terms by the members of the Labor Unions. Labor Delegates shall be elected by popular vote of their unions, which shall be apportioned by membership…

- From Article I of the ASU Constitution

…The Second Constitutional Convention was a messy affair, starting with the elections for delegates. Debs and the GDC wanted to move quickly on getting a new constitution in place, but they also wanted to rely on the (loose) structure provided by Article V of the old constitution. This required that two-thirds of state legislatures (thirty-two in total) call for a constitutional convention. It was also vital that every state be able to elect delegates to that convention. The problem was that most of the states had spent much of the war partially or entirely under White control…

…There was no clean solution to the problem. They would simply have to do what they could. In some states – those with socialist-aligned legislatures that had remained largely in control of their states – they began passing legislation calling for a convention as soon as possible. Colorado, Idaho, Minnesota, Montana, Nevada, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Washington, West Virginia, and Wisconsin all passed their legislation in May 1917. Illinois and New York followed in June once Springfield and Albany were recaptured and their legislatures reconstituted. But that only brought the number to twelve. Another twenty states would be needed…

…In states that had not been under Red control from the beginning, the standard practice was to transition to an appointed civilian government once the state was largely under Red control. This government (usually headed by a local SLP politician) would oversee special elections to restore the legislature, which could then pass legislation calling for a convention. The first to do so was New Jersey in August of 1917, with Michigan and Wyoming following later that month. September saw the Dakotas, Ohio, and New Mexico pass legislation, bringing the total to nineteen. Connecticut, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, and Vermont all passed their legislation in November. Arizona, Maine, and Oregon followed in December. Nebraska and Iowa joined the call in January. After that, the total remained static for months. Kansas finally got organized in April, while Missouri came in May…

…The clincher was, of all places, California. After the Shasta Agreement in March 1918, enough SLP delegates returned to Sacremento to provide Governor Johnson with a quorum. However, the Republicans remained dominant and many were opposed to a convention on principle. Johnson, on the other hand, was more concerned by the possibility of being excluded from that convention. After considerable wrangling, on June 17, 1918, the State of California became the thirty-second state to call for a constitutional convention. Some of the push may have been humiliation, given that while they had been wrangling, the territories of Alaska and Puerto Rico had also called for a convention…

…The language of the bills passed was generally similar. All agreed that the convention should only occur once all hostilities had ceased and it became possible for every state to elect delegates. The task of organizing the convention would be left to the GDC. The major difference was the purported agenda. Many states were explicitly calling for a new constitution, but some states – mostly those that had had relatively little socialist presence in local politics before the war – simply called for “major revisions”. California was the most conservative, agreeing only that there was “an obvious requirement for amendments”. Governor Johnson quickly emerged as head of the “Constitutionalist” faction which wanted to preserve the basic structure of the US government…

…Even with a convention now a certainty, that still required electing delegates. Some were adamant that an election for constitutional delegates could only occur under the auspices of a duly elected state government, but many states were still under appointed civilian rule. Organizing a civilian government was proving particularly difficult in war-torn states like Kentucky, Maryland, and Utah. But the GDC’s patience was not unlimited. On April 8, 1919, they announced that all appointed governors would immediately organize elections for convention delegates no later than May 1. The resulting elections were somewhat controversial, but ultimately proved to be fair. Most states elected SLP-dominated slates. Only three states were dominated by Constitutionalists, but as those three were California, Delaware, and Texas, it was clear that the non-socialists would have a significant voice…

…The convention would also not be limited to the states. Alaska and Puerto Rico were very adamant that they be included. Hawaii also voted to send delegates, although it was clear that they were still considering secession. To the surprise of some, the Navajo Nation (which had not participated in the elections in Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico, or Utah) opted to participate. The Navajo were the only Native American tribe to attend under their own banner, although several other states had elected some Native delegates. Finally, the District of Columbia was allowed to send a delegation…

…That left the matter of where to hold the convention. Many in the GDC wanted Chicago or New York, but the two factions were split. Washington itself was out on the grounds that while the Capitol itself was sufficiently intact to hold a convention, the city as a whole was in ruins. Rather unexpectedly, after James H. Maurer[1] made an appeal in favor of Philadelphia, citing its role in the 1787 constitutional convention, most of the New York faction switched their support to Philadelphia…

…On July 4, 1919, the delegates flowed into the Exposition Auditorium[2] in Philadelphia. After they were all seated, Eugene Debs struck his gavel on the podium, officially bringing the 1919 Constitutional Convention to order…

- From A New Union: A Political History of the American Socialist Union by Hillary Rodham

[1] A prominent Pennsylvanian socialist both IOTL and ITTL.

[2] The site of the 1900 Republican National Convention. It was located south of the University of Pennsylvania.
 
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Something I am wondering here is if immediate recall is going to be implemented to help ensure that if politicians break with their duties the people they are beholden to will be able to recall them immediately.

Though it does look like the terms are pretty short in general so that does help mitigate the need for immediate recall for the short-medium term I think.
 
Something I am wondering here is if immediate recall is going to be implemented to help ensure that if politicians break with their duties the people they are beholden to will be able to recall them immediately.

Though it does look like the terms are pretty short in general so that does help mitigate the need for immediate recall for the short-medium term I think.
Immediate recall is going in.
 
…2. The House of People’s Representatives shall be composed of members elected every second year for two-year terms by the people of the Commonwealths. People’s Representatives shall be elected by popular vote of their respective districts, which shall be apportioned by population…
So does this mean that the new constitution will use first-past-the-post in its elections? While the existence of a house of representatives as a concession to the moderates and/or non-socialists makes sense, it seems weird that the socialists would accept FPTP. Proportional representation was definitely in the American consciousness at the time.
 
So does this mean that the new constitution will use first-past-the-post in its elections? While the existence of a house of representatives as a concession to the moderates and/or non-socialists makes sense, it seems weird that the socialists would accept FPTP. Proportional representation was definitely in the American consciousness at the time.
Well according to teases dropped by the author, the ASU is going to be dominated by a single party similarly to the LDP in Japan for a significant period of time so on a practical level competition between parties takes a backseat to intra party maneuvers.
 
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