Proposals and War Aims That Didn't Happen Map Thread
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A 1944 map of the proposed Lander for Germany made by the OSS (precursor to the CIA) from the Truman Library:
Map of the Major Administrative Divisions of Greater Germany | Harry S. Truman
A revised map titled "Greater Germany: Major Administrative Divisions, July 1, 1944." The map shows the boundary lines of Greater Germany, pre-war 1937 international boundaries, zones of occupation, land, provincial, regional, and district boundaries, and the Oder-Neisse Line. Divisions of...www.trumanlibrary.gov
Clipped version showing only the proposed lander (the original included administrative divisions of Greater Germany in 1944):
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As can be seen it is rather similar to what pertains in OTL except for differences mainly in the west with a separate Westphalia and Rhine Province, a larger Hesse and a larger Baden-Wurttemberg (or Wurttemberg-Baden in this proposal). In the east, there are differences in the border of Saxony and OTL's Saxony-Anhalt is called Middle Germany
Having just rediscovered my copy of that Life Magazine, Welles’s border redrawing proposal extended beyond Germany to include Poland, and even a new world order. The structure of which wasn’t what the UN became, so it’s interesting to see. Here’s Poland, if it hasn’t already been posted. I could also link to a PDF of the whole article or just OCR it if people are interested.
"East Prussian may migrate to Germany, leaving new Polish state without significant minorities"Having just rediscovered my copy of that Life Magazine, Welles’s border redrawing proposal extended beyond Germany to include Poland, and even a new world order. The structure of which wasn’t what the UN became, so it’s interesting to see. Here’s Poland, if it hasn’t already been posted. I could also link to a PDF of the whole article or just OCR it if people are interested.
Talk about wishful thinking.
It's also bizarre that the fact that Poles were only a plurality in the Kresy is treated as a reason to detach it from Poland, while the fact that Germans were a majority in East Prussia is no obstacle at all. But then again, at this point I'm just complaining about the injustice of the OTL settlement.
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I wonder how they decided to calculate numbers for Jews. It also appears that ‘others’ has rather strongly increased.Having just rediscovered my copy of that Life Magazine, Welles’s border redrawing proposal extended beyond Germany to include Poland, and even a new world order. The structure of which wasn’t what the UN became, so it’s interesting to see. Here’s Poland, if it hasn’t already been posted. I could also link to a PDF of the whole article or just OCR it if people are interested.
Worlda of the Constantinople Conference (1876) and the proposed Vilayet of Albania (1877-1912)
I was just thinking about doing a patch for that Albania vilayet. Oh well.
map 2 would be infinitely useful to have in the standard formats we use. cant count the amount of times ive tried to draw 1900ish polish galicia and so on for various projects
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It's still before Christmas in the western hemisphere
If it's before Jan 7 in the Gregorian calendar, it's before Christmas
A few proposals from the Expansionist Party of the United States, detailing possible states of the US in both Canada and the UK.
I'll do the "detailed" Canada map eventually.